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post Apr 3 2019, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(genkis3 @ Apr 3 2019, 04:50 PM)
another question for sifus here, can i wash my microfiber towels with dish washer?
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Sorry, misread question.

Yes u can wash ur microfiber towels with dish washer, dont see any harm in that. Just avoid sunning the cloths to dry or throwing it into dryer. Microfiber cloths should be airdried cool.

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post Apr 4 2019, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(matsheikh @ Apr 4 2019, 08:21 AM)
Im looking for 3” DA polisher to complement my 5” Osren Hurricane. Any recommendation on what’s good and available in Malaysia?

Can’t find many options on Lazada. Thank you bros.
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Try ShineMate if u are on a budget, else it would be Rupes. smile.gif

QUOTE(~C.W.S~ @ Apr 4 2019, 12:48 PM)
I own civic 2nd batch too there are minor orange peel on few area of cars (although on most people eyes it just normal paint surface) and one spot with rough unpolished sandpaper feel surface which later I compound and polish myself first day drive back to home. biggrin.gif
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Orange peel is generally expected in most new cars. Quite rare to find any new car that the manufacturer or dealer would remove orange peel for customer because its alot more work. Most of the time dealers will either send for AIO polish or more lazy ones will just get a cleaner wax and DIY themselves at the shop prior to customer collecting.

When I collected my car, it was getting close to my wedding, so didnt have the time to compound and polish. I only did it months after that, but by then got few paint chips anyway, lol.

QUOTE(H3lpM3 @ Apr 4 2019, 02:25 PM)
Guys my old kancil paint is in very bad condition, colours coming off from plastic parts like bumpers and side trims, cracks all over metal body.

I am more interested in doing DIY vynil then a repainting,
Any advice how do I start?

Should I strip all the paint first? Then cemen uneven part , polish and apply vinyl?
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Hmm, I am no expert in vynil, so wouldnt be able to advise if u should strip the paint first. However, if u do strip the paint and cement level the uneven parts, there would be no use for polish, but instead usually its sanding that needs to be done to give it a smooth even surface.
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post Apr 7 2019, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(V429 @ Apr 7 2019, 09:37 AM)
Recently, I got a China OEM type foam sprayer for a fraction of IK foam's price, just to test it out see how it is. Finally got to test it out yesterday.

Tried it out with NXT shampoo, mixed roughly 300 ml to 1500 ml water (total capacity 1800ml). The results are below my expectation. The foam is watery and did not last long. Below picture of foam is after I let it dwell for about 1 or 2 minutes.

Might have to bite the bullet and just get IK foam 1.5

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Just sharing as I do have an IK sprayer, personally I wouldnt recommend to use a sprayer as a means to replace a foam lance attachment to pressure washer or to pre-soak a car for washing. This is because:

1) For any hand pressure sprayer, u have to pump the pressure into your sprayer manually and it drains very quickly, so u have to repeat very often and it is a waste of energy
2) If u intend for this to be a pre-soak before u rinse then wash again with soap from bucket, means u have to double your effort
3) If your pre-soak is the same soap as your regular wash, then its just repeating the same steps but in less efficient way

I would say that it is better to save the energy and use it for your regular washing instead.

I kinda see hand pressure sprayers only practical in a few scenarios:

1) Pre-soak of special chemicals for decontamination (especially for wheel arches and lower half of car)
2) Pre-soak for ONR prior to wiping

Just my 2 sen.
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post Apr 7 2019, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(slk @ Apr 7 2019, 11:02 AM)
Yes, I actually thought about this before also. But again, as a pre-soak with soap, not an efficient method in my personal opinion.

I like Car Cleaning Guru's idea of using it as a chemical decontamination sprayer (either Iron-X or Tar-X stuff or equivalent) for lower half of the car or wheels and wheel arches.

Just my 2 lazy-man sen anyways, hehe...
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post Apr 7 2019, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(slk @ Apr 7 2019, 04:28 PM)
they wash their cars in super long intervals unlike us... normal mild shampoo is good for us already
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Most likely so. Also, videos from these guys tend to show more abnormal or extreme case scenarios cuz weekly washes are simpler and boring. Whenever I do get extra grime due to rainy season, a few squirts of Super Degreaser solves most of the problems with minimal hassle, and it comes out of typical spray bottle. smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2019, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(slk @ Apr 8 2019, 07:39 AM)
For my frequently used cleaners, I'm change them to pump sprayers. less fatigue, easy to the hand smile.gif

get a wide mouth sprayer like Hozelock as it will be easy to clean them once in a while. RM70ish from USJ 8 hardware store (same row as 7-11)
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Hmm, just out of comparison sake, would this sprayer be able to handle alkaline based chemicals? Also, would the spray be excessive if compared to typical sprayer? Just worried for both of that questions.
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post Apr 8 2019, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(slk @ Apr 8 2019, 04:12 PM)
been using it for year for APC and degreaser... no problem  biggrin.gif

you control the amount of product with the trigger... actually its more uniform/even
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Ok good to know. Perhaps will consider it if I plan to use it more.

