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 INTEL P4/PM 478/479 THREAD, >>V3<<, The Journey Continues Here!

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post Apr 11 2007, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Apr 11 2007, 12:02 AM)
Pengster, your MSI mobo is more stable than current p4p800x? i wonder that all 865 mobo having this issue. sometime i have to stress the cpu the get the exact vcore reading. idle vcore reading is crazy high. i set at 1.5v it sometime can up to 1.6v in cpuz. rclxub.gif

Last time i blame on cpuz reading is inaccurate but mbm5 return me almost the same result. but anyway, system is stable. Just i dont really feel nice as i know that fluctuate voltage is harmful to all components in pc. hmm.gif
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same here lah.idle the vcore goes up and down like mad laugh.gif

if i remembered correctly i think my msi mobo was more stable then my this asus. unsure.gif

QUOTE(k!nex @ Apr 11 2007, 01:11 AM)
i'm an MSI mobo user,i found out tht its hard to overclock and performance only so so.when it POST it sometimes stuck at MSI logo screen for sometimes and i need CTRL+ALT+DEL.same wif one of my fren.both of us were using MSI NEO2 865 PE.

i do agree tht ASUS mobo is good for overclocking during my experience wif my S370 Pentium3.even wif stock config,the mobo has already overclocked ur processor and RAM  by a small margin.thts y ppl say ASUS board has good performance. but then during the time i bought my P4 rig,only MSI has 8X AGP support mobo in my area.i'm was staying in Ipoh back then.thts y i bought MSI.

anyways, u guys think such device call "Auto Voltage Regulator" will help abt voltage fluctuations?
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hmm..last time when i was using the Neo2V i could easily oc from 2.4Ghz to 2.8Ghz without any changes in vcore/vdimm/timings etc. laugh.gif

now this P4P is quite good also lah just that have to find the sweet spot. smile.gif
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post Apr 11 2007, 09:49 PM

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Lol.. Guys, got a question. Just hit my 3.0E to 3.4. Prime for 25hrs no error stated. Count OC success. Kinda happy. laugh.gif Just wander, is time to touch the ram by now? Or just let it be at the current speed? currently running at 2.5-3-3-6. Whats the different with tighten the ram and lossen it?
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post Apr 11 2007, 10:14 PM

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i think you just push till it not stable then slowly reduce down. Get your max bootable speed, then test the stability. if fail then reduce down. as for timing, i would say that get the loosest like 3-3-3-8. Once you reach the highest stable speed, tighten up the timing. tongue.gif better read from the pinned thread in oc united there. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 11 2007, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Apr 11 2007, 01:11 AM)
i'm an MSI mobo user,i found out tht its hard to overclock and performance only so so.when it POST it sometimes stuck at MSI logo screen for sometimes and i need CTRL+ALT+DEL.same wif one of my fren.both of us were using MSI NEO2 865 PE.

i do agree tht ASUS mobo is good for overclocking during my experience wif my S370 Pentium3.even wif stock config,the mobo has already overclocked ur processor and RAM  by a small margin.thts y ppl say ASUS board has good performance. but then during the time i bought my P4 rig,only MSI has 8X AGP support mobo in my area.i'm was staying in Ipoh back then.thts y i bought MSI.

anyways, u guys think such device call "Auto Voltage Regulator" will help abt voltage fluctuations?
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Good questions,i'm also looking for this answer.AVR can regulate the voltage first before sending in to our PSU.Stable voltage can let the PSU deliver better supplies to our deivces,but don't know is there anyone here using the AVR or not.
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QUOTE(fylon @ Apr 11 2007, 09:49 PM)
Lol.. Guys, got a question. Just hit my 3.0E to 3.4. Prime for 25hrs no error stated. Count OC success. Kinda happy. laugh.gif Just wander, is time to touch the ram by now? Or just let it be at the current speed? currently running at 2.5-3-3-6. Whats the different with tighten the ram and lossen it?
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Before I answer your question base on RAMs, I would like to ask you what ICs are there in your RAM module? ICs as in the memory chips used

