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post Apr 4 2016, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(SteadyPana @ Apr 4 2016, 11:16 PM)
I've tested Celcom and Digi. Retained with Maxis. Why ? The best LTE coverage.

Almost 10 years with Maxis. Now on Surf More plan. Will attempt to try the special offer 😜
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4 of the big telco, maxis has the highest speed, even more than 40mbps.
But normal browsing, fbing, and instant messengers, 3G 4mbps is more than enough.

High speed is only useful for download, HD video streaming. But 5GB is just doh.gif

Time for all telco to release high quota plan and higher capped speed.

I believe the market want this now.
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post Apr 5 2016, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(analyzer85 @ Apr 5 2016, 01:41 AM)
Yea, sure, there's no such thing as a free lunch. It's just packaging/how you present the data.
I myself am not interested in signing any contract more than 12 months, so the offer was never tempting in the first place.
Surely your experience would differ from mine, and you're entitled to your opinion and I can respect that.
What I mentioned is purely based on my own experience, so surely its just a difference of opinion.

I don't blame you for thinking I'm a Maxis employee from the way my previous posting seemed that I am 'Pro-Maxis'.
I would say yes, using Maxis for so long has somewhat have an emotional attachment to it.
But let's get real, as I said, loyalty counts for nothing anymore.
At the end of the day, my pockets are slightly heavier by me moving to Celcom, though if I could've accepted the counter-offer, or should they have kept their promise on calling me back, I probably would've still been a Maxis subscriber.
Nevertheless, because of how Maxis is run and how they handled my case, they lost my business. I'm not angry about it. Disappointed and slightly upset, yes. Angry, no.
After all, it's not personal, it's business. My money just goes to Celcom instead of Maxis.

As regards to the Loyalty Department, I did question their CS when I called in. On the third call, I asked them how hard is it for you to transfer me to that department, and why must you email them instead of passing the line?

Under pressure, the Customer Care Consultant told me is because these people calling me are a 'contractor' of Maxis, and their job purely trying to retain their customers, and in no way are they Maxis employees.

Could she be lying to me? Sure, that's possible.

But if indeed it's true that these people calling us to retain them as Maxis customers, wouldn't all these complaints fit and explain how this situation unfolded?

Firstly, they call you with a public phone number, in my case the number was 03-2856 6000 (call out number only).
When I get callbacks for their service center, it's from the 123 line. This case, it was a public fixed line.

It's interesting as I noticed that the Maxis Customer Care Consultant kept asking me what deal I got. It's as if they don't know what "deal" or "offer" I'm getting. I didn't give them an answer, only mentioning that I'm sure they know because there should be a lot of people calling in.

I feel this makes sense, because by having Maxis "outsource" this service ('loyalty department'), internal Maxis staff can't abuse this offer and give it to everyone they know, which was a problem before.

This would also explain why initially their Head of Marketing is fighting tooth and nail to defend Maxis. Perhaps when she found out what was happening, she just couldn't defend it anymore (and went on to delete her FB posts).

It's not beyond Maxis management to do this really. Think about it.

Maxis just deserves to get lashed because of this system they have adopted and the fact that they are slow to react to pricing war initiated by their competitors.
I agree completely. At the end of the day, consumers are the winners or losers in this.
Because more and more people are reacting to this, therefore Maxis has to do something about it.

Anyhow, I understand that Maxis is in the works to release a new plan come this Friday, 7th of April. We shall see what they have in store for us. However, I don't expect it to be cheaper than Celcom or Digi. If it really is cheaper, I'd be very surprised.

That all said, at least Maxis has somewhat an initiative to retain their customers. Though it's badly executed (and they probably have to go back to the drawing board on how they want to fix their image as a result of this), at least they do try to retain you.

I'm not so sure if Celcom/Digi/U-Mobile even bothers when you port out.
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Thanks for the clarification.
I don't suspect you are the maxis people until the outsourced thing.
As you said, everyone has different user experience. For the past few years, since MNP enabled, i always see peoples come and go. Maxis is quite confident to their network and service, and yes, many peoples ported out and ported in again because competitors plan not suitable to them(of course not the price problem, the quality). But also many customers turned away because they found the new package even suit them more, in their location.
Maxis doesn't have big advantage compare old time. If they insist to do business like this way, maybe they will fail soon or later. Their competitors really improved a lot, and they are not perfect too.
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post Apr 5 2016, 11:21 AM

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For those waiting cheap plan on 7th, please don't be disappointed.
Maxis never join the price war.

