Wow.. that's amazing. you did well , i think. Thats your first choice? I also hope that I could be accepted. I just performed normal only. No one praised me like that. They just kept laughing at me as I was too terrible on answering those names of menteri menteri.
hey, are you malay, gal or boy?
What 's ur number? hehehe...I mean SB what?

This post has been edited by Jia0924: Apr 23 2007, 05:52 PM

2nd. And they did ask me about making choices between my first and second. I told them I wud take any uni that's willing to accept me.

nola... me tong yan! GUY la of cos... my sig and gender tag say it all.

mine is SB49! URS? waited whole morning and they came and told us we were to be interviewed after lunch time! and even if i was 49, 50,55,58 all those 50+ got to enter first! i was worried that they cud've missed me. and finally they called me in, and i was the 3rd from the last.

so wat were u wearing? comon tell me!

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Added on April 23, 2007, 6:07 pmBTW, where were u from? penang? and where were u interviewed? A, B or C?

This post has been edited by europology: Apr 23 2007, 06:08 PM

wah ...
so panic now ..
got another confirmation mail about the venue ...

as said in this thread before, u get jobs either by word of recommendation from frens/previous clients, tender for advertised jobs or win the project outright through competition.

You can open ur firm without a Part 3. Just that ur firm wont be able to endorse any drawings which is pretty useless right? Then u need to hire a Part 3 architect who'll b able to sign drawings and his signature is not cheap ok.

Whats the shortest time? immediately 2 years after graduating la... u need minimum of 2 yrs working experience b4 u can even take the Part 3 exam.

Azari is not a Part 3 architect yet. He's been teaching and now doing his Masters and Phd since graduating. Not sure whether he wants to take a Part 3 exam if he finds teaching sufficient for him.

This post has been edited by xtracooljustin: Apr 23 2007, 06:19 PM

how was everyone's drawing test ?
pleasant guy ? you are dude ... Band 6 english .. sure la .

*ZIP*

not in that sense. a pleasant guy smiles a lot. so ya, SMILE! that's the magic word.

yes, architects cant advertise their services. they are bound to the professional code. hence the only way to do business is by reputation. yes, it's usually hell starting up a new firm. so usually it's based on:

i. tender, where u bid ur proposals against other architects.
ii. client who have dealt with u before.
iii. reputation, recommendation and reference.
iv. pure luck that they stumble upon ur office.


not necessarily. like justin have said, u can open ur own firm with part 2, but u cant endorse any project. such firms usually attach itself to another established firm with chartered architects, or employ a part 3 holder, or associate ur office with a part 3 holder (contractual or part time) to endorse ur projects.

no, i'm not a part 3 holder. i'm more as a lecturing architect rather than a practicing ones. my expertise is architecture education, which currently there are only about 2-3 others in msia. i dont plan for a part 3. atleast not in 10 years. probably not ever.

okay, first of all, i'm disturbed by the fact that they're asking names of menteri-menteri. why is that relevant to architecture education? i dont suppose they're gonna train u to kiss their asses... hahhaa!

anyway, here's a brief explanation on how UPU works:

i. u submit ur application, with 8 choices ranked according to ur choice of preference.
ii. UPU receives ur application. they send ur application to ALL universities of ur choice, regardless of having interviews or not.
iii. each university processes ur application.
iv-a. universities that requires interview will make a shortlist. if ur name is in the list, u will be called for the interview. u will be assessed and ranked, and a final list is formed. this goes for all 8 universities that u have specified in the list.
iv-b. universities that doesnt require interview will straight away form a final list.
v. each university submits their final list to UPU.
vi. UPU checks the list and cross referenced it to ur application. it checks for all 8 choices u have made.
vii. UPU identifies the offer from the highest rank of choice, and sends u the offer letter.

Where are the other 2 or 3 lecturing archis currently lecturing at?

The USM interviewers told me it's important to know the menteris' names and some knowledge in politics as it will help us guys through the archi career in the future. And one of them said this is a killing question to most students as they seem ignorant to internal politics and affairs, which is by the most part, TRUE. I dunno how relevant politics is to architecture, maybe aza u can explain further.