Not to sound rude by answering a question with a question smile.gif
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Apr 11 2007, 10:14 PM)
i think you just push till it not stable then slowly reduce down. Get your max bootable speed, then test the stability. if fail then reduce down. as for timing, i would say that get the loosest like 3-3-3-8. Once you reach the highest stable speed, tighten up the timing. tongue.gif better read from the pinned thread in oc united there. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Haha. Yea.. I do read the pinned thread. But just for make sure then i asked here once agian. Sorry if causing inconvenience. Im still noob. icon_rolleyes.gif Usually, i did in the way with push the FSB to certain limit then log into the windows. Run stability test and see as if the system is error free or not. As if got error then i reduce back the speed. Cause im now only have 1 mobo with me, backup were sent to RMA. So i take safety way to OC my system. laugh.gif Make sure i rigs still got life to spent before the backup back from RMA.

QUOTE(shinjite @ Apr 11 2007, 10:32 PM)
Before I answer your question base on RAMs, I would like to ask you what ICs are there in your RAM module? ICs as in the memory chips used

Not to sound rude by answering a question with a question smile.gif
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Its ok. smile.gif About the ram chip ICs, i still not so sure about it. But will check it out after i off the pc tonite. The information about the chips are important interm of OC the ram right? I did my homework in learning about OC. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Apr 11 2007, 10:18 PM)
Good questions,i'm also looking for this answer.AVR can regulate the voltage first before sending in to our PSU.Stable voltage can let the PSU deliver better supplies to our deivces,but don't know is there anyone here using the AVR or not.
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i am using 1. i think around 5years still serve me well. smile.gif it does stabilize the voltage as my area the current not that stable.

QUOTE(fylon @ Apr 11 2007, 10:39 PM)
Haha. Yea.. I do read the pinned thread. But just for make sure then i asked here once agian. Sorry if causing inconvenience. Im still noob. icon_rolleyes.gif Usually, i did in the way with push the FSB to certain limit then log into the windows. Run stability test and see as if the system is error free or not. As if got error then i reduce back the speed. Cause im now only have 1 mobo with me, backup were sent to RMA. So i take safety way to OC my system. laugh.gif Make sure i rigs still got life to spent before the backup back from RMA.
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everyone having their own way to oc. Guide provided is just as a tutorial. Once you get used to it then you will having your own way of oc and testing it. I am still learning. Just know bit bit nia. Also dont have much experience with those highend stuffs.
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QUOTE(fylon @ Apr 11 2007, 10:39 PM)
Haha. Yea.. I do read the pinned thread. But just for make sure then i asked here once agian. Sorry if causing inconvenience. Im still noob. icon_rolleyes.gif Usually, i did in the way with push the FSB to certain limit then log into the windows. Run stability test and see as if the system is error free or not. As if got error then i reduce back the speed. Cause im now only have 1 mobo with me, backup were sent to RMA. So i take safety way to OC my system. laugh.gif Make sure i rigs still got life to spent before the backup back from RMA.
Its ok. smile.gif About the ram chip ICs, i still not so sure about it. But will check it out after i off the pc tonite. The information about the chips are important interm of OC the ram right? I did my homework in learning about OC. laugh.gif
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Yup, if can state the brand and code there, then we can find out what chips the RAM is using, because different chips operate differently in OCing, some sucks until I got no comments on it smile.gif
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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Apr 11 2007, 10:18 PM)
Good questions,i'm also looking for this answer.AVR can regulate the voltage first before sending in to our PSU.Stable voltage can let the PSU deliver better supplies to our deivces,but don't know is there anyone here using the AVR or not.
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im currently using an AVR too..a really old one.i think its 2 or 3 years old already laugh.gif

and im not even sure if it works to stablize the voltage.vcore still jumps alot due to the mobo.
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AVR only stabilizes the voltage incoming from the main powerplugs to our PSU, that's all. Won't assist in the oc. smile.gif i also use one olivetti AVR, i think around 10 years+ using it, still rock solid. thumbup.gif

