hey bro, sorry to have offended you, just wanna clarify that I never said anything about stupidity, etc, or purposely 'spam' to gain post count, i just got carried away in stating my personal opinions. never meant any disrespect. will stick to thread title next time. no hard feelings, k? i will b more sensitive in future postings.

Just wanna add, I do believe current mid range to high end AGP cards are able to breathe in new life for our s478 rig, or to extend the capabilities of our rig. That's why I got myself a 7600GS AGP for my P4 3.06Ghz in the first place. 

Anyway, back to the s478 topic, here is an interesting temperature chart taken from xbitlabs with P4 HT enabled and disabled, and found an increase in temp when HT disabled (especially in idle mode).



more detailed info on the following site for reading pleasure,  just wanna share it with all the s478 enthusiasts here. I wonder if the result also reflects the users that have non HT P4 cpu? 

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/p4-temp.html

many reported decrease of few fps with HT on, I think due to reserved cpu cycles for other process. Even HT on, you are still on one CPU, only 'virtually' OS detected 2 cpu.

simple experiment is run a 3d game and one mp3 ripper/dvd encoding at the same time. Sure still lag...

Hmm....something new to know. mean more vcore it cooler? mine normally reported higher in cpuz like i set 1.5 it show 1.55+- then fluatuated when stress it. Normally it will drop around the vcore i set in bios +-

just back from pikom. Really upset, almost nothing new there. Bought a 19" lcd and just set up. now set mine to stock speed. a bit slow and the temp is almost the same as i run at 3.2GHz.

hey guys im back raymond5105 i wanna ask u ur hynix ram is double sided or single?

hmmm cuz i just bought my hynix rams i bought 1gb 512mb x2 but its single sided it still cant do fsb ratio 1:1 it can reach 230mhz but after 1 day it restarts..can ya like tell me whats the prob acctually the old rams cant even reach fsb ratio 1:1

i thought pcmark05 is different with 3dmark05. Confuse already.

@fylon
actually with 300MHz oc dont really can feel the different. if you benchmark or running heavy program then you will notice it slightly faster than stock like loading time, responsiveness etc.

Hi all,i'm newcomer here.
my specs:
P4 Northwood 2.4C HT @ 2.53Ghz FSB 210Mhz with stock Vcore and cooling
512*2 Kingston DDR 333 at 2.5-3.3.7 @stock
MSI Neo 2 865 PE
MSI GeForce 5600 128Mb DDR OC@ 357/605
Chaplang PSU 450W

i'm so envious of u all. i dunno how to raise the CPU multiplier like u guys

i'm an MSI mobo user,i found out tht its hard to overclock and performance only so so.when it POST it sometimes stuck at MSI logo screen for sometimes and i need CTRL+ALT+DEL.same wif one of my fren.both of us were using MSI NEO2 865 PE.

i do agree tht ASUS mobo is good for overclocking during my experience wif my S370 Pentium3.even wif stock config,the mobo has already overclocked ur processor and RAM  by a small margin.thts y ppl say ASUS board has good performance. but then during the time i bought my P4 rig,only MSI has 8X AGP support mobo in my area.i'm was staying in Ipoh back then.thts y i bought MSI.

anyways, u guys think such device call "Auto Voltage Regulator" will help abt voltage fluctuations?

for what i think is that avr only stabilize the current from socket to psu. psu and mobo also play important part in this issue. crap psu or mobo may fluctuate especially then more voltage than stock is apply especially when oc. 

raymond5105, your house current having problem??

no la, i mean obvious current not table. My area some time can notice quite obvious, especially you can feel suddenly the light turn dull a bit then back to normal, sometime even worse that it dull for few seconds.   Lucky i have avr that my pc doesnt down follow the current. What to do, my area is categorized as 'senior citizen'.

if want really safe, get good avr, plug to good ups, then to true power branded psu with highend solid cap mobo. Everything will be fine then.

ok.now i wanna confirm wif u guys wat RAM i hv.i've 2 pieces of RAM here

the oldest on is written on chip:

hynix  319A
HY5DU56822BT-J

the newer one is written on chip:

Kingston D3208DH1T-6
0339PT05

so how much can i do actually?can reach 250Mhz on RAM?currently 225Mhz running stable.

BT-J and D43 is the same, just that BT-J for DDR333 and D43 for DDR400 and performance DDR500 rams

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Added on April 19, 2007, 1:25 amTesting my proc at 3.52Ghz and priming, and boy this proc really needs a lot of voltage to stabilise.....

raymond,can u tell me how u manage to clock ur northwood so high?u using 5:4 divider or 1:1?wats ur RAM freq currently at wat Vdimm?and proc Vcore how much u can go?

i'm quite puzzled here.currently i pushed my 2.4C to 2.81 already at 233Mhz FSB at 1:1 divider.Vcore 1.55,Vdimm 2.6.currently very stable.i tried pushing my FSB to 240 but the heat goes up 5 degrees at least when idle.anyway it wasn't stable.den tonight i tried 1.565 Vcore ,FSB at  250, Vdimm at 2.8.running 1:1.it can POST but stucked at Windows XP welcome screen.  i think my PSU is the culprit here.normally i've Vcore fluctuations between 1.488 -1.536 at idle.

kabukiawie,do u play C&C3 tiberium wars?if u do play,den can it run at 'High' settings wif ur 7300GT smoothly?i'm quite interested in getting a 7300GT also.but do it require the usage of a 12V power from the PSU for AGP version?

i saw ur second rig wif a hynix BT-J,y dun u try put it in ur main rig and push it higher.mine can easily hit 233Mhz at 2.6Vdimm.i tot D-43 is supposed to be same as BT-J ?ur RAM shud be able to push higher.Mine is still under burn-in test for a few days more.make ur timing 3-4-4-8 den try go higher, i quite interested to see wat u can do since u've a 3rd party cooling for ur proc.

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Added on April 20, 2007, 6:38 pm

Northwood stock Vcore supposed to be at 1.525 isn't it? u pushed to 1.775..!!i was like OMG    i read somewhre inside dis forum tht northwood max shud be at 1.6V at most only. if not,the proc cant last long.