since our reputation in South East Asia so bad..should we use these foreign player to improve our gameplay,quality and ranking like Singapore,Japan did?

surely yes.. when u see their improvement in football in singapore, japan, south korea, china etc. i wander y this question have to be raised ..

coz...to c wether malaysian really needed the foregin player or not..

Foriegn player? As in "Not malay" ? Or you mean someone like me, born in the UK with a Malay Dad, which would make me eligable to play for either nation?

If the latter, I say Yes!! As long as he's eligble to play, and he's not SOOOO good he would choose england as his nation. If you mean incorperating Singapore/malaysia/indonesia as a single entity (Like joining england, wales and scotland) I say No. Football is Identity, thats why fans are so pationate, lose the identity and we lose the beautiful game. Malaysian football isn't bad because theres no talent, it's still developing. If you look at the youth systems / scouting / and facilities in europe, you could see why malaysia is still behind in footballing terms. Malaysian football still needs development. Nurture the youth in the right manner, and you will see an improvement, granted, it won't be immediate, it may take decades, but hey, Rome wasn't built in a day.

But...There needs to be adequate coaching too, without top draw coaches / managers coming through, skillful players mean nothing. So the 2 go hand in hand.

Schools of excellence, coaching coarses made more available, and a dedicated youth system is whats needed to catch up in asia.

Being a small country isn't an excuse, England is tiny, but we can still produce class players occasionally. And on paper we have a strong national squad (I said on paper lol). Just give it time, things will happen out here!!

what i mean is Not Malays la but Non Malaysian..like other citizen such as Brazilian or Argentinian or even England..if u stated like that u generalised football player as Malay only..what about Indian,Chinese and other..such as Shebby,K.Sanbagamaran, Liew Kit Kong..

Shaun Maloney (Celtic/Scotland I'tl) was born in Malaysia.Wonder if he wants to play here

I don't see why not, but he'll have to be Malaysian, which is going to be highly unlikely. gahmen problem I guess.

Oh, i thought u meant National football, not league. If ur just talking about league football, then yes, i agree and injection of foreign players will be nice. Not only does it add some much needed excitment to the malaysian game, but they also bring with them a wealth of experience. That exp helps not only other players, but the management and coaching staff too. (Training excersises, tactics etc - If a manager want's to listen of course).

macam singapore matsalleh ada negro ada kiasu sangat until like this.

i think gov.. shuld be no problem at all..since other sport also use foreign player such as Yuan Yu Fang,Irina..
it just maybe the veteran that wuld not like it..
but if we want to take the foreign..they shuld be the player that perform very well..not just tangkap muat ajer..

Yes, desperately! =P

No, if it means "naturalising" foreign players the way Japan and Singapore did (bringing in people who can play football but had absolutely nothing to do with malaysia) as we would be stunting our long term growth this way. You know the way people are, once they're content they'll do nothing to improve themselves. (the FA in particular)

using foreign player wont determine the outcome a lot...

if you use 1, i will say no different, when he cross a superb ball, our player too short and can't head it, when he pass a through ball, our player bad positioning and off side.......opposition only need mark him deedly and game over......if use a lot foreign players, other nation will look down on us...

even if it works, also short term success, long term we still gonna suffer because foundation still matter the most

i still remember lopez, the brazilian that play in 1998 japan world cup squad, and yet he not the first choice...

instead, if FAM really decide use foreign players, players from african and south american will treat here as a place to earn money only because they know fans gonna treat them as god, FAM gonna give them big car big house....so, i don't think it will work....

yup..maybe just for short term..but it have positive impact also..at least local player will try harder to prove they worth to be in the squad..rite now..u can see always just familiar faces and player that have certain connection with the FAM..i'm not accused there are misconduct when choosing a player..but i see some of player are not suppose to be in the team..as example..Fadzli Shaari..i don think he shuld be in the squad..but he often been choosing..i dont know y..coz he's not good at all..some say he skill like Beckham..pls..i rather kill myself or eaten by the tiger... i and my fren just watched Malaysia for fun..i mean we will be laughing like hell when malaysia touch the ball.coz they always be something funny will happen..

This post has been edited by wanz_delpiero: Jan 9 2007, 04:25 PM

yeah la, seriuously, they play like amateur players la. so embarrassing. they think they can dribble all the way past the midfield to the penalty box lol.

small boy playing like that.

not just they think they can dribble to the penalty box..dont u c, when opponent hold the ball..all the player will chase the opponent like hell,like fish want to eat the bait..all the player in that sector will rush to opponent..no man marking at all,suppose to be only one player will go and try to beat the opponent but for malaysian all will go..very "cooperative" i say..

foreign player no. use foreign personnel to help improve our football yes. as in coaches, trainer and the way to help improve our system in the way of how we gonna develope football at Malaysia.

ya...but what about the past..dont u remember?
hatem soussi,claude le roy,and few that i can't remember..all of them be a coach..but what happen..

i dont think its the coach or the trainer at fault here. the player dont show any commitment to do wat they are told to do. training a bit tough complain. they dont show the initiative to improve themself as a player. try ask what is their diet is? and finally the coach or the trainer didn't hav the final say of who gonna play and who is not gonna play. why hatem soussi,claude le roy or others that been here to malaysia b4 have great success when they coach other country?

hmm.ok..that 1 i agree with u..player attitude is that the problem now..when coach trained them they sez coach torture la,when coach not allowed them to eat nasi lemak and diet they say coach is ruthless la..what can we say..their ego is to high..but if coach doesnt strict enuff it could be the problem too.. they will nothave a self respect to the coach,

This post has been edited by wanz_delpiero: Jan 9 2007, 05:22 PM