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post Mar 4 2007, 06:27 AM

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QUOTE(Carrielyn @ Mar 4 2007, 12:39 AM)
Em then how bout AA school of Architecture?is it more on practical/technical?


according to my juniors who have studied there, AA is more of a theoretical+philosophical school. it's where u pit the best architects in the world together and see who's idea prevails.

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I'm so curious to know about AA school of architecture is becuz i saw it prospectus in my sku library.I juz simply look through very fast then i found out the sku seems to be so so great of their course there.Hence,it become one of my choice.^^

But because it is only diploma,5 years izzit?if for me maybe less than tat or depends rite?^^ so when i graduated n wan to do a futher study ,then i'll going to study degree or master?

oh need your help.Thx.
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well, i'd have to emphasize that AA is one of the education institution that refuse to follow any proper system. their diploma is equivalent to ANY 2nd degree of architecture in the world. i'm not sure how the intake system works. my junior, a UTM diploma holder, was fortunate enough that she was awarded exemption from both 1st and 2nd year, straight to her 3rd year. another friend of mine, also holds a UTM diploma, only manages to join 2nd year.

so it varies.

another point to note: to feel how powerful a student can get in a democratic world, join AA. u'll get to vote, in a democratic system, who will be the head of school. so if the students dont like the head of school, they can vote him off and appoint other architect. and not just any architect, THE architect. no architect in the world would want to miss to become the head of one of the most prestigious school of architecture in the world!
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 3 2007, 07:20 PM)

i'm not quite sure of the actual aussie fees, but in the UK, fees span between GBP8k to 10k a year. maybe somebody from aussie univ could tell us more. i'm guessing AUD 10k a year perhaps?

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Depending on places, unis in Sdyney and capital Canberra are around AU$24K. at Melbourne area, ranges from 19k-22K. (Which works out around RM60K a year) by da way, rent for a regular studio apartment in Melbourne goes for AU$1K a month.

U wan the cheapest, go to Tasmania. Which if im not mistaken da last structure fee was either 14-17K a year.

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oh thx guys. I know that to get a place in the AA must depends on results too.So i'll go for more research...n work HARD!!hahaha.

Thanks a lot!
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QUOTE(Carrielyn @ Mar 4 2007, 09:59 AM)
oh thx guys. I know that to get a place in the AA must depends on results too.So i'll go for more research...n work HARD!!hahaha.

Thanks a lot!
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its not about results too... money matters but the most important is YOU.

wat distinguish AA students from others are the way they carry themselves and also the way they think. so its not really bout academics u see...
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For uni architecture interview sessions, do we candidates need to bring our drawing samples for the interviewer to judge, or to act as an extra point for us? Last time I saw lotsa interviewees brought their sketches to an interview conducted by UTM last time. But I don't have any sketches in hand, will it be a minus point, and put me in a disadvantageous position?
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drawing samples is a must. not having so would put u in a slight disadvantage compared to those who have. but then again, not everyone brought convincing portfolio. i mean, i've seen a guy brought a thick portfolio full of absolute crap, which is to not only did not give him an advantage, it even convinced me that he doesnt know how to draw or even hold a pencil properly.

but for some individual, they have such a strong presence and charisma that they dont even need good grades to ace the interview. we've interviewed this boy, wailoon i think his name, who was so strong in presence, cool looking and very, very selamba like he dont care. and we know he's in before he even showed us his portfolio. such presence laaa, u see?

hairstyle, dressing, the kinda watch u wear... that's a portfolio of YOU. which something people usually neglect. drawing portfolio? yeah, sure that's important. but your personality is as important as well!
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Has anyone come across with TARC Certificate in Technology (Architecture)? Albeit TARC offer architecture course, but seriously, is it an ideal institution to study architecture?
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define ideal.

some people chose TARC solely for the reason of they can see the building from their backyard. now THAT's ideal, both economically as well as family-wise.

