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post Oct 9 2018, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ Oct 9 2018, 11:03 AM)
if i leave it that long, wouldn't the wax get hardened, end up more difficult to remove?
Some part of my MF towel already got that hardened wax.  sad.gif
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The wax would harden, but shouldnt be to the point cannot remove from towel.

Perhaps u could try rinsing it in a small pail of diluted IPA and see if it comes out.
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post Oct 10 2018, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(douglas_tong @ Oct 10 2018, 12:05 PM)
I recommend soaking it in fabric detergent before giving it another wash in the washing machine.

Diluted IPA actually doesn't do much in removing wax on microfiber and in fact, doesn't remove wax on car panels entirely as well. (It may remove some, but not entirely)
IPA function as "solvents and viscosity decreasing agents", basically just help to lift things to the surface. M/f is good at "catching" particles thanks to the microscopic fingers (split fibers). So issue with removing dry wax on m/f is that sometimes, some form of agitation is required to remove it from these fibers

I usually just take 2 m/f and rub it against each other after soaking for a night in the soap bucket, followed up by fresh detergent and machine wash.

Detergent in liquid form is fine on microfiber towels. Softeners are fine on m/f towels too despite what people would say. Just use a little than the regular amount you would on wearables. I've personally tested it. M/f that is added with softeners on final rinse (with small amount) doesn't do any harm on paint. The issue with too much softeners is that is would clog the split fibers and making the m/f hard to "catch" unwanted particles like dust on panels or surfaces.

If you have used a m/f straight from the packaging, chances are you have used a softened m/f on surfaces before. These m/f are soft and fluffy initially and subsequently feels rougher after a few washes. This is because prior to delivery, m/f clothes are washed and softened in factory before shelving to make it more sellable. Nobody will want to buy hard and rough clothes.

Softeners will be washed out after several washes with detergent. Softeners are hydrophobic, to check if your m/f contains softners, just drip a drop of water on it, old m/f would immediately absorb it while softened (brand new from packaging) clothes would take some time. You would see beading on it.
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Ah yes, rubbing 2 microfiber towels do work alot of wonders when cleaning them. With my other non-detailing microfiber cloths (kitchen, general cleaning), rubbing the 2 sides of microfiber towels against each other after soaking in any soap cleans a majority of dirt of pretty easily without further need of throwing it into washing machine.

Based on reading your post, then perhaps I would not recommend using softeners on towels meant for drying the car, as it would temporarily reduce the absorption of the towel.
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post Oct 11 2018, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(SilentForever @ Oct 10 2018, 11:44 PM)
Hey guys, any good wash mitts brand to recommend that is good on paint and glass? Thanks!
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Mr Clean Car Care Wash Mitt. I been using mine for many years, no issues. Of course I only use this for body and glass, for rims I use a cheaper wash mitt and do not mix them together.

U can buy this mitt in AEON, among other places.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefo...dgzkDPElkAvyLM:
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post Oct 11 2018, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(V429 @ Oct 11 2018, 11:20 PM)
Hello, can I ask anyone try polishing by hand (using Meguiars Ultimate polish) before? In my case there are no serious defects on my car, I plan to clay & polish off some embedded dirt that can't be clayed and maybe fix some fine scratches. No serious defects that I could see so far.

So I wonder if polishing by hand is enough? I plan to use firm applicator pad to do the job. Is it enough? Or need something else (hex-logic pad or microfiber applicator pad) that offers more 'cut'?

I read in V4 before that some seniors did it before, I wonder maybe if their opinion has changed since then.
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I did that many many years ago when I was younger and had more energy. Based on what u plan to do, I dont think it should be a problem. Just try one section at a time, and see the results. Sometimes u may require to go in for 2-3 rounds depending on the severity of the defect, but as always, the rule of thumb is to let the product and pad do the work. Dont put too much pressure into the pad or else u may cause more problems.

QUOTE(AhBoy~~ @ Oct 11 2018, 11:27 PM)
anyone know how to remove water mark on top of ceramic coated paint?
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Did u try going back to your coating shop to get it removed? Usually they provide that service as part of their maintenance.
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post Oct 12 2018, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(V429 @ Oct 12 2018, 09:20 AM)
Thanks for the advice smile.gif BTW as you mentioned you sometimes used dish washing liquid to clean off polishing oils right? Can I ask do you spray it or just drip the liquid on panel, wipe and rinse? If it's spray.. Is there a dilution ratio for it?
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Yes, I spray from sprayer bottle and it is very diluted. I didnt measure the dilution ratio, however my sprayer bottle is Osren 1000ml bottle, and I squirt maybe 10ml of Joy dishsoap into the bottle and filled it up to 1000ml mark.

