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 Car Care & Detailing [V5], Caring for your car apprearance

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post Jul 10 2019, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(SilentForever @ Jul 10 2019, 01:53 PM)
Can I just use osren nano wash mix with water for clay lube? I try ask osren about the claybar since shopee a lot fake clay bars. And pipe water should be fine right, no need distilled water? Thanks guys.
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For clay lube, tap water is fine as long as got some filter. If u living in landed house and have that torpedo looking water filter outside then more than enough. If in condo then maybe your own drinking water is also good enough. Not necessary to use distilled water for clay lube, save it for maybe diluting IPA or something else.
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post Jul 11 2019, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Jincc44 @ Jul 11 2019, 12:04 AM)
Hi All

Any advise on how to fix this scratch ?

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Put a blob of compound on the edge of a microfiber cloth, gently rub and see if helps. It may not remove everything as it looks quite deep, but should make it better.


QUOTE(SilentForever @ Jul 11 2019, 11:10 AM)
Between claybar, clayfoam and claycloth etc, which one offers best cleaning ability for glass?
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Personally I go with claybar, as I clay the entire car with it. However, I wish to say again there is no glass-specific claybar as it is a general use product for car exterior claying.

QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Jul 11 2019, 02:01 PM)
Wow, wasn't aware there's clayfoam now...

Tech advancements has really brought about so many new options...

Btw, what's the best approach to 'detail' a brand new car?? My car has the 'orange peel' effect and the paint looks a bit faded in some places. Somemore it's Granite Grey [black] Myvi so any swirls will be amplified if not done correctly.

Also, another query - does anyone uses those squeegee to wipe away excess water? Usually after I use ONR, I tend to use it to wipe away the water, then only use MF towel. But with the new car, I'm worried the squeegee might cause scratches so I've been wiping it directly with MF after using ONR.

Tends to leave some fine streaks especially on the windscreen since I tend to wash at night and my towels aren't really 'dry'...

Any tips?
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Orange peel wont be something u wanna chase unless u willing to go for wetsanding or compounding with jeans pad. With a new car also, giving it a first round light polish and waxing should be quite sufficient for the long run.

Squeegee is a big no no. If u have issues properly drying your car when doing ONR wash, then u need more dry microfiber towels, ideally bigger and thicker ones that can absorb more. A good microfiber drying towel, even when already somewhat damp, wont leave enough water on windscreen to streak or spot.
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post Jul 11 2019, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Jul 11 2019, 04:15 PM)
Thanks for the advice sifus!

Hmm, I see. Previously driving a silver car so I don't really see imperfections that obviously.

Now rather paranoid cos driving darker coloured car and wanna avoid the dreaded 'swirl' or badly polished look.  shakehead.gif

Ahh I see. So far I've only washed the car with ONR and wiped down, and used Meg's Fast Finish on the paintwork.

I will follow the advice given [wash - clay - polish - wax] to at least lock in the water beading and shine for the time being.

Regarding the MF, I've used a new MF towel bought from Ace Hardware [the stripey type] and I guess the absorbancy isn't that good, even after I folded it another side for another pass of wiping. Or would it be better to use a chamois for drying instead? I know back then I used to adore using those 'magic sponge' to absorb water but I heard those also scratch paints!  doh.gif
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The dark car swirl look dont often come by unless u have had some years of neglect. As long as u maintain good washing technique and tools, u should be fine.

For microfiber towels, unfortunately going cheap via MR DIY or places like ACE Hardware isnt going to cut it unless u are buying Meguiar's drying towel (which is damn expensive btw). Feel free to visit Osren or SGCB to buy bigger towels for drying purposes. The towel I use is 60cm x 40cm, just to give u an idea. Alternatively, https://www.fireballmalaysia.com/collection...-3-size-options
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post Jul 12 2019, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Jul 12 2019, 08:35 AM)
Had to Google water sheeting method. Looks interesting in terms of how it gets rid of most of the excess water on the paintwork.

If without access to a hose, will a pail of water being splashed over the area give a similar impact? biggrin.gif
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Yes, the idea is either natural flow from hose or pail of water splash. Thats why many car wash shops splash water at the end of their rinse, its not to give car final rinse but to sheet water off so that easier to dry.
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post Jul 12 2019, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(haiderabbasi @ Jul 12 2019, 03:29 PM)
Hi,
Does anybody have information about what is the target market for Electric vehicles in Malaysia? means who can buy this vehicle
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Although kinda wrong thread because here discuss more about beautifying and maintaining cars, but as far as I know there is no restriction or limitation on who can buy an electric vehicle. I have known all sorts of ppl buying electric vehicles and there is no confinement of any form. Unless I am reading your question wrongly, then this is all I know.
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post Jul 15 2019, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Jul 15 2019, 10:02 AM)
Thanks a lot for the tips. Tried out the water sheeting method during the weekend and it's much better! No more streaking on the windscreen after the initial towel dry pass, and another round of wipe.