but education wise, the best place to study architecture in msia is still the public universities (UTM, UiTM, USM, UM, UIAM). i wont recommend UPM just yet until they get their part 1 accreditation. LUCT is the best private institution in msia to offer architecture, and taylor's is following close behind. other colleges are too far away from catching up with IPTAs.
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QUOTE(europology @ Mar 4 2007, 01:19 PM)
For uni architecture interview sessions, do we candidates need to bring our drawing samples for the interviewer to judge, or to act as an extra point for us? Last time I saw lotsa interviewees brought their sketches to an interview conducted by UTM last time. But I don't have any sketches in hand, will it be a minus point, and put me in a disadvantageous position?
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i didnt bring anything for my interview back in 2002 and my interviewer was Dr Syed, Head of Department of Architecture UTM.

imagine my horror and surprise when i saw the Ang cousins bringing stacks of portfolio that day laugh.gif i was quite adamant the letter that i received calling for interview didnt ask me to bring anything else.... rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 4 2007, 05:51 PM)
drawing samples is a must. not having so would put u in a slight disadvantage compared to those who have. but then again, not everyone brought convincing portfolio. i mean, i've seen a guy brought a thick portfolio full of absolute crap, which is to not only did not give him an advantage, it even convinced me that he doesnt know how to draw or even hold a pencil properly.

but for some individual, they have such a strong presence and charisma that they dont even need good grades to ace the interview. we've interviewed this boy, wailoon i think his name, who was so strong in presence, cool looking and very, very selamba like he dont care. and we know he's in before he even showed us his portfolio. such presence laaa, u see?

hairstyle, dressing, the kinda watch u wear... that's a portfolio of YOU. which something people usually neglect. drawing portfolio? yeah, sure that's important. but your personality is as important as well!
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but last time u said we do not have to know how to draw, as we will be taught how when we're in uni later.

so if we do not know how to draw, how are we gonna hand up the portfolios during interviews?

and if i know how to draw, but do not have any sketches, wat am i gonna do now?

basically, wat kind of sketches are appropriate? IIANM, buildings? any other else?

and for the clothes, wat shud we wear? isit for guys, a long sleeve shirt and a tie or just a tee plus jeans smth like that? last time i saw the majority of them wore tees, sports shoes, jeans etc. those wearing formal were less than 5.

QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Mar 4 2007, 09:28 PM)
i didnt bring anything for my interview back in 2002 and my interviewer was Dr Syed, Head of Department of Architecture UTM.

imagine my horror and surprise when i saw the Ang cousins bringing stacks of portfolio that day  laugh.gif i was quite adamant the letter that i received calling for interview didnt ask me to bring anything else....  rolleyes.gif
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dat's why i dunno whether it's a must or not. since the letter nvr mentions anything, just the date and venue. plus clothing isnt mentioned either. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(europology @ Mar 4 2007, 10:05 PM)
but last time u said we do not have to know how to draw, as we will be taught how when we're in uni later.

so if we do not know how to draw, how are we gonna hand up the portfolios during interviews?

and if i know how to draw, but do not have any sketches, wat am i gonna do now?

basically, wat kind of sketches are appropriate? IIANM, buildings? any other else?

and for the clothes, wat shud we wear? isit for guys, a long sleeve shirt and a tie or just a tee plus jeans smth like that? last time i saw the majority of them wore tees, sports shoes, jeans etc. those wearing formal were less than 5.
dat's why i dunno whether it's a must or not. since the letter nvr mentions anything, just the date and venue. plus clothing isnt mentioned either.  rclxub.gif
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sorry, earlier i meant to say "work sample is a must", not drawing samples. the portfolio consists of art-related works, or stuff that illustrates ur level of creativity or innovation. examples of non-drawing portfolio that i've seen:
    i. pictures of murals on school walls, grafitti etc.
    ii. samples of magazine covers (using desktop publishing softwares)
    iii. image editings
    iv. pictures of handycrafts (kad raya, bookmarks, stickers etc)
    v. costume designs (cosplay)

but it is not actually required. we need to know ur level of creativity. if it's drawings, then u need not worry, coz we will know ur ability to draw during the drawing test right before the interview. but if ur creativity is non-drawing, then a portfolio of works is needed. again, not as a requirement, but to illustrate ur abilities.

