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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V3<<, The Journey Continues Here!

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sang_karim
post Feb 28 2007, 01:44 PM

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hehe..just bought the cooler master thermal compound....gonna apply it after work later....errr..how much to put on the proc?? now i know why rainingzero still got the paste after 1.5 years...hehe...maybe i'm gonna clean my heatsink frequently la....maybe once every month to get my thermal paste finish quickly...hehe.. drool.gif
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post Feb 28 2007, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Feb 28 2007, 01:44 PM)
hehe..just bought the cooler master thermal compound....gonna apply it after work later....errr..how much to put on the proc?? now i know why rainingzero still got the paste after 1.5 years...hehe...maybe i'm gonna clean my heatsink frequently la....maybe once every month to get my thermal paste finish quickly...hehe.. drool.gif
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Just paste little bit is more than enough.Have to remember that the paste will be putting under the heatzink,the paste will be squeezed flat. biggrin.gif Not very frequent that you need to replace your thermal paste unless you found it has dried.
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post Feb 28 2007, 03:34 PM

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ooo...the paste is put under the heatsink aaa?? not on the proc??? i tot put on the proc...then put the heatsink... doh.gif
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post Feb 28 2007, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Feb 28 2007, 03:34 PM)
ooo...the paste is put under the heatsink aaa?? not on the proc??? i tot put on the proc...then put the heatsink... doh.gif
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On the proc means under the heatzink. biggrin.gif The paste in just in between them. tongue.gif
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post Feb 28 2007, 04:57 PM

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aiya....silly me....how can i be so noob.... wink.gif


Added on February 28, 2007, 6:48 pmsomebody..help me...i just applying thermal paste to my proc and heat sink... after get it done...i want to start my pc as usual...then windows can't load... at monitor appear "Power Saving Mode" ... usually my friend told me to take of the power cable from psu to mobo and then put it back...i have done it and still the same...anybody knows why?? icon_question.gif

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post Feb 28 2007, 07:06 PM

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means that u might not sitted ur proc or heatsink properly....
try resit it again...

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post Feb 28 2007, 07:24 PM

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erm...no need to place it at both heatsink and proc. just apply a thin layer at the proc will be just fine..."power saving mode"???dunno why, never having this kind of prob...anybody can help here?? just try to pull off both wire that connected to the mobo..
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post Feb 28 2007, 08:55 PM

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now i'm back into bussiness...hehe...just take off the proc and heatsink...it was ok...sit on the rite place...so i just repaste it back...take of couple of cable and reattach it back....wallah.... rclxm9.gif now i'm back.....my current cpu temp is 44C rite now thumbup.gif dunno how to describe the idle and full load temperature....now i can start to oc my presshot... rclxms.gif
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post Feb 28 2007, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Feb 28 2007, 08:33 AM)
if just the fan dying, maybe replace the fan is enough. smile.gif
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hmmm, but hard to find a good fan leh

QUOTE(rainingzero @ Feb 28 2007, 12:11 PM)
thermalright xp90 got forumer sell at garage sells.good heatsink for s478.there's also quite a lot of s478 cooler out there....s478 still survived untill now man!!!
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i want new wor
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post Mar 1 2007, 12:44 AM

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guys...i just try to oc my presshot....i change the cpu clock to 154 but at cpuz shows my FSB at 160 ... i dunno why....i think this is the stable setting for now as it don restart again ... dunno la wether it will restart if i left my pc later...wanna run prime95 .. then i dunno how to use super pi...anyone care to tell??? wink.gif ....this is my screenie.... any comments are wellcome....very2 noob in ocing.... hehe.. tq... rclxms.gif

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*Just run the SP2004 for few minutes already beeping...hehe...i got panic, click the stop button and windows got restart.... hehe laugh.gif now the FSB was rite.... at 153.2 Mhz .. so...what should i do now?? need to run more test??

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post Mar 1 2007, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Feb 28 2007, 08:55 PM)
now i'm back into bussiness...hehe...just take off the proc and heatsink...it was ok...sit on the rite place...so i just repaste it back...take of couple of cable and reattach it back....wallah.... rclxm9.gif now i'm back.....my current cpu temp is 44C rite now  thumbup.gif  dunno how to describe the idle and full load temperature....now i can start to oc my presshot...  rclxms.gif
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to test the load temp, just fire up SP2004 and see the temp goes up. The max temp is the load temp. For idle temp, just dont touch your computer there without running any program. read the temp.

Good work, keep it up. smile.gif

QUOTE(kcng @ Feb 28 2007, 11:13 PM)
hmmm, but hard to find a good fan leh
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there are some bulk for fans at bulk section if you are looking for good fans.

if you want to buy a new HFS, try get a better HFS instead. lowend hfs just same or a bit better than stock.