Anyways, did some polishing as well, bought Meguiar's Polish and used applicator pad to apply:
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Just one query, I tried to apply as 'thin' a layer I could cos knowing how PITA it can be to buff off when over-zealous with the usage... Then again, it still took me a fair amount of time to fully buff off the polish and slight streaking marks I could see on the paintwork...

Just wondering, any other alternatives to polishing [Fusso Coat etc], or it's not so much of the product in use, but the technique I had used when applying?
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Erm, this is polish, not protection. Polish is used to remove a thin layer of your clearcoat and restore natural shine to your car, it does not add a layer of protection unlike Fusso Coat etc.

As to usage method, one way to try is to buff off before your polish becomes too dry, else u will face that issue. To know is the polish has come to the end of its cycle, use your finger and swipe over the polish, if it rubs off cleanly then its time to buff off the rest.

QUOTE(JasonTheGreat @ Jul 15 2019, 10:21 AM)
Hi.
I goto 3M shop for Paint protection and Sealant every 6mths, rm190. Is this as good as wax?
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Hard to say, probably u need to know the product they use. However, u are paying not just for product, but also service, so if u think RM190 is affordable to u every 6 months, no one will argue with u. smile.gif

QUOTE(kskoay @ Jul 15 2019, 03:10 PM)
i saw some ppl also complaint about this (ultimate polish)- difficult and take time to buff off the polish...have you ever encounter this? thank you
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As per my comment above. I encounter similar issues with Meguiars M105 compound, where it flashes dry too fast and almost impossible to buff off. So end up have to have shorter working time with it so that I can buff it off while its still somewhat wet/damp.
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post Jul 15 2019, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Jul 15 2019, 04:18 PM)
Thanks for the tip! Will give it a try.

Polish I'll use it sparingly now. I usually touch up paintwork using QD or spray waxes. Yes, reason why I quoted Fusso Coat was because of the insane water beading effect it gave when I used it... Nowadays, got many other new products so I'm also keen to try out alternatives if they give the same/better effect.
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Just to make sure I clarify the distinction again, polish cannot be used the same way as waxes or sealants like Fusso Coat. They are 2 totally different products for 2 totally different uses. If u have swirls, scratches, marring, etc, then polish helps to remove them. It does absolutely nothing when it comes to adding protection to your clearcoat.

Once u are done polishing your car, then applying your QD, spray wax or even Fusso Coat comes into play to protect your clearcoat.

Hope u understand the difference.

QUOTE(derail @ Jul 15 2019, 05:17 PM)
I read somewhere that the pro 105/205 products can be more finnicky to work with but contain more abrasives for pros who are used to the product and can finish the job faster.

Do you know if the Collinite 476 wax causes as much water spots as the Fusso coat product?
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Yes, especially m105 dries particularly fast, so have to wipe off quicker than usual. M205 on the other hand is far more forgiving, so gives a much longer working time and much more joyful to use.

As for the waxes u mentioned, unfortunately I dont have solid facts to tell u because I have not tried either products before. However, from my past readings, my theory is Collinite 476 should not cause as much water spots as compared to Fusso Coat. Fusso Coat's immense durability is what causes it to bead and spot more (similar to typical ceramic coatings), whereas Collinite 476 is more sacrificial, so u remove water spots as u remove the wax when washing. That is my theory.
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post Jul 16 2019, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(derail @ Jul 16 2019, 03:06 PM)
Interesting, I was wondering about that myself after noticing that even wipe on silica/glass type products (fireball/carpro) seem to spot more than waxes. Wasn't happy about the situation since I now had to clean off spotting that would happen despite weekly washings which would also degrade the glass type sealant/coatings.

After what you said, maybe the easiest/cheapest thing to do is spray on some cheap wax regularly on top of a durable sealant like Fusso.
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Well, it doesnt necessarily have to be cheap wax to be your sacrificial layer on top of durable protections. But any form of quality spray wax or sealant should help to be good sacrificial layer against tough protections like Fusso and coatings.
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post Jul 22 2019, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Xnet @ Jul 22 2019, 12:45 PM)
Any suggestion how to remove plastic/rubber trim scuffed?
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I am assuming your trim area is painted same colour as the rest of your car, yes? Try compound and polish by hand, should have some improvement for a majority of the scuffs. And residue only appear if u leave it to dry without buffing the residue off.

However if your trim is unpainted, then not much u can do except mask it with trim protectant (designed for naked plastic parts and trims).

QUOTE(kskoay @ Jul 22 2019, 01:34 PM)
what is IPA?  confused.gif
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Technical term: IsoPropyl Alcohol

If u are as old as me, this used to be called tape-head cleaning alcohol. Other common terms is rubbing alcohol. smile.gif
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post Jul 22 2019, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Xnet @ Jul 22 2019, 03:12 PM)
The trim is plastic/rubber material and its not painted. What trim protectant do you suggest? Will apply after polishing the affected areas.
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For unpainted trims, give it a good wash with some APC or dishsoap or car soap, then use any trim protectant u like. U can even use your tyre dressing if u want.