but then again, u might not be able to draw under pressure. so take ur time producing whatever drawings u want. whatever u are comfortable with. dont try to kiss ass by drawing ONLY buildings. u'll be drawing buildings until u die after this, so give urself a break.



u should wear formal attire. the basic for guys is: shirt (not t-shirts), pants (preferrably no jeans), and shoes (no slippers/sandals or its variation). for gals, it's more flexible. u can wear technically anything u've seen any office worker wears.

however, u might wanna try to be a little outstanding. try a red blazer. or maybe spikey blonde hair like those Japan/Korean/Hongkong artists. be outstanding. be different. try a flourescent tie. something that will burn the image into the brains of the interviewer brows.gif

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huhuh...thnks for the explanation,azamiry. was at shock to know u have to bring ur drawings...cz...i dun really draw nice pics!!

so,anything showing ur creativity will do eh?? i see..

Hopefully can make it trough the interview..well,lets just see..

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oh... and another thing. creativity does not include taking nude pictures of ur girlfriend(s) using mobilephone camera. if digital SLR can laaa...
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 4 2007, 11:25 PM)
oh... and another thing. creativity does not include taking nude pictures of ur girlfriend(s) using mobilephone camera. if digital SLR can laaa...
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aaa......thats a 'scary' creativity.

hahaah!!
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 4 2007, 10:37 PM)
sorry, earlier i meant to say "work sample is a must", not drawing samples. the portfolio consists of art-related works, or stuff that illustrates ur level of creativity or innovation. examples of non-drawing portfolio that i've seen:
    i. pictures of murals on school walls, grafitti etc.
    ii. samples of magazine covers (using desktop publishing softwares)
    iii. image editings
    iv. pictures of handycrafts (kad raya, bookmarks, stickers etc)
    v. costume designs (cosplay)


but it is not actually required. we need to know ur level of creativity. if it's drawings, then u need not worry, coz we will know ur ability to draw during the drawing test right before the interview. but if ur creativity is non-drawing, then a portfolio of works is needed. again, not as a requirement, but to illustrate ur abilities.

but then again, u might not be able to draw under pressure. so take ur time producing whatever drawings u want. whatever u are comfortable with. dont try to kiss ass by drawing ONLY buildings. u'll be drawing buildings until u die after this, so give urself a break.
u should wear formal attire. the basic for guys is: shirt (not t-shirts), pants (preferrably no jeans), and shoes (no slippers/sandals or its variation). for gals, it's more flexible. u can wear technically anything u've seen any office worker wears.

however, u might wanna try to be a little outstanding. try a red blazer. or maybe spikey blonde hair like those Japan/Korean/Hongkong artists. be outstanding. be different. try a flourescent tie. something that will burn the image into the brains of the interviewer  brows.gif
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so u mean i can sketch anything i like? COOL! how many sketches do i need to show em? minimum?

the shirt u mean is long sleeve or short sleeve? is short sleeve acceptable? the kind of shirt where the folds touch the elbow can be folded, and some even have striking dragons or images imprinted on them, are they acceptable?

so a tie is optional lah? hmm.gif

I LOL at the last point! laugh.gif

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oh o...
result is coming out soon n time to decide is getting shorter~

aza,
i once remember that u told us b4 that the chances of getting sponsor from jpa in this field is very slim. how slim izit?
if theres some1 so frekin lucky get sponsored by them, should she/he accept it? ( i mean izzit worth it for the 10 years bond?.... wat will we work as after studying?...)
then.. will the uni they send u to is accredited by lan n pam?

carrielyn-
thanks for the info bout the AA, its seems like a cool place but isit hard to get in there?
do u aim there after u're foudnation in taylors?
aza- u said that one diplomma student have a chance to get a place in AA rite?... is he/she fully sponsored?

