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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) V, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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twinkle5129
post Jul 8 2016, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 8 2016, 08:26 PM)
I wud advised u maintain those extra $$ in ASM/AS1M 1st until u find alternative investments
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post Jul 9 2016, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 8 2016, 11:11 PM)
Only rm300 for asw. sad.gif If next week still like that, I try all 3 books again. Actually aiming for asw now and KIV AS1M. But since asw so hard to get (2 bank worker told me "buku merah paling susah") better taruh in the other 2 and earn dividend rather than no dividend at all.
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thumbsup.gif That's what I did on 1/6/16 instead of wasting another month 'hunting' for ASW. Luckily everything gone in easily with my usual multiple visits + extra camping on that day. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(winyap991 @ Jul 9 2016, 12:22 AM)
Successful topup rm8k in one transaction for ASW, around 10am, feel lucky.
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thumbsup.gif Lucky timing. Not many people at the banks yesterday. Even my bank staff in charge of ASNB was off yesterday. I was there to place FDs.

QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jul 9 2016, 12:39 AM)
i see alot of you guys are still buying continuously,
i have stopped for more than a month now. target exceeded,
1 yr ago was ASM:AS1M:ASW  45:37:18, now 34:26:40.
More difficult to buy must be better right?
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Auntie twinkle stopped last month. My ratios ASM> ASW> AS1M now. Will adjust to ASM=ASW > AS1M later.
I lowered my ASW contribution earlier as $$ was stuck in FDs until this month and total value of combined accounts are beyond my intended target.

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post Jul 10 2016, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(OPT @ Jul 10 2016, 03:10 PM)
Hello. It's me 😂

Jokes aside, trying to top up again on Friday but kena halau (😱 - system down, go try other banks 😡).

Need to start getting busy again...
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ohmy.gif Go multiple visits / camping during lunch time.


QUOTE(tonytyk @ Jul 10 2016, 08:23 PM)
Do they have that much units available ? Have not been successful to top up any unit recently, to get 200k would take years, what more for 2mil.
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It's not impossible as long as you've luck and time on your side.
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post Jul 11 2016, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Jul 11 2016, 11:25 AM)
Managed to get RM2K for AS1M.

No units available for ASW2020..

My ASW2020 is very much the smallest holdings among my AS1M, and ASM..

Not successful to try ASW2020 all the time..  blush.gif
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Top up whichever account 1st. Wait for ASW2020 ex dividend date to top up. Less than 2mths to wait.

QUOTE(familyfirst @ Jul 11 2016, 11:30 AM)
Working ma, so go to nearest branch lor.    If always have to take leave go and queue, lagi jialat.
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Any non working family member to help you?

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post Jul 11 2016, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(virgoguy @ Jul 11 2016, 04:00 PM)
Just got ASM for 4 digits and my friends got 5 digits. ASW and AS1M all no units. Got it from the ASB mobile van
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QUOTE(kingdomdemon @ Jul 11 2016, 04:18 PM)
I tried to go to the office at 12 noon and it was so crowded like there are more than 100 person queuing inside. Will try early morning tomorrow. If cannot, i will put my money in FD or unit trust in the afternoon  bye.gif
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Avoid Mon & Fri as it's the busiest day. I'd already expected today to be busy due to post holiday.
Don't go too early to ASNB as majority ASNB sellers will go to banks. Majority Banks opening hrs 0915.



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post Jul 11 2016, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 11 2016, 05:17 PM)
after 10am should be okay right.. that when the units would be "floating"on the system
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It's difficult to 'read' the sellers mind as we're one of them. biggrin.gif

I was at ASNB on Monday & Friday 10am+ before and it was super crowded.

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 11 2016, 05:25 PM)
Me 2  sweat.gif
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I thought it'll be easier for you than the rest of us.