However, since its unpainted, dont compound/polish/wax, as what u said it will leave white residue when dry. Compound/polish/wax is only for painted surfaces.
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post Jul 22 2019, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Xnet @ Jul 22 2019, 06:26 PM)
Yes - its unpainted and not metal painted surface and will for sure leave residue.
This is plastic/rubber material
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If u are interested to have some value for money protectant for unpainted trims or interior, u can consider Carpro PERL, or u can also contact Osren for their UV Dressing or Reblack. smile.gif
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post Jul 23 2019, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Xnet @ Jul 22 2019, 09:06 PM)
This could work?

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Yup, works fine. smile.gif
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post Aug 2 2019, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(presario316 @ Aug 2 2019, 02:24 AM)
Do you keep the clay for the purpose of reusing it during the next session? How do you store it ?
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Clay (whether claybar/cloth/mitt/pad), all can be reused. For claybar, I would recommend keeping it back in the tub or box that it came with and give it a light squirt of quick detailer before storage. Keep out of sun and heat.

If clay cloth/mitt/pad, usually the way to keep it is in any plastic container filled with water and covered up (I usually use containers like the cookie containers that ppl sell during festive season).

QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Aug 2 2019, 04:51 PM)
One query, I did try this method, just that I used some water diluted with a tiny drop of ONR to store my leftover PG claybar. After about a week of being in the container, the next time I tried to use it, somehow the claybar seems to have lost its effectiveness, as in the outer layer became soft and squishy, even though I tried to fold it many times... I threw that claybar away thereafter.

Did I do it incorrectly, cos I literally 'soaked' it in a tupperware of tap water... Or the claybar was already old and starting to show signs of wear and tear? *Just curious...

Otherwise, my previous regime was to just keep the claybar in the original plastic lining/box it came with, without any moisture...

Appreciate some advice on this.

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Maybe the ONR may have broken down your claybar. I keep it in my container and squirt quick detailer in it and store, no issues. If keeping it in its original box without any fluids to keep it moist works for u, then keep doing so. However claybar definitely isnt the "soak into tub full of water type", just bits of fluid will do to keep it from sticking around the walls of the container.
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post Aug 2 2019, 05:03 PM

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Sorry double post.

This post has been edited by blurcase: Aug 2 2019, 05:03 PM
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post Aug 5 2019, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Aug 4 2019, 06:15 PM)
I have a question....

1) For polishing compound, do I use it on the whole car?..or juz on areas that I wanna remove the stain, then the rest of the areas, I use wax?  hmm.gif

What I did now is,
wash,
then i use polishing compound to clear some of the obvious stain, scractches...
then i proceed to wax the whole car..then finish.
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Erm, I do hope u understand that polishing function is to remove defects, and wax is to add protection. Depending on what u wanna do, then those are the products u use them for. Sometimes when u just polish a section and leave the rest, u will find that that section will stand out from the rest, making your paintwork look uneven.
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post Aug 5 2019, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Aug 5 2019, 01:46 PM)
Hi sifus, I tried searching for the alcohol from Magicboo Sg Wang last weekend but apparently they don't have it in stock anymore.

Just curious, any other places I can et these sort of alcohol so I can perform the IPA wipedown? Or any other products to recommend? I checked a few pharmacies as well around Damansara area but no luck either.
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Jalan Pasar electronics shop can get electronics grade IPA, also not expensive. RM20+ the last I paid for 1 liter bottle.
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post Aug 7 2019, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(CassenyW @ Aug 7 2019, 05:31 PM)
thanks.. i would say it will spend most of the time in the covered carpark ( office and condo).. No problem for washing..
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Does your condo have wash bay? If yes, then u can get car wash soap, some buckets, wash mitt, a microfiber drying towel and few detailing towels.

If no then u may need to consider Optimum No Rinse (ONR) rinseless wash as your "soap", and more microfiber towels to both "wash" and dry.
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post Aug 11 2019, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(EnterYourName @ Aug 11 2019, 09:06 AM)
Thinking to start back to wash and care my own car after getting a new car recently. Had been lazy and pass to car wash outside all these while.

Any recommendation what car shampoo, wax and shining, washing clothes for interior and exterior should I get?
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Pay a visit to Osren and u can complete your starting kit there. smile.gif
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post Aug 11 2019, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(EnterYourName @ Aug 11 2019, 09:56 AM)
Sorry, new to here. Where is osren? Can I buy online as I'm from JB?

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Oh sorry, Osren is based in Kepong, KL. U can pay a visit to their website to see what they have, then go to their FB page and PM them to order.

http://osren.com/home
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post Aug 11 2019, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 11 2019, 01:12 PM)
Risky move... may end up buying more than intended  laugh.gif
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That's the idea, lololol. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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