Since the situation goes like this, i best guess is:
Those 'loyal customers' will auto convert to the special plan.
Those new or not qualified customers will pay extra rm20-30 for special plan.
Maybe some freebies like spotify or something new will intro.
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post Apr 5 2016, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(pokemon @ Apr 5 2016, 12:36 PM)
Anyone here still got counter offer for porting out from Maxis?  I heard they have stopped call to offer special promotion price.
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I think no need wait for counter offer, i believe it will become official soon lol.
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post Apr 5 2016, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(izwanikhsan @ Apr 5 2016, 01:19 PM)
MAXIS reducing the price? Highly unlikely. I think they will increase the data on its current ONE plans.
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Upgrade quota is just same like revise the price.
Users just downgrade the plan which suit them.
It just gives more troubles to users. I scare this way will lead more angry customers lol. Just give users the worthy plan and let customers decide whether upgrade or stay.
Unless they are tied with contract.


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post Apr 5 2016, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(xxaa @ Apr 5 2016, 05:42 PM)
after replied the sms, they called to offer RM98, 5GB, unlimited calls/sms. duh what so special?!? i asked why some customers can get RM68 for 5GB, unlimited calls/sms. he replied that's for "selected" customer. vmad.gif  vmad.gif  ranting.gif
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Actually maxis already gave us a clear message, the "selected" mean port out (Of course with some other factors like usage and payment record).

No need argue with the maxis operator. Sorry to say that they are just lower rank staffs. They have no power to make decision. They are following the standard procedures and guidelines. Without the "key", they can't make the counter for you. Since the key is port out, then port out. It will trigger their guideline to offer you now.
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post Apr 5 2016, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Apr 5 2016, 06:11 PM)
That is not ethical, but it isn't illegal. Just like the economy rice lady who charge more on certain days when she bad mood or maybe she racist so she charge others more. Or car salesman who might quote a higher price for richer customer but give more discount to another.

Again, it's not ethical ,but it isn't illegal.

I'm not defending it, just stating how the do business. But in today's social media, such practices are easier to share and backfire. So Maxis should have been more proactive instead of relying on old retention tactics, especially when dealing with good and old loyal customers. That's why this thing can go viral. In the past people just grumble and move on cos they don't know about the deals other people get.
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I believe all 3 telcos will counter offer to stay customers. Except umobile, i never listen they will offer special plan to stay someone, because they are already cheapest plan in the market.

But this time maxis is a bit over. 20-30% discount is acceptable. But now like 2-3x LOL. RM68 vs RM158.
If you say the targeted customer has 30 lines, then i have nothing to say, he maybe has bigger bargain power.
But it seems like not the case.

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post Apr 5 2016, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 5 2016, 06:41 PM)
digi n celcom counter offer with what plan?
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Usually just rebate RM10-20 or extra quota.
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post Apr 5 2016, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Apr 5 2016, 06:47 PM)
permanent?
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Last time my uncle digi port to umobile.
Digi called him and offer special plan, but i forgot the detail. But it is just slightly better plan, and comes with 1year contract.

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post Apr 5 2016, 07:08 PM

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High speed is just a gimmick, especially comes with 5GB quota.
Normal browsing won't use more than 5mbps.

40mbps, just the speedtest alone use 200mb.
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post Apr 5 2016, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Apr 5 2016, 08:45 PM)
I am one of those on contracts. And if they don't offer me something for nothing then I will pay my penalty and I will walk.
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I don't really like to tied contract with Malaysia telco. Rebate RM400~800 anything bad happen like now, walk away is double that amount.
I rather wait few months for the phone price drop. Unless you buy iphone.