QUOTE(Par@dox @ Apr 8 2019, 04:39 PM)
Over the weekend when I looked at all car care materials I have accumulated the past 6 months, it occurred to me that I may not have been thinking straight. How did I evolve from a simple one bucket with a cloth and some shampoo to the ludicrous amount of stuff I have now that I'd need to buy a new cabinet to store all of them. Lol.
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Lol, welcome to the club! I already have 2 large plastic storage boxes worth of detailing stuff, and many other stuff that is multi use (torchlights, sprays, big bottles of compound and polish) are all sitting outside of those boxes. Think it happens to everyone that has this passion growing. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 9 2019, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(slk @ Apr 8 2019, 11:26 PM)
and grow.....

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Lol, while mine did not grow to your level, but I totally understand the history. There are many of my older stuff already thrown away because the chems inside kinda degraded.

All I can say is keep it growing! smile.gif

QUOTE(kskoay @ Apr 9 2019, 07:54 AM)
guys, i'm using hand to apply wax (liquid wax), any other better/faster solution with reasonable price? thank you.
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I have tried machine wax before using DA, but to be honest it only covers the bigger panels faster, for small areas u may end up overlapping unnecessarily or hitting somewhere u dont want the wax to be. I still think that hand waxing is still the best in terms of waxing control, despite it being a slower process. Perhaps u can try alternating your hands on the pad if it gets tiring.
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post Apr 9 2019, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(slk @ Apr 9 2019, 01:11 PM)
the hybrid ceramic wax will be my last purchase of the year biggrin.gif
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Lol, 2019 still got 8 months to go bro. There's always something to catch the eye especially during sales. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 10 2019, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Apr 9 2019, 08:47 PM)
Guys, which meguiar product good for interior cleaning? Dashboard, lcd screen etc , thanks
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Meguiars APC is all u need for anything interior cleaning. 10:1 dilution and it keeps a well maintained car very well maintained for a very very very long time. Do remember to add some protectant after cleaning the plastics and leather (if parts of your interior are leather).
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post Apr 11 2019, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(FatBoyDrifter @ Apr 10 2019, 10:19 PM)
Hi Guys, i just applied coating with Gtechniq Glenmarie but I have a dilemma. I'm not washing the car weekly as before due to work commitment and the place I'm staying does not have the facilities to wash my car. So I was thinking of using waterless wash to wash my car but I heard that its not recommended on ceramic coating cars, is this true?.

The other dilemma is should I use sealant or wax as protection?. What about quick detailing spray?.

Hope to hear your opinions guys. I'm kinda stuck..🤔
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Hmm, never heard of waterless wash affecting ceramic coated cars. Normally the concern would be applying stuff on top of your coating. I think as long as ur waterless wash doesnt leave a wax on, then shouldnt be a problem. The standard ONR should be quite safe.

I'm not sure about Gtechniq's product range, but with Carpro, their coating is topped up with Carpro Reload, which is a silica spray sealant. As I generally consider most ceramic coating to be quite similar in nature, I think silica spray sealants should do the topup job just fine.
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post Apr 11 2019, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(FatBoyDrifter @ Apr 11 2019, 09:56 AM)
Kinda hard to get Gtechniq stuff unless buy at the place where i did my coating. Was considering CarPro to do my maintenance wash. They also have waterless wash but their bottle doesn't come with a spray head.

So I can use waterless wash to wash my car. Just need to standby lots of microfiber towels to wash right?.

After the wash use CarPro Reload as sealant?.
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Yes, sounds about right. Please do watch some videos on how to use ONR guide so that u can get the maximum out of your cleaning. smile.gif
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post Apr 11 2019, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(Par@dox @ Apr 11 2019, 08:43 PM)
Came across this video on how to DIY a foam sprayer.

Looks do-able.. may try it out of these days.

DIY foam sprayer
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Looks straightforward and interesting, thought part of me thinks also he mixes his wash soap pretty thick. Wonder if that's part of the strategy.
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post Apr 12 2019, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(slk @ Apr 12 2019, 07:17 AM)
erm not much ppl use last touch nowadays.... what will you use it for? QD, drying aid, clay lube or waterless wash?
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Very sad Last Touch doesnt have the limelight anymore. Its clay lube and waterless wash function lost to ONR marketing, though as a QD that can work both inside and outside the car still great. smile.gif
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post Apr 12 2019, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(slk @ Apr 12 2019, 02:33 PM)
I still have it for my bilt hamber clays smile.gif
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Same, I have it for my Meguiars pro series claybar. One thing I do like about Meguiars APC, Super Degreaser, Last Touch and claybar, they give so much more value for money when diluted (and claybar can cut into 4 pieces and last a long time). smile.gif
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post Apr 13 2019, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Apr 12 2019, 04:13 PM)
Does anyone here come across to this product?

Soft99 Micro Liquid Compound

Swirl removal.

Mine got alot of swirl already. thinking to buy one if it really works.
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Most swirl removal works to a certain degree. Think its a matter of expectation that counts. Just bear in mind that if u hand polish, dont expect same results as machine polish.

