if msia were to use foreign players then our local player will not have the chance to play n develop and m'sia will fall further behind.
Should Malaysia National Team use foreign player, pls vote here
Should Malaysia National Team use foreign player, pls vote here
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Jan 11 2007, 02:14 AM
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if msia were to use foreign players then our local player will not have the chance to play n develop and m'sia will fall further behind.
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Jan 11 2007, 02:28 AM
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relying on foreign talent would only bring da game into jeopardy...sure we might get into da world cup, but would we as malaysians feel proud about it? if nicole david could do it, y not da others?
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Jan 11 2007, 02:38 AM
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QUOTE i agree with you. In malaysia parents wants their kids to perform in academic rather than sports. Send them to school, then later evening got tuition after school send them to college bla bla bla... so the time for them to play football is limited and because tired of studies they're lazy to play football already. Parents vision see that football is not promising future in Malaysia that's why they didnt prefer it. If we can change their mindset I'm sure our football can be improve. I'll assume that you're mostly talking about chinese parents. I've heard from some people, if you're a chinese, no matter how good you are you will find it very difficult to get into the state teams, much less the national team. Its stuff like that that's killing football around here - politics and connections are more important than real footballing skills. |
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Jan 11 2007, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(Tachikoma @ Jan 11 2007, 03:38 AM) I'll assume that you're mostly talking about chinese parents. I've heard from some people, if you're a chinese, no matter how good you are you will find it very difficult to get into the state teams, much less the national team. Its stuff like that that's killing football around here - politics and connections are more important than real footballing skills. that 1 i didnt agree..coz 4 me..the reason y so little chinese playing football is because they not attract to play it..chinese as far as i know and see, love to play other sports such as basketball,badminton ,squash..even in school,we can see that these situation are really happen,if malay they rather to play football,hockey,takraw, for indian,football,hockey,100meter,200 meter, and other that fall in that category(acara balapan),for chinese like the thing i stated above..chinese i realize they start to fall in love with football when the futsal was introduced..but still in small majority |
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Jan 11 2007, 04:11 PM
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we will hav to chance to see whether foriegn do make the diff or not during the up coming AFF cup. i will use our down south neighbour as the guide.
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Jan 11 2007, 04:31 PM
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yup..we have to wait and c our squad perform for the AFF, hope it improved.i hope malaysian will earn some point,not going home empty handed..
by the way this is the latest ranking of our traditional enemy 137 -Thailand 153 -Indonesia 111 -Singapore pretty shocking,singapore is very well among south east asia ranking.. This post has been edited by wanz_delpiero: Jan 11 2007, 04:32 PM |
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Jan 11 2007, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(wanz_delpiero @ Jan 11 2007, 04:31 PM) yup..we have to wait and c our squad perform for the AFF, hope it improved.i hope malaysian will earn some point,not going home empty handed.. where malaysia stand???by the way this is the latest ranking of our traditional enemy 137 -Thailand 153 -Indonesia 111 -Singapore pretty shocking,singapore is very well among south east asia ranking.. |
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Jan 11 2007, 04:44 PM
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malaysia is on 152..
for other 171 -Philippines 172 -Vietnam 174 -Cambodia 175 -Brunei Darussalam 154 -Myanmar 151 -Laos This post has been edited by wanz_delpiero: Jan 11 2007, 04:48 PM |
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Jan 11 2007, 06:58 PM
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Jan 11 2007, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(Tachikoma @ Jan 11 2007, 02:38 AM) I'll assume that you're mostly talking about chinese parents. I've heard from some people, if you're a chinese, no matter how good you are you will find it very difficult to get into the state teams, much less the national team. Its stuff like that that's killing football around here - politics and connections are more important than real footballing skills. Aren't 99% of football acemdemies run by Malays? |
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Jan 11 2007, 08:47 PM
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i voted for no foreign players. not fun anymore watching non malaysian playing or even winning for us. sure u win, but can u really gloat. watching spore makes me laugh. how can u gloat when all u did was wave money to sum players who can't make it into their own country team n win. i wud feel embarrassed. dunno bout the others. well i guess i u're a glory hunter, then u wudnt mind i am against 'NATURALISED' foreign players who dun have anything to do with the country. but i dun mind players who have connection with this country. like mum/dad from msia or born in msia (shaun maloney case). at least, there is a bit of msian blood in them QUOTE(zickey @ Jan 10 2007, 10:06 AM) i agree with you. In malaysia parents wants their kids to perform in academic rather than sports. Send them to school, then later evening got tuition after school send them to college bla bla bla... so the time for them to play football is limited and because tired of studies they're lazy to play football already. Parents vision see that football is not promising future in Malaysia that's why they didnt prefer it. If we can change their mindset I'm sure our football can be improve. totally agree with u dude. i tell u, if u go overseas and play with msian students studying there (UK/US/AUSIE), you will definitely find lots of talented youngsters whom no doubt be able to get into the youth team vr easily. they are not prepared to become professional in Msia bcoz the system in Malaysia does not look after them well after their retirement. they wudnt wanna take that risk unless the system is changed in MalaysiaQUOTE(Tachikoma @ Jan 11 2007, 02:38 AM) I'll assume that you're mostly talking about chinese parents. I've heard from some people, if you're a chinese, no matter how good you are you will find it very difficult to get into the state teams, much less the national team. Its stuff like that that's killing football around here - politics and connections are more important than real footballing skills. are there proof to this statement? i am anxious to know. as far as i know, players who are good n willing to give their full commitment wud b choosen. we are not in the state of having the luxury of choosing who we want to develop. dun tell me jz bcoz he failed 1 trial n then he start this rumor. that is jz crap. i have a friend who have been attending numerous trials here n there n didnt get picked. he got his break 1 yr when coach irfan bakti choose him to play with Telekom Malacca. n he gets his reward ever since. been an important player to the team up til now. |
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Jan 11 2007, 08:56 PM
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If our team coach by SAF, JM, AW and RB at the same time also cannot beat the Thai
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Jan 11 2007, 09:03 PM
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FIFA started sliding down a slippery hill the moment they allowed Brazilians to play for Japan.
