Should Malaysia National Team use foreign player, pls vote here
Should Malaysia National Team use foreign player, pls vote here
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Jan 9 2007, 11:41 AM, updated 19y ago
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since our reputation in South East Asia so bad..should we use these foreign player to improve our gameplay,quality and ranking like Singapore,Japan did?
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Jan 9 2007, 12:06 PM
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coz...to c wether malaysian really needed the foregin player or not..
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Jan 9 2007, 12:59 PM
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what i mean is Not Malays la but Non Malaysian..like other citizen such as Brazilian or Argentinian or even England..if u stated like that u generalised football player as Malay only..what about Indian,Chinese and other..such as Shebby,K.Sanbagamaran, Liew Kit Kong..
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Jan 9 2007, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Jan 9 2007, 02:52 PM) I don't see why not, but he'll have to be Malaysian, which is going to be highly unlikely. gahmen problem I guess. i think gov.. shuld be no problem at all..since other sport also use foreign player such as Yuan Yu Fang,Irina..it just maybe the veteran that wuld not like it.. but if we want to take the foreign..they shuld be the player that perform very well..not just tangkap muat ajer.. |
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Jan 9 2007, 03:41 PM
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yup..maybe just for short term..but it have positive impact also..at least local player will try harder to prove they worth to be in the squad..rite now..u can see always just familiar faces and player that have certain connection with the FAM..i'm not accused there are misconduct when choosing a player..but i see some of player are not suppose to be in the team..as example..Fadzli Shaari..i don think he shuld be in the squad..but he often been choosing..i dont know y..coz he's not good at all..some say he skill like Beckham..pls..i rather kill myself or eaten by the tiger... i and my fren just watched Malaysia for fun..i mean we will be laughing like hell when malaysia touch the ball.coz they always be something funny will happen..
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Jan 9 2007, 04:29 PM
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not just they think they can dribble to the penalty box..dont u c, when opponent hold the ball..all the player will chase the opponent like hell,like fish want to eat the bait..all the player in that sector will rush to opponent..no man marking at all,suppose to be only one player will go and try to beat the opponent but for malaysian all will go..very "cooperative" i say..
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Jan 9 2007, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(matty @ Jan 9 2007, 05:32 PM) foreign player no. use foreign personnel to help improve our football yes. as in coaches, trainer and the way to help improve our system in the way of how we gonna develope football at Malaysia. ya...but what about the past..dont u remember?hatem soussi,claude le roy,and few that i can't remember..all of them be a coach..but what happen.. |
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Jan 9 2007, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(matty @ Jan 9 2007, 06:09 PM) i dont think its the coach or the trainer at fault here. the player dont show any commitment to do wat they are told to do. training a bit tough complain. they dont show the initiative to improve themself as a player. try ask what is their diet is? and finally the coach or the trainer didn't hav the final say of who gonna play and who is not gonna play. why hatem soussi,claude le roy or others that been here to malaysia b4 have great success when they coach other country? hmm.ok..that 1 i agree with u..player attitude is that the problem now..when coach trained them they sez coach torture la,when coach not allowed them to eat nasi lemak and diet they say coach is ruthless la..what can we say..their ego is to high..but if coach doesnt strict enuff it could be the problem too.. they will nothave a self respect to the coach,This post has been edited by wanz_delpiero: Jan 9 2007, 05:22 PM |
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Jan 10 2007, 09:57 AM
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yup..only desperately foreigner will want to play in malaysia..i dont think shaun would like to play for malaysia..since he have btter option..why he wuld want play with team that are in 152 rankings?