QUOTE(slk @ Apr 12 2019, 05:19 PM)
pro claybar very expensive lah? isnt it approaching RM200?
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When I got it from US few years ago, it was slightly cheaper due to currency exchange. Once cut into 4, then use 1/4 of it, lasts very very long time. I play safe and pair it with only Meguiars Last Touch 1:1 to make sure the claybar dont break down.

QUOTE(PeeEl @ Apr 12 2019, 06:06 PM)
Just recently, my car’s front windscreen developed a glare when oncoming cars’ lights and even traffic lights and bright street lamps shine on it?

What can I do or use to get rid of this problem? Glass cleaner or can a detailing shop help? TQ.
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Try use any glass cleaner (I like Good Maid glass cleaner these days cuz cheap and can buy from AEON or AEON BIG) and clean both inside and outside of your windscreen thoroughly. Sometimes oily film may also build inside especially if u use those car scents or humidifiers. If that doesnt work, consider checking your front windscreen tinting if there is issue.
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QUOTE(slk @ Apr 13 2019, 05:51 PM)
I've changed to 20L Osren's Multi Cleaner & Degreaser FX... will last me for 5/6  years smile.gif
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I imagine the Multi Cleaner is APC equivalent and Degreaser FX is Super Degreaser? What sort of dilution ratio do u get?
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post Apr 15 2019, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(quackpack @ Apr 15 2019, 08:43 AM)
Just some interesting things I found about "ceramic" spray.

I bought both the quartz max and water glass from tac system. I was very curious what was the difference since both claim almost similar result, ie the gloss and water repellant capability. Looking at the consistency of quartz max ,confirm that it at least contains silica(product description even mention contains 5% sio2). But water glass doesn't have the consistency of any silica, even their product description does not mention water glass for having sio2, further digging shows that is contains polymer and glass fiber. The application for water glass is similar to Meguiars hybrid ceramic wax, where you mist on the paint and just pressure wash it.

There was some controversy about Meguiars hybrid ceramic wax , where the msds show it only contains water. But now I believe it contains the same ingredient which is the glass fiber, where since it is not considered a hazard, they don't have to display it within the ingredient.

Tac system water glass can be diluted up to 1:10, using a cloth to wipe it on the paint will cause the microfiber to harden, have to sacrifice a cloth if applying it with a microfiber cloth.
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Good to know, but wow, if applying Water Glass means sacrificing microfiber towels, I would be hesitant to use. From the sounds of it water glass doesnt provide the durability of a proper ceramic coating (which already requires sacrificing 2 towels easily in 1 application session), yet to demand a sacrificial towel each time applied (from pure precaution standpoint) is abit too much. Are there alternative application methods that doesnt require such sacrifice?

QUOTE(kskoay @ Apr 15 2019, 09:05 AM)
thank you for sharing  smile.gif

by the way, any good microfiber to introduce? (for drying wet car after wash), what do you think about meguiars water magnet microfiber? thanks again.
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Purely from a drying standpoint, Meguiars magnet cloth is very good, however it is abit more on the pricey side and because it is waffle weave, it has abit more tendence for marring paint post-wash if compared to plush microfiber towels. I think many here would prefer to recommend Fireball drying towel (though I have never tried it myself because the size I want is usually sold out, lol).
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post Apr 15 2019, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(kskoay @ Apr 15 2019, 09:39 AM)
Fireball drying towel? where to buy? thanks again.
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https://www.fireballmalaysia.com/collection...and-applicators
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post Apr 15 2019, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Par@dox @ Apr 15 2019, 01:45 PM)
It's been raining in the evenings almost every day and I have been religiously wiping the car dry (which can be challenging if you don't want to wash the car and at the same time, not risk marring the coating).

Still, I am seeing water spots here and there despite my efforts. It's getting quite frustrating and tiresome.  bangwall.gif

I stand by my opinion that ceramic coatings are not ideal for our equatorial climate unless your car is always sheltered or unless you are prepared to baby the car much more than you would with wax / sealants. It makes perfect sense now why auto makers would not just put ceramic coating on cars by default from the factory. For those of you contemplating a ceramic coating, think twice before you commit. dry.gif
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Agreed. I have stopped thinking about coating and returned to the world of sealants and waxes since the development of it has exploded in the recent years.

QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Apr 15 2019, 02:23 PM)
Hi gais, got a question to ask.

My car now 7 years old. The paint I think still in reasonable good condition. Not planning to repaint at this moment. Might thinking to do repaint the whole car in another 3 years time. For the time being, which option is better?

Option 1 : coating with 3 years warranty. Estimated cost Rm500

Option 2 : Send for polish every 6 months. Estimated cost RM200 x 6 = RM1,200

My thought is option 1 is more economical. Only cons the coating might not bring back the showroom shining.
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How about polish only when necessary? If u think your paint is in good condition, then why polish? Coating doesnt mean u can stop caring for your car. If u read the quote from Par@dox, coating has even more need for care.

Personally my 2 sen, since u say your paint is in good condition, then maybe at best u can get some off-the-shelf spray wax or sealant and just spray and buff after every wash. U can probably then maintain it beyond the next 3 years and more.

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