Back to my experience, i tied contract with maxis 6years ago. After 6 months, my house 3G tower was down. Maxis said it is edge of the area, and they had no budget to increase it. Asked me get used to it.
I reported them to SKMM. Final outcome was, maxis need to rebate 50% of my bill until they fixed my problem or until contract ended.
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post Apr 6 2016, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(kc6012 @ Apr 5 2016, 11:25 PM)
Latest update

Previously I said they offer me 7GB for RM88 and unlimited call (another free 1GB for 6 months)

Today I feel quite angry as one of the cs scold my good friend as my friend try to get some offer. So just now I rang them a call, I tell them you give me 7GB only but some customer get 10GB for RM88.

Immediately they pass my line to higher level. After conversation, my offer will be

RM88 for 15GB Data plus free 1GB for next 6 months and another free 1GB for next 1 year.

Which means for next 6 months I will get 17GB, after 6 months I get 16GB, after 1 year I will get 15GB. I think this is the best offer I get so far
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Wow, I never see maxis can go low. It is just too good to be true.

Anyway, other peoples please don't use this as example to shoot maxis. It might be a real special case to have it. 15GB plan is double any other telco plan.( Don't include umobile that 15gb only last until june.)

Don't let maxis has an excuse to say it is exaggerated claim.
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post Apr 6 2016, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(kc6012 @ Apr 6 2016, 12:31 AM)
Never think can get such a great deal.
For me 7GB really not enough as I rely on data mostly, streamyx sucks for me. Just now chit chat with my friend, he told me his bad experience with stupid maxis CS.
So I feel pissed and just try to call in and try my luck
Who knows I get this.
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Congratulation, you pay RM88 for about RM400 plan lol(based on maxis calculation)
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post Apr 6 2016, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(unknowmaster @ Apr 6 2016, 08:51 AM)
So weird
Ported out yesterday to Digi, no calls from retaining yet. Maybe they stop calling...
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Port out is just the "key". You still need other factors for maxis reviews your acc. Such as commitment, payment record. And i heard that autodebit with credit card is an advantage too. They like customers with autodebit.

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post Apr 6 2016, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(angel-girl @ Apr 6 2016, 12:20 PM)
yes maxis do has this service. you can transfer your postpaid to prepaid 1st then transfer.
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I remember transfer to prepaid has cooling period, mean you cannot port out for some times.
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post Apr 6 2016, 06:02 PM

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Maxis should change the one plan name lol. I saw so many plans now, also comes with many prices too.
Change to loyal 68, unloyal 158.
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post Apr 6 2016, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Apr 6 2016, 06:03 PM)
They take the discounted amount given for the phone they gave you and divide over your contract tenure (12 or 24 months). Multiply by how many months of the contract left, add RM100 admin fee.

Simple example:-

Phone price discounted RM1200 for a 12 month contract. If you're 3 months into contract that leaves 9 months left (RM1200 / 12 x 9 = RM900).

RM900 + RM100 admin fee = RM1000.
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6 years ago, if i cancel the contract, i need to pay 500 if less than 1year, 1 to 2 year 1000.
And the phone only subsidized rm500.
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post Apr 6 2016, 06:57 PM

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Perhaps new choice.

http://www.malaysianwireless.com/2016/04/w...aunch-13-april/
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post Apr 7 2016, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(hongie @ Apr 7 2016, 08:35 AM)
Customer have to nego or fxck to get treated fairly, this is not fair
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Get used to it.
Every telco almost doing the same.
Just this time maxis is very over. Giving 10-20% discount is ok, but now is less than half price.
They don't want join the price war officially, and offer it silently, and get themselves backfire.

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post Apr 7 2016, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Mazda9 @ Apr 7 2016, 10:44 AM)
To be honest, I feel that there are battling with deep crisis. They have got attacked from all corners and that's why such drastic step was taken.. I have a strong confident that they will surely do something within 30 days.
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30 days is too late.
They must quicker than webe launch next week.

Every location usually covered by at least 2 networks consider OK.
If they choose the alternative, and find out that is acceptable, or sometimes maybe even better than maxis, they are done.

Maxis has the best coverage and speed, based on Opensignal stats, it is just 15% better. No point for paying the plan more than 2x price.
Somemore there are many phones have dual sim now, if i get any 2 celcom/umobile/digi, still cheaper and much more quota to spend.

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