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Jan 11 2007, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(Tachikoma @ Jan 11 2007, 03:38 AM) I'll assume that you're mostly talking about chinese parents. I've heard from some people, if you're a chinese, no matter how good you are you will find it very difficult to get into the state teams, much less the national team. Its stuff like that that's killing football around here - politics and connections are more important than real footballing skills. that 1 i didnt agree..coz 4 me..the reason y so little chinese playing football is because they not attract to play it..chinese as far as i know and see, love to play other sports such as basketball,badminton ,squash..even in school,we can see that these situation are really happen,if malay they rather to play football,hockey,takraw, for indian,football,hockey,100meter,200 meter, and other that fall in that category(acara balapan),for chinese like the thing i stated above..chinese i realize they start to fall in love with football when the futsal was introduced..but still in small majority |
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Jan 11 2007, 04:31 PM
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yup..we have to wait and c our squad perform for the AFF, hope it improved.i hope malaysian will earn some point,not going home empty handed..
by the way this is the latest ranking of our traditional enemy 137 -Thailand 153 -Indonesia 111 -Singapore pretty shocking,singapore is very well among south east asia ranking.. This post has been edited by wanz_delpiero: Jan 11 2007, 04:32 PM |
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Jan 11 2007, 04:44 PM
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malaysia is on 152..
for other 171 -Philippines 172 -Vietnam 174 -Cambodia 175 -Brunei Darussalam 154 -Myanmar 151 -Laos This post has been edited by wanz_delpiero: Jan 11 2007, 04:48 PM |
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Jan 12 2007, 09:42 AM
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hey everybodi..cool down a lil bit ya...i create this thread for all of us to discuss wether we need the foreign or not..not to bang each other..if u want to talk about racist go to the RWI la..hope this thread clean with racial issues...
we can still discuss about each races contiribution on football,but not to blame other.. This post has been edited by wanz_delpiero: Jan 12 2007, 09:49 AM |
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Jan 12 2007, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 12 2007, 01:06 PM) the problem is still down to mentality of the players and also the management, nope...we ask the sports minister to buy some more again la..hehehwe might get a strong team now (if we get the right foreign players), but what will happen when the bunch of foreign players retires ? we start the loop again ? sure they got a lot of money..since the able to build sports excellence centre in loondon.. |
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Jan 12 2007, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(theripper @ Jan 12 2007, 01:52 PM) for the poll, i say NO. fully agreed on u..good comment i actually can't agree with the words that Chinese aren't allowed to play state and national football because of politics and claim that the sport is 'owned' and managed by the Malays. what a lame reason. people who say that are the ones who don't really follow or never watch Malaysian football at all. as far as i know, Chinese and others like Indians have all been given fair and equal chances with Malays to play for the state and national teams. the reason why Malays are monopolizing the sport is because many of them are willing to give up other jobs or commitments. their parents are supporting them. but i can also see a very good number of other races especially Indians who play full time and managed to get into the top teams and the national squad itself. it's actually not about races at all, but rather depends on individual's preference. won't blame some or maybe most of the Chinese parents for disallowing their kids to fully commit to football career, coz that's their own choice, their rights. so please stop pointing ur fingers to the Malays or any other races. lets kick racist out of our football. This post has been edited by wanz_delpiero: Jan 12 2007, 12:56 PM |
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Jan 12 2007, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jan 12 2007, 04:10 PM) its because of the state of the current condition the football league is now in, that is why most chinese people stay away from it. can you seriously make a living out of it? i totally agreed with u that comment..1 of the example is Chelsea Malaysia(MPPJ)..they spend a lot,pay a higher salaries to the player,give each player a car to drive and what happen in the end..they unable to pay for all that,some player dont receive their salaries for few month..bikin malu saja.. no offense to the chinese or other people. chinese people typically plan for the future and not for the moment, hence they prefer to go into business or more stable jobs (where pay is guranteed every month). not to say that the other people dont plan at all la. most of the state team or clubs team have to depend on FAM to bail them out or wait for FAM financial aid and such. there is even news report that players have not been paid for months. how are you going to survive? especially so when those footballers have families to support? |
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Jan 18 2007, 11:09 AM
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there is one that i can remember,during 90 selangor has foreign GK..their goal keeper name karel stromsik..do u remember these guy,very good goal keeper i say..
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Jan 18 2007, 12:14 PM
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well..it could been better if they hire real mercenaries..if they lost,they just bombed the place..
sorry..just joking |
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Jan 18 2007, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Jan 18 2007, 01:30 PM) i think better changed the mgmt la..always same new faces.. why not changed to other especially the president shuld step down.. p/s: sorry sultan..not meaning to insult ,but our football still not changed under ur adminstration ampunkan patik tuanku.. |
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