bridgestone, u're interested in archi too?

This post has been edited by europology: Feb 14 2007, 01:56 AM

ohh sorry- thanks a lot ^^!!!
if you're taking LOAN means you hvta pay back by yourselves or parents?

europology ,
i am in LimKokWing now . interested lah ... u dont know meh ? classmate also dunno .

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Added on February 14, 2007, 6:45 pmmy advise is to go to STPM provided u are not willing to spend much .
taylors is kinda expensive , same to limkokwing .
but for limkokwing , u can save RM17K just for skipping foundation and their requirement to skip it is simply easy to skip .
for taylors , u can skip for 1 semester only . but on the brighter side is , STPM does let you learn more , knowledge u nver need to use , but u will be more understanding with the stuff of the surroundings .

This post has been edited by BridgestoneRE711: Feb 14 2007, 06:45 PM

correction, taylor's doesnt require u to go through foundation to study diploma in architecture. it's the same if u take diploma in architectural technology (non-part 1) in LUCT.

the_aki: it doesnt really matter who pays back the loan, as long as JPA gets it back. if u're good child, then u pay them back when u start working. if u wanna be a prick, then dont pay back, and ur parents cant, they'll declare ur parents bankcrupt. easy lah.

Can I still apply to study UTM's Diploma of Architecture now? By what methods because I'm clueless. A friend of mine already applied to enter one of UTM's diploma programme thru school counsellor. But I wasn't aware about it that time, therefore I have no idea how can I apply.

u can apply using the online UPU application. it should be under program pengajian diploma (PPD) UTM KL.

If I were to sum up for non-bumiputra, the likely destination to study architecture with Part 1 & 2 is UTM, in Malaysia apparently. Is it possible to perform a credit transfer to study abroad after obtaining the diploma? I'm referring to UTM's.

i. for architecture, as far as i'm concerned other than UiTM, all IPTAs are open to upto 50% non-bumi. that's basically half bumi, half non-bumi. even if the number varies, it shouldnt be more than 60% bumi. which to sum up, non-bumi choices for architecture (for part 1 and 2) in IPTAs are UTM, UM and USM.

ii. yes, UTM diploma have long standing reputation especially in UK and aussie universities. but it entirely depends on how u score on critical subjects. the more As u score during diploma, the more credits u can transfer. the amount and category of subjects to be exempted varies from universities, so it is dealt as case-by-case basis.

Thank you very much, azarimy. I'd like to use my actual examination results to apply, if I'm not mistaken the deadline is 10 days after the release of results correct? I hope it won't be too late.

If I had known about this forum about 3 or 4 years ago....I might have been studying architecture now.

oh its never too late to start.

some people had their 'callings' quite late. but that didnt stop them from becoming famous architects.

Architecture is SeniBina, right? And where does UTM do their architecture program? Is it at the main campus in Skudai or at the City Campus in KL?

yes, senibina is BM for architecture, and sometimes spelled as seni bina. tehnically the same thing.

UTM's main school of architecture is in skudai, where they run the architectural degree, masters and phd programmes. UTM KL is just for the diploma in architecture programme.

azarimy,

I need your advice here. I'm waitin for my SPM result now, so currently I have 2 choices. Whether continue my study through Matriks or IPTA.

I prefer to get into IPTA (diploma) and my first desirable course would be Architectural.

Which uni should I take? UiTM or UTM? Which has the higher advantages?

from your statement I can summarize that UTM is foremost prominent than any other local uni that offers Diploma. But from what I've read since the first post in this thread:

UiTM > 4 years
UTM > 3 years

UiTM grads will automatically accredited with part 1, while UTM diploma is not. So can you elaborate more on this matter?

Ok lastly, what is the best option to continue our degree? Local uni or overseas? Cause from what I've seen most of student they continue their degree in overseas, Aussie is the famous one.

ur figures are correct. uitm 4 years, utm 3 years. with a part 1 diploma, u are qualified to work as an architect assistant, while with a non-part 1 diploma, u're a technical assistant at the most. job spec although similar, varies in responsibility and the range of projects that u can do. salary wise, not much different. architect assistant usually earns RM100-RM400 more than technical assistant.

but the catch is, not many firms are willing to differentiate between the two. to most, architect assistant and technical assistant is virtually the same. hence the common tendency to lump both together as one post. advantage for UTM dip holder is that even with a non-part 1 diploma, they'll be earning the same with an architect assistant.

but ofcourse, based on the year of study, UiTM diploma has more experience and practical knowledge than UTM diploma holders. this is especially true bcoz a 6 months practical programme is included in UiTM diploma, whereas in UTM, they'll only be doing their practical training during degree. UiTM diploma has also the added knowledge of hi-rise construction, whereas in UTM, hi-rise is an exclusive subject for the degree programme.

all in all, it boils down to cost+duration. UiTM is ofcourse one of the cheapest universities in the world. moreover, they're currently working on their RIBA accreditation, which would be sometime this year. UTM on the other hand would be expecting RIBA accreditation in 2-3 years time.


the reason why architecture students prefer to study abroad is not always bcoz overseas are better. it's the exposure to other architectures than malaysian is the most important part. those who studied architecture entirely overseas will miss the msian architecture scene, which would be hard for them to catch up once they come back. full local studies would mean u will have minimal exposure to other architectures other than what u see in books. so getting a taste of both worlds is currently the best course of study in architecture.

so why go to australia? coz it's cheaper than UK. why not go to other countries? coz of the language. why not go to US? coz of the different education system that makes it hard to transfer credits, hence adding more years of study unless u're there from 1st year.

i would really recommend all my students to study abroad after diploma/1st degree. UTM for example, have about 5-8 students continuing in the UK and about 10 to australia annually.

it is also important to know that msian architectural degree (part 2) is internationally accepted. dont let what's happening to other unfortunate courses blind u into seeing that msian architectural degrees are crap.

azarimy,
are u sure limkokwing's program has part 1 recognition?
oh yea, theres another route for luct
diploma(3 years)->1st degree(entry into 2nd year)->2nd degree(not offered by luct)

So I'm certainly will go with UiTM. Im not focusing to get a job soon after I finish my diploma.

well, LAN and LAM have accredited LUCT with part 1 based on batch of students. they will continue to do so until they grant LUCT full accreditation for part 1. look at it as pending part 1 recognition. based on other schools like UIAM, it should take them about a year or two to get the full recognition.

my current batch is approx 105 ppl. including me only 16 are non bumi. what gives?

This post has been edited by xtracooljustin: Feb 26 2007, 01:48 AM

u're in the 5 year batch now, right? the new system?

hell i dunno. when they were in 1st year, there were slightly more bumis, but i think the matrics:STPM ratio is about 50:50. how did it get down to 17? i have no idea. what happened to the rest of them? did u ask?