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hi, guys. i just found out about this interesting thread about Architectural Studies.. nice to see so many Kaki-Lang/same-course buddies arnd..

I'm a Archi Student as well in Taylors.. currently waiting for my final sem.. going aussie beginning of 08. *if i dont fail any subs la, lolx* planning to go for RMIT.. but not sure is it a good choice, since Azarimy said might sacrifice recognition and qualification. Wat u guys think?

i would like to share some of my exp in A.S. (architectural studies), better not work la, unless during holiday la. i know some of u are SuperMan/Girl.. but it might affect ya projects/assignment.. i tried working to earn extra money.. good news is, i made quite some money, bad news is, i pulled my entire CGPA down.. and i realize by focusing only in my studies, the outcome of my projects seems to be alot better than i expected!! so i would suggest anyone who is doing A.S. put ur 101% effort in it.. dont worry/think bout other things.. *money cant buy CGPA *

for those who wanna know abt RMIT.. from wat i know via my frenz is tat, it is cheaper compared to Melb U, some PPL claimed it is better than Melb U *in wat ways, i dunno* in terms of lecturer??!? to get in to RMIT, a few of my frenz did get in, studying in Taylors, they said u need to have an average of at least 65% and must have really really good Portfolio.. as long as u can provide this, u stand a good chance to get into RMIT...

finally. it will be cool if all of us could have a gathering isnt it? and share our work, exp, tales, etc etc.... *just a suggestion though*

take care everyone, see u at da top!!

yeap, one of my buddy is thr, left me in the other school

I dun recall Azarimy ever saying Uni Melb is better than RMIT. i believe both unis are comparable and equally good. its like comparing UM and UTM, both are equally good wif focus on different things which make them unique. These 2 r one of da top unis in Australia, so their quality will not differ much.

Thats wat i ve been saying in my last post. Dun waste time doing part time jobs and u dun hav much choices esp when ur in Aus, its either da fast food joint or in some rare cases car jockey, u r sure 2 b worked very hard. Like pumpkin said, money cant buy results.

err. excuse me, i dont mean Melb U is better than RMIT. instead, i was asking, since Melb U is having this sort of twinning with Archi Students in Taylors, will we loose any benefits if we decided to go for RMIT instead of Melb U?

here's what i know:

up until now, LAM does not recognize any twinning programmes. to them, when u do part 1, u do it full in one school, and when u do part 2, u do it full in one school. no switching.

what taylor's provide is some sort of a loophole:

3 years diploma after SPM (non part 1). melb U will accept diploma holders from taylor's into 3rd year (final year) of part 1. meaning u'll do 1 year part 1. later u'll do a part 2 in melb U as well.



at the moment, unless u reveal that u're from taylor's, there's no way for LAM to know that ur part 1 is a twinning programme. i believe on the certificate it'll state "Bachelor of Science in Architectural Studies" or something. so when u apply for part 1 and 2, usually u'll just show LAM the two degrees. but ofcourse, if they check ur portfolio, u might kantoi there. i'm not sure what the consequence are, bcoz i've never met anyone in this situation yet.

if u're going to RMIT with a taylor's diploma, similar problem might occur. but since RMIT does not have a partnership with taylor's, u'll join 2nd year instead.

owh..like that eh ? well..one of my studiomate was from taylors and after 2 years in taylors..he switched to UiTM..so does that mean he'll be facing a prob when it comes to getting the part 1 ?

not really, bcoz he'll be graduating LAM part 1, not RIBA part 1. it's easier for LAM to regulate the accreditation in the country rather than abroad. as they understand it, IPTAs in msia is well recognized as being really strict on what kind of graduates they produce, mainly bcoz IPTAs dont see students as clients, making them less answerable to the students, hence they have the luxury to only make sure only the worthy passes.

this is the same with most top universities in the world, for example, the bartlett and AA in london both have about 70-80% passing rate. meaning of 100 students graduating each year, about 20-30 students WILL fail.

so going back to ur friend's issue: since he'll be graduating from UiTM, there isnt much of a problem bcoz he'll be going through the "hard" way, the way that LAM recognizes

Hmm. So that means I will lose out one year if i join RMIT rather than Melb U? As in, if i go into RMIT, they'll put me in 2nd year, so i gotta do 2nd and 3rd year to finish the degree in Architecturial Studies, and if i continue in Melb, i go straight to the final year, in which i only do 3rd year and get my degree in Architecturial Studies?

RMIT is also in melbourne, so the only difference between studying there and melbourne would be only the tuition fees right? Hmm..

strictly speaking, i think taylors is offering a credit transfer, not a twinning program per se.

btw, in what language are architecture courses conducted in in local public Us?

in a word, YES.



po-tey-to, po-tah-to. i know the difference, but the consequence is still the same.

primarily english. it has been one of those courses taught in english even before the directives that all courses must be in english, only that, it was taught more of a rojak before. now it's streamlined to use proper english, both verbally and on paper. there're still options to privately study in BM or take exams in BM, a provision for the lingually-challenged .

ah, I see.

ok thats cool.