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post Jul 11 2016, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(OPT @ Jul 11 2016, 05:34 PM)
Not Maybank, should be Affin acting 😅

Alliance only variable price units
Btw, I got 4 digit ASW, others 👻

Seems my AS1M luck still avoiding me 🤕

Will try again next few days if free ✌️
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Wow! Difficult to get AS1M? I should hold on to the extra few units in my acct now.
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post Jul 11 2016, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 11 2016, 10:13 PM)
affin bank not fussy right?  hmm.gif
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My local Affin bank required signed 'wakil' form with IC copy.

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 11 2016, 10:21 PM)
Hold on tight
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post Jul 12 2016, 05:57 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 11 2016, 10:44 PM)
the "wakil" form & IC copy they take or give back to us?  hmm.gif
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No, They kept the form as a bank record. I can just walk in any time with my family passbook and he'll deduct from my account or pay cash for any successful transaction.


QUOTE(Asmasw2020 @ Jul 11 2016, 11:23 PM)
Usually during my top up each time, ill ask the banker whether i can open as1m. Just trying my luck at the same time as my current two books still long way to go to reach target.
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Take 1/2 day off and go to ASNB.

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post Jul 12 2016, 04:26 PM

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Hello everyone- SHARING time:-

Finally brought my nephew to open ASNB accounts today. He was supposed to take 1/2 day off only but at the end he had to take full day' unpaid leave' as he has already utilised all his AL for his studies. I also really wanted him to have the 3 accounts since we have been there for few hrs.
Anyway, luckily he was willing to sacrifice 1 day after listening to my advice and luckily his boss is a flexible lady.

'Super regret' sad.gif as ASNB are packed from the whole time we were there. It must be due to post HARI RAYA stuff. I was told it was equally busy yesterday. Managed to strike up conversation with anyone who was sitting next to me and many are still on extended Hari Raya holidays.

Once we reached ASNB, long Q numbers but I decided to collect few numbers in between waiting. I only asked for 100u to open account.

We Q 8x from 11am- 2.30pm. Luckily he got
AS1M- 11.00+
ASM- 12.00+
ASW- 2.20pm.

In between, there were few customers who'd managed to get ASM & ASW units but unfortunately insufficient units during our timing. 1 auntie managed to get $6k ASW at 12:00+. Another man came with >5 passbooks (family) managed to get some units for few of his ASM, AS1M, ASW passbooks.

On our way back, we stopped by Affin bank to do the 'wakil' stuff and managed to get 4 digits AS1M for him. Will only be looking for few digits in coming days for him. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 12 2016, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 12 2016, 05:07 PM)
AS1M is the 1st to get (because it's the easiest) & ASW2020 last to get (because very hard)

so my theory is true after all (based on my experiences)..
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Just about timing as others managed to get ASW during their time there.

Now that he got the passbook, the rest of the top up could be done back in my township.

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post Jul 12 2016, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 12 2016, 05:20 PM)
yeah, timing also play role.. but basically I see asw is the hardest to get  dry.gif

and the most important is the passbook. thanks to u, he managed to get..
not everyone have people that will take the time to help. my respect to u auntie flex.gif  thumbsup.gif
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I was prepared to leave if still cannot get ASW after 2pm but lady luck was on our side at the end. My nephew was satisfied with AS1M & ASM already but I told him not to give up yet since we 'wasted >3hrs and I still have another Q number left (after next 12 customers again).

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post Jul 12 2016, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(iLegend @ Jul 12 2016, 03:57 PM)
After waiting for 2 hours, managed to open account and buy 3 digits for ASW2020 & AS1M and 4 digits for ASM !!

Thank you sifu for the tips  rclxms.gif  !! Will continue to accumulate  bruce.gif
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QUOTE(iLegend @ Jul 12 2016, 05:50 PM)
Thanks for sharing  rclxms.gif Good strategy.
But will it be easier to get ASM unit compared to AS1M & ASW since  dividend already distributed for ASM?
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Luck & timing again.

At least now I can help him to top up whatever is available 1st. Later can do small top up with his monthly salary. Easier if I do it for everyone since I have the time to visit bank few times/day if needed.
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post Jul 12 2016, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Jul 12 2016, 05:59 PM)
Folks, I see a lot of talk here of personal targets for the ASX accounts (RM150k, RM200k etc), but any idea what are these personal targets (or recommendations) in terms of % of net worth ?