QUOTE(sang_karim @ Mar 1 2007, 12:44 AM)
guys...i just try to oc my presshot....i change the  cpu clock to 154 but at cpuz shows my FSB at 160 ... i dunno why....i think this is the stable setting for now as it don restart again ... dunno la wether it will restart if i left my pc later...wanna run prime95 .. then i dunno how to use super pi...anyone care to tell???  wink.gif ....this is my screenie.... any comments are wellcome....very2 noob in ocing.... hehe.. tq... rclxms.gif

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*Just run the SP2004 for few minutes already beeping...hehe...i got panic, click the stop button and windows got restart.... hehe  laugh.gif now the FSB was rite.... at 153.2 Mhz .. so...what should i do now?? need to run more test??
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few minutes then beeping? not stable la, my friend. Ever face sudden restart or BSOD when doing your work??
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err..what BSOD bro??? sweat.gif at first....before i'm running sp2004...i don restart for about 45 minute ... then when i run sp2004 ... i go to toilet for a while...then red sign with stop appear...so i click stop and then windows restart ... so.. what's ur suggestion?? have to lower my cpu clock?? sweat.gif
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BSOD = Blue Screen of death
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post Mar 1 2007, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Mar 1 2007, 11:54 AM)
err..what BSOD bro???  sweat.gif  at first....before i'm running sp2004...i don restart for about 45 minute ... then when i run sp2004 ... i go to toilet for a while...then red sign with stop appear...so i click stop and then windows restart ... so.. what's ur suggestion?? have to lower my cpu clock??  sweat.gif
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you try read the fundamental of oc in oc united. there are step by step guide. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kcng @ Feb 28 2007, 11:13 PM)
hmmm, but hard to find a good fan leh
i want new wor
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Rlhh have new Thermalright XP 90 for sale. But if you are looking for a cheap and nice heatsink. Probably you can go for Scythe Andy Samurai Master like the one I am using now. Nice and only costs RM165 from lowyat forum.

QUOTE(sang_karim @ Mar 1 2007, 11:54 AM)
err..what BSOD bro???  sweat.gif  at first....before i'm running sp2004...i don restart for about 45 minute ... then when i run sp2004 ... i go to toilet for a while...then red sign with stop appear...so i click stop and then windows restart ... so.. what's ur suggestion?? have to lower my cpu clock??  sweat.gif
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There is alot of factor that will cause that.

1. What is your processor Temp? If too high, get a better cooler.

2. Probably your ram is not good enough for OC.

3. PSU not supplying enough juice to your system.
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rite now i'm still running sp2004...it just running for 1 hour...proc running at 2663Mhz and FSB at 148Mhz ... gonna wait n see if this is the stable condition ... wink.gif

*aiyakk....the stop sign come again...gonna low the FSB again... doh.gif

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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Mar 1 2007, 09:17 PM)
rite now i'm still running sp2004...it just running for 1 hour...proc running at 2663Mhz and FSB at 148Mhz ... gonna wait n see if this is the stable condition ...  wink.gif

*aiyakk....the stop sign come again...gonna low the FSB again... doh.gif
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probably the problem dont lies at your processor but other parts like PSU or Ram
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post Mar 1 2007, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(sang_karim @ Mar 1 2007, 09:17 PM)
rite now i'm still running sp2004...it just running for 1 hour...proc running at 2663Mhz and FSB at 148Mhz ... gonna wait n see if this is the stable condition ...  wink.gif

*aiyakk....the stop sign come again...gonna low the FSB again... doh.gif
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with your proc stepping and temp. oc at that speed should be a piece of cake. Like what irangan said, PSU may cause instability issue. Is the vcore flunctuate when load??
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Mar 1 2007, 11:10 PM)
with your proc stepping and temp. oc at that speed should be a piece of cake. Like what irangan said, PSU may cause instability issue. Is the vcore flunctuate when load??
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oic...maybe la...i'm just using KVR with PCS chipset...dunno what brand of the PSU but at my receipt stated 480W .... flunctuate?? sweat.gif what is that aaa?? u mean keep changing aaa?? don't notice plak...maybe i check it later la... wanna sleep ler... here the fail screenie... wink.gif

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Hmmm...for your case, use 1:1 ratio for ur CPU and DRAM. PSC IC chips cannot scale high so 4:5 is out of the question.

There are several factors which can contribute into BSODs :

1) CPU - frequency too high/voltage too low, but in ur case, stock voltage shouldn't be a problem, so skip, just note the temperature.

2) Mofset (PWM) - if the temp of ur PWM is too high, it will restart. Take note too.

3) RAM ( timings, frequency, voltage as well as the ratio) - in your case, probably the RAM doesn't like 4:5 ratio. Another thing which can trigger failure in your SP2004 is your memory chips itself having errors or increase your Vdimm to stabilise it. Another way is to use 1:1 instead of 4:5.

4) Irregular voltage supplied - better to invest on a reliable PSU. Flunctuations too can be caused by unreliable PSUs as well as your mobo. Throughout my experience, ASUS boards too suffer from major Vcore flunctuations during full load. Take note of that too.

5) PCI/AGP option - Its best to lock it to the default specification of 33Mhz for PCI and 66Mhz for AGP. If your mobo doesn't have this option, I am sorry that your OC experience will be limited and you will get random lockups and BSODs due to your other hardware can't cope up with the frequency.


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