LUCT's diploma? i'm not exactly sure, but i believe LUCT will allow u to either opt for LUCT's 3rd year degree (part 1), or 3rd year degree in Curtin (australia) for part 1.

is construction law an important subject to architecture students? i'm goin to choose an elective subject for my 2nd sem n i dunno whether i hv to choose estimating or construction law or site surveying.is these subjects will be taught in future( i mean in uni)

if there are any taylorians, pls give some suggestions.

thank you.

electives are subjects u can opt to take or not. the reason is, elective subjects are topics that u can either learn in class, learn by urself, or learn during practice. ofcourse, taking classes would give u the advantage later on in life. learning by urself give u the advantage of time. and learning in practice gives u the advantage of applicability and practicality.

it's up to u really. i'd say construction law is as important as estimating or site surveying.

each university employ slightly different curriculum from each other. i believe USM embeds construction law through out the years of study (meaning u'll learn it bit by bit as u go through the years). UTM focuses construction law towards the end of the degree. this allows the student to concentrate on design matters without restrictions first, and later learn what "the law doesnt allow u to do".

icic.thanks azarimy.

sigh,actually i'm planning to take 6 subjects in every sem so that the 3 years diploma can become 2 n a half year. but those subjects included design studio with 5 credit hours. so i juz worried will i failed to handle this heavy burden.

do u think is that wiseble to make out this decision?
i) take 6 subjects in every sem which about 16-18 total of
credit hours and be very busy

OR

ii) take only bout 4 or 5 subjects,just like the college
arranged and will not be that stressed

Do u think this decision will affected my results? Which maybe caused by the lacking of time to finish the project or dint put enough time on it(means not enough effort)

can u pls pls giv me some opinion or suggestions?

thank you for ur answers.

i'm not very familiar with the loading of work in taylor's. but lets assume they follow the international standard, i'd say 16 credits is quite heavy for the average student. i wont pass judgement, but i'm sure u could judge ur own capabilities . how many semesters have u studied? how does it feel? these questions should get u started on whether or not u could take more than 16 credits.

generally, i'd recommend 14 credits. u get plenty of time to revise, and especially a lot of time to spend on design, which is the core of architecture education. i understand the notion of trying to shorten ur education duration, but u need to be aware that LAM only recognize part 2 of a minimum of 5 years after STPM, or 6 years after SPM. assume u shorten ur diploma to 2.5 years, then 1 year for part 1, and later 2 years for part 2, that's on 5.5 years after SPM! there's no way u can get recognized now. moreover, ur results might be compromised as u couldnt manage the 18credit per sem.

architecture is not something u could squeeze as quickly as possible. design maturity is a huge factor in practice, and this comes only through time and experience. u can teach an 8-year-old to be quick and efficient in math, but u can only be street smart the longer u spend on the streets.

i'm not discouraging u from taking 18credits per semester to shorten ur education duration. but from my point of view, the cons outweighs the pros in this one.

Any interior designer here? hehe

carrielyn superwoman edi ah?
your previous sems result all HDs?

hi mr.azarimy , i am in PSZ library now ... the comps are crappy ...hehehhee ...
but still can use lah .
anyway , my PA is pn.raja something . and my studio tutor is dr.rashid .

btw , i will answer the LUCT question above .
yes , you can go for LUCT but not diploma programme . their diploma programme has been discontinued . in case you want to study diploma , i dont really suggest you to go for it , becasue i got few friends in LUCT , diploma holder , they still need to join start from the 2nd year . that means you will waste quite some time .
by the way , whati can say is LUCT is one of the crappiest place i ever been , try to avoid there . go for STPM , get a normal 2.9-3.5 grade isn't hard . then go for local universities . i am at UTM now , and the studio has been renovated , it is ljust like an office for now , touch wood . ... but not sure on 5th year lah . but i can assure you that UTM quality is better in the sense of the lecturer qualities and also the pentabiran over here . in LUCT , everything is mixed up , u need to do all the registration yourself , and they wont send you offer letter at all . they wont warn you on your delayed fees , until they charge another 10% extra on your study fee , they will inform you . a bad and dirty tactics . the lecturer qualities ? hmm ... local uni is heavily funded , most of the lecturers are PhD qualification , while in LUCT , you will find alot of fresh just finished 3rd year students as tutors over there , you ask them questions , they still need to refer to other people ..
regarding the PART 1 , i would like to say it is not really true in LUCT , my senior of 2006 batch doesnt have the PART 1 qualification , my tutor told us during my days in LUCT that ithe PART 1 only comes in batches , some batch got ... some no ....