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Jan 11 2007, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(Tachikoma @ Jan 11 2007, 02:38 AM) I'll assume that you're mostly talking about chinese parents. I've heard from some people, if you're a chinese, no matter how good you are you will find it very difficult to get into the state teams, much less the national team. Its stuff like that that's killing football around here - politics and connections are more important than real footballing skills. i do agree with u. my cousin attended a try-out. he was NOT even noticed by the ppl there as they wanted to try the Malays out instead of the chinese players. and when he got on, he got off after 5 minutes....how do u judge a player in 5 minutes? we walked off without asking la...utter hopelessness..hope some chinese trainees could tell their experiences as well |
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Jan 11 2007, 09:23 PM
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I don't know if I'm gonna get knocked by u guys but I say no to foreign players because it is about national pride. I'd rather see our Indian, Malay and Chinese brothers, born Malaysian, huffed and puffed in a football match rather than seeing some Johnny Foreigners who do not have Malaysia at heart having a kickabout.
We were feared back in the 60's, 70's and the early 80's to a certain extent. All that with local born players. So what's changed? Answers on a postcard...to FAM of course. |
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Jan 11 2007, 10:03 PM
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i wont watch malaysia play unless they win if i am being honest cuz otherwise, i rather NOT watch. no offence but once we reach a level where we can win on our own, stop foreign imports..otherwise pay ronaldo a billion ringgit to play for us for a start
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Jan 11 2007, 10:33 PM
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i think we should bang the teachers?
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Jan 12 2007, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 11 2007, 10:12 PM) show me a malay footballer who is rich by playing "top" level football in malaysia? so who is the security guard? cant? they ended up being security guards... <-- wakakaka, while i laugh from above sitting in my own accountant office so please stop the race usage here.... there is quite a number of chinese playing football too... the main reason why they could hardly play for state or national team is because of politics. All started in school. All major sports is majority dominated by other except malays. So the teachers reserve football as a game for them only. So what do you think ? on the 2nd issue, it might be present. but it depends on ur location. my school at the centre of kl, team dominated by malays but got a chinese as a captain. we din mind at all. as long as there was cooperation+togetherness, dun think problems cud arise. i think the teachers who wud not have a look at chinese players are not exposed to lots of good chinese players. fortunately for me, i've known quite handful of them n are happy to play with them. heck, if they're gud enuff, i'd b glad if they'd want to join my team. even my team in ausie atm have lots of chinese playing alongside me. p/s: dun think scouts are biased towards malays onli. seen lots of indian players around as well. |
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Jan 12 2007, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(Haunkiem @ Jan 11 2007, 02:00 AM) You see that 's why Chinese parents are becoming dumb unlike yesteryear when they were smart . mind ur word idiot...u are giving stupid+retards+racist remarks...What most Chinese want is glamour and money , well what the fauck ? what do they think top level football is ?? You can make ore $ for less time and stress than a Faucking accountant , might as well push your small farts that way . Even if you end up in Korea , China , or better yet HK , the $ is not bad at all and oppurtunities plenty . But nooo , still too dumb to notice what is going on . sports in malaysia is not bright because of the stupid management...except badminton, hockey and squash... don't blame the chinese parents!!! sports is not a guanrantee career in malaysia except the 3 i mention, also because we consider 'good' at international level...and thus got government massive supports... |
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Jan 12 2007, 09:42 AM
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hey everybodi..cool down a lil bit ya...i create this thread for all of us to discuss wether we need the foreign or not..not to bang each other..if u want to talk about racist go to the RWI la..hope this thread clean with racial issues...
we can still discuss about each races contiribution on football,but not to blame other.. This post has been edited by wanz_delpiero: Jan 12 2007, 09:49 AM |
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