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post Apr 12 2007, 10:16 PM

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Thanks guys.I think that the direct current supply from TNB is always lower than its' rated one,guess later might get one of them to regulate the supply before goes into PSU there.
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post Apr 12 2007, 10:56 PM

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for what i think is that avr only stabilize the current from socket to psu. psu and mobo also play important part in this issue. crap psu or mobo may fluctuate especially then more voltage than stock is apply especially when oc.

raymond5105, your house current having problem??
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Apr 12 2007, 10:56 PM)
for what i think is that avr only stabilize the current from socket to psu. psu and mobo also play important part in this issue. crap psu or mobo may fluctuate especially then more voltage than stock is apply especially when oc. 

raymond5105, your house current having problem??
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This one i am not sure,but i think that the current provide must have +/- one.Got no idea how to check it out.Danger to use multimeter to check. sweat.gif
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hey guys do u noe wat software i can use to test the stability of my pc..my fren told me to use prime 86 or 88 not sure wat software is that..so anyone out there can help me out for this software to test my pc stability..thx in advanced
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Prime95/SP2004 is a thing of the past, get Orthos straight smile.gif
Stress with priority 9, if can pass 24 hours, you're good tongue.gif

Other softwares would be:
1) SuperPI - if dual core, run 2 instances of 32MB Pi. Test both CPU and RAM
2) Memtest86/86+ - recommended for RAMs, if OCed, try looping test #5 and #7
3) Memtest for Windows - its also recommended, you wouldn't want it to have errors in Windows, would ya? smile.gif
4) OCCT - Considered to be quite a stressful program (not for me though), as usual, test both CPU and RAM with high priority
5) Folding@Gromacs test (Orthos) - Considered by me the most stressful test for the CPU. Try priority 9 and let it run smile.gif
6) 3DMark (any version) - Loop test for RAM 3d stability and GPU stability

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QUOTE(raymond5105 @ Apr 13 2007, 02:41 PM)
This one i am not sure,but i think that the current provide must have +/- one.Got no idea how to check it out.Danger to use multimeter to check. sweat.gif
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no la, i mean obvious current not table. My area some time can notice quite obvious, especially you can feel suddenly the light turn dull a bit then back to normal, sometime even worse that it dull for few seconds. doh.gif Lucky i have avr that my pc doesnt down follow the current. What to do, my area is categorized as 'senior citizen'. sweat.gif

if want really safe, get good avr, plug to good ups, then to true power branded psu with highend solid cap mobo. Everything will be fine then. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(dj2004 @ Apr 13 2007, 05:58 PM)
hey guys do u noe wat software i can use to test the stability of my pc..my fren told me to use prime 86 or 88 not sure wat software is that..so anyone out there can help me out for this software to test my pc stability..thx in advanced
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Have you been tried PCMARK?
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Apr 13 2007, 11:42 PM)
no la, i mean obvious current not table. My area some time can notice quite obvious, especially you can feel suddenly the light turn dull a bit then back to normal, sometime even worse that it dull for few seconds. doh.gif  Lucky i have avr that my pc doesnt down follow the current. What to do, my area is categorized as 'senior citizen'. sweat.gif

if want really safe, get good avr, plug to good ups, then to true power branded psu with highend solid cap mobo. Everything will be fine then. biggrin.gif
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Wao cool,your light in the area will be dull for a few seconds ? sweat.gif sweat.gif Really dangerous,the worst case i met before was just 1s maximum.

@serewen,PC mark is more stressful on the CPU in most test.But if the memory timing tuned is not suitable then will also causing restart too.
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what kind of ram is good for INTEL P4 2.0 with best speed?
can i add 512ram+1gb ram =1512?
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