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QUOTE(europology @ Mar 5 2007, 01:10 AM)
so u mean i can sketch anything i like? COOL! how many sketches do i need to show em? minimum?

the shirt u mean is long sleeve or short sleeve? is short sleeve acceptable? the kind of shirt where the folds touch the elbow can be folded, and some even have striking dragons or images imprinted on them, are they acceptable?

so a tie is optional lah?  hmm.gif
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minimum sketch, i'd say... five. make it diverse. i mean, dont just draw figures. illustrate ur full spectrum of capabilities. colours would be nice. if u over-rajin (read: kiasu), scan ur artwork and print it. bring original as well. sometimes the interviewer might be impressed that he'd wanna take a sample of ur work to reinforce ur chances.

this one boy was really gila one, he already printed his works on a postcard. then gave us a bunch lol. he got in, but declined, got offered UM or UiTM instead. what a waste.

short sleeves is acceptable. tie is optional, but just bring a spare. we (the interviewer) dont really mind ties as long as u look presentable. but sometimes the officers (nonlecturers) incharge of the entire session might make a fuss. images should be okay. i mean, i interpret baju batik as a shirt full of images... u see?

some didnt know what to wear, they just wore school uniforms. it's really safelah.

QUOTE(sleep_walkerz @ Mar 5 2007, 01:20 AM)
oh o...
result is coming out soon n time to decide is getting shorter~

aza,
i once remember that u told us b4 that the chances of getting sponsor from jpa in this field is very slim. how slim izit?
if theres some1 so frekin lucky get sponsored by them, should she/he accept it? ( i mean izzit worth it for the 10 years bond?.... wat will we work as after studying?...)
then.. will the uni they send u to is accredited by lan n pam?
quite slim actually. maybe 3-4 person per 100 architecture students. i dont really know the numbers. but PTPTN is ur best bet. it's sure to get one. JPA is now concentrating to sponsor students abroad rather than in msia.

IF u were offered, JPA scholarships usually comes with different requirements. some require ur service for about 5 years. some requires u to work at a specific sector. u will still be working as an architect, just a matter of where. usually, as soon as u graduated (if u're required to serve for a period of years), apply for a job at a government sector. easiest would be JKR. lots of architects working there (well more like goyang kaki) finishing off their contract. others include local authorities, lecturing, school teaching, civil services (polis, bomba etc)... u pick.

u will only be offered scholarships if u're already studying in an accredited institution. no tolerance there.

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nope. she's self sponsored. the other one got partially loan for the fees only.
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anybody knows what is interior architecture? I've checked several sources and i still don't get what it is. is it interior design incorporates with architecture? so i still don't get.
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azarimy...

Nah, I think i'll go with accountancy. Sounds dead dull to most people, but I've always wanted to work in a business/corporate setting and it sounds like a good way to start.

Good luck to all the architects though.

And btw, that looks more like penis... whoever commissioned that building is either

1) Stupid

2) Runs a porno company

3) Employed his talentless brother as the architect

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i have explained several pages before on interior architecture i think. anyways...

interior architecture, also known as interior design, is a specific subset of architecture that concentrates on the interior of a building. ID focuses on the interior detailing, design, layout, material, wiring, piping and other stuffs. although an architect is qualified enough to do interior works, they dont have the time to meticulously go through every aspect of a building, for example, what brand of furniture to use, what colour would the curtains be, or what kinda wattage should the lights use.

ID people however, are not qualified to design buildings. there's a specific requirement of what can and cannot be done by ID, but i cant remember what.

ID will almost always work under the architect on a project, unless it's a rennovation, refurbishment or conservation project.


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QUOTE(verticalforce @ Mar 5 2007, 03:33 AM)
azarimy...

Nah, I think i'll go with accountancy. Sounds dead dull to most people, but I've always wanted to work in a business/corporate setting and it sounds like a good way to start.

Good luck to all the architects though.

And btw, that looks more like penis... whoever commissioned that building is either

1) Stupid

2) Runs a porno company

3) Employed his talentless brother as the architect

whistling.gif
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well, u can read more about the building here.

it's owned by the barcelona water company. apparently when i took the pic it was half completed.

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