I currently have about 36% of NW in ASX. Personally I find it high in terms of concentration (but then again ASX is to my understanding a low risk, highly liquid and easily accessible investment).

Any thoughts from the experienced people here ? Would you go all the way say to 60% , 70 % of net worth in ASX?
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hmm.gif I think it depend on your comfort level.
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post Jul 12 2016, 07:47 PM

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By the way, when I was at ASNB, it happened the counter staff's computer (the only one affected) has some issues and it took her longer to check availability and to process opening of account.
It was unfortunate/ fortunate as my number was called to her counter 5-6x today. Luckily she was nice and still willing to check for me. For each successful opening, she has to 'wait' for the computer to 'process' and referred me to another counter if it took longer than usual.
Finally at 2.20pm, when sufficient units were available, she managed to open ASW for me but unable to process the form and passbook this time.
She had to enter it manually on the form and processed the new passbook on other counter for me.
I'm very grateful & thankful that she tried her best for us.

ASNB staff also said there were some issues last Friday and it did affect other bank system too at times.

* I also double checked if my HIBAH is ready and staff said, once they have processed it at branch level, it'll be sent to HQ and HQ will be the one sending it out to applicants. It'll take at least 2 mths. For undelivered mails, it'll be return to branch level and they'll contact the applicants directly.

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post Jul 12 2016, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Jul 12 2016, 08:42 PM)
Of course.

Yes but it's tough to find comparable asset classes with similar levels of risk and returns.

Fair enough, I guess the threshold in % of net worth would change depending on a person's age and life stage (student, early career, mid career, retirement etc).
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nod.gif nod.gif I'm having tough time deciding what to do with my current FDs $$ but already have too much in ASX too.


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post Jul 12 2016, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 12 2016, 09:27 PM)
You can try buying a cimb bond. According to mr guy, it have been >6+% for >7 years. Need min RM250k.
Yes.
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post Jul 13 2016, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 12 2016, 10:43 PM)
U must have bad experience with them
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 12 2016, 10:45 PM)
ahahah still cannot forget the incident with the manager  devil.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 13 2016, 05:40 AM)
You don't need to be interested. Eg like dasecret said, ASX is a blackbox investment (not transparent). Who cares not transparent? As long give you give me >= 6.x% + principal is "protected" + excellent track record, I don't care. That's just personal view.
You don't like that CIMB bank, go to another CIMB bank. Easy.
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Sorry, still not interested. the only 'outside' investment I'm willing to let 'others' handling my precious retirement saving are ASNB FP. The rest, I'd rather invest in company that I can have full respect. CIMB= 100% mad.gif ,

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post Jul 13 2016, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 12 2016, 08:18 PM)
Well some group of people in Malaysia uses ASX FP as their SA.  whistling.gif
For me, I am 100% in ASX FP until I worked. After that I will venture into other stuff.
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QUOTE(OPT @ Jul 12 2016, 10:57 PM)
You betul-betul still studying? Where did you get the fund then?  tongue.gif
Any lubang let me know ya. PM me  icon_rolleyes.gif

Update: Today busy day, only tried once. Got 0 units  yawn.gif
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Be at peace and just top up your ASX FP until you reach your personal target.
After years of investing here and there, scammed by many few times, now I'll just stay put with ASX FP and managed my own personal investments instead of paying agents/ banks service fees.

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post Jul 13 2016, 02:08 PM

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Day report:- For my nephew

11:30
- ASM, ASW, AS1M- No units

(Off to marketing & home)

12:15
- AS1M- 3 digits. (Top up completed today)
- ASW- 1k
- ASM- 0

Stayed at the bank for 30mins and retry at
1:00pm
- ASW- baby units
- ASM- 5 digits.

Finally completed moving his limited $$ + some 'ang pow' $ from me to ASX by today. Actually a bit of extras gone in but he'll repay me on his salary day.



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