And for the uni priority part, I too was confused when I was told the same thing that morning. Cos it's different from wat u've told us b4. Hmm... Or maybe the rule has changed? Since u're not in Malaysia, cud it be they changed it without informing u?

This post has been edited by europology: Apr 24 2007, 02:20 AM

well .
i prefer not to know how it works becasue it is simply out of our control range .

i dunno. i dont reject the possibility. but here's a thought:

if that's the way they run the show, that would mean UM, one of the leading architecture schools in msia, would have very, very low priority, regardless if u put them as 1st choice, wouldnt it?

that doesnt seem right to me.

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Added on April 24, 2007, 2:38 ampolitics in architecture is as big as the nations politics. it's even dirtier, and demands bigger sacrifice. if u're not backed with the right people, u wont dine at the main table, know what i mean?

lets take a look at real-world scenario.

gerbang perdana just lost a huge chunk of their project simply because singapore refuse to build their side of the bridge. lets look at the project itself. now that it has no purpose, the client have the right to cancel. but architects have the rights for a compensation as well. but look how much they've got in return?

it's almost as much as the project cost itself, were it to be built. dont tell me there's no politics involved. u must know which person to push, which to pull.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Apr 24 2007, 02:38 AM

UM still depends on the interview kah ?
becasue from the upu webpage , still got UM in the list where we can key in our IC to check it out .

normally interview or drawing more score ?

UM doesnt have interview, hence why i said that if courses with interviews receive priority over those that doesnt, regardless of choice rank, that would mean UM is the least sought after university. simply read: UM is not popular/crappy school, which i can show u for sure that they arent. i would recommend UM to anyone anytime!

the interview carries more weight than the drawing+aptitude test combined.

politics is definitely important. throughout history, politics of the world govern the architecture of that time.

Hi Azarimy,

Now i'm doing my final project d.The first semester is almost end.I hv a question here.

"How to make an effective and creative portfolio?" Can u giv me a guide that Wat i should hv in it ? Cuz my lecturer said that we can design our own portfolio but juz not to over design or decorated it.So i would like to know wat the interviewer would like to see the most as u had been a interviewer be4 rite?

Thank you for all.

Please refer to the previous few pages. it's all stated there.


And if asking the menteris' names is not relevant, another fren of mine was being asked the name of the American president and the actions he hv done. LOL!!!! That ain't really relevant eh? This shud be asked in interviews for Political Science or Journalism, if there is one, which I think is more apt.

This post has been edited by europology: Apr 24 2007, 02:57 PM

the portfolio i've mentioned earlier in the topic is quite specific to those going for the university admissions interview. if u're talking about presenting or showcasing ur architectural work for future interviews, then we're talking about a slightly different typology.

refer justin's online portfolio. that should give u an idea what to expect.

well, if they're asking general knowledge, then that's fine. but asking the names of menteri is not general knowledge. general knowledge is roughly what's going on in the world. of course some general knowledge to me might not be the same with u.

the point here is not just about general knowledge. they also wanna see ur confidence in replying, whether u really know the topic or just making something up. this is very common (people making things up) bcoz they dont wanna answer "i dont know". it's a straight forward answer = "I DONT KNOW". be confident that u dont know about something.

hey ..
anyone's date is UTM 29th APRIL 2007 ?
how come my friend's is 28th APRIL 2007 ?

the interviews are held for two days, 28 to 29 april.

Hey to all who thinks UM is a lousier/crappier school compared to others, I can say whole heartedly that you are extremely wrong. I'm Part 2 Architectural Undergraduate from UM and UM is the ONLY architectural school in Malaysia to be acreditted by RIBA. Think about that. Other schools have applied and they have failed the accreditation. UM applied only ONCE and we got it there and then.

Also, the last PAM Awards, our seniors dominated the awards. Of course the bosses received the awards instead of them (because they are still Part 2) but some of them received the awards themselves. One example is the highest award that was given that night.

So, think about that.

well , i see ...
but no ppl said UM is a crappy school . but it is still a good school in malaysia . ppl aim to enter but it is too tough .

from what we know is there is decrease in ranking . down to below 200.
it isn't a university where it can compare itself directly to NUS or HONGKONG university anymore . unlike last time .

correct me if i am wrong.