A light mist from the spray, then use a dry microfiber and wipe off. If all microfiber towels u have at the time are damp or wet already, then need to wipe few more times until bubbles are gone. When u swipe your car body after that, the feel should be squeeking like clean plates instead of slick and slippery.
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post Oct 13 2018, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(SilentForever @ Oct 13 2018, 04:50 PM)
Hello guys, where to get car wash bucket? Household bucket I think too big to fit gritguard.
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U have 2 options:

1) Find any place doing renovation and ask them if they have old paint buckets that can give u, the size is pretty much the same as specialized car wash buckets.

2) measure the diameter of your grit guard and go to Aeon/Aeon Big/Tesco and find a pail with same diameter.

There are many household pails that can fit the gritguard, it also depends on the size of gritguard u buy. The 2 common sizes are 23.5cm and 26cm diameter.
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post Oct 15 2018, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(valegal @ Oct 15 2018, 05:36 PM)
Hi Sifus, i have few questions on leather seats/panel/steering.  icon_question.gif 

1. How do you guys maintain the leather seats? Any treatment?

2. Any suggestion for product or place to service/maintain the leather?

3. Plus, any suggestion on how many time should we maintain the leather per yer or per month?

Side note: The car is 2 months old.

Thank you in advance Sifus!!  nod.gif
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For leather, personally I just use a damp microfiber to wipe clean each time I wash my car.

For longer term maintenance, it is recommended to clean with APC and brush, then apply leather conditioner to prevent leather from hardening and cracking. Alternatively u can also get products like Meguiars Leather Cleaner and Conditioner 2-in-1 to get the job done. U will need also applicator pads and microfiber cloths.

This maintenance varies in timeframe. If your car is prone to baking in the sun and rain, then perhaps once every 6 months would be good. Else once a year should be enough.

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/meguiars...YpjE7x&search=1
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post Oct 17 2018, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(EON @ Oct 17 2018, 08:39 PM)
is it true that toothpaste can remove light scratches on car?
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There is some truth in that, but it is very car paint type and toothpaste dependent. Some toothpaste, when u feel the paste with your fingers, is very rough. Those would probably do more harm than good.

Overall, I would still not recommend using toothpaste because of the variation of the paste consistency, and instead at bare minimum recommend any form of car-specific polish or compound that has been formulated specifically for car paintwork.

QUOTE(V429 @ Oct 17 2018, 10:21 PM)
Hi guys, Just wondering what degreaser / APC you guys use? Thinking to get one to tackle some of the below task.

-Cleaning Tire, rim & wheel wells
Was thinking to use full strength or dilute 1:1 in spray bottle for this task.

-Clean off stubborn grim on car paint / trims
Specifically for nooks and crannies on car exterior & also long lines of dirt & grim stains that usually appear below door handles and side mirror.  sad.gif  In my experience car shampoo alone with wash mitt cant wash them off, instead I need to use Mother's cleaner wax to remove them. Was thinking maybe dilute APC/degreaser and mix with car shampoo into spray bottle and agitate with brush?

-Strip wax / sealants
I know I can chose IPA or dish washing soap for this, but I read that Slk suggested can add some into car shampoo and wash as normal to achieve this too. Good to have choices I suppose?

Some of the products suggested in previous post are Meguiars APC, Osren Degreaser FX and OPC. Maybe I am too greedy to thinking of getting just 1 product to tackle of the above task?  tongue.gif  Any recommendations or experience to share on this please?
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1) Cleaning tire, rim, wheel wells: I used to pre-soak with Cartec Wheel Cleaner, then rinse, then use my regular Meguiars NXT wash soap to scrub entire wheel including barrel and wheel wells, then Cartec Wheel Cleaner again on the tyres scrubbing, then wash everything off. Subsequently I changed Cartec Wheel Cleaner to SuperClean Degreaser, works better with less toxic burn, now moved on to Meguiars Super Degreaser.

2) Stubborn dirt on edges/trims: I tend to use APC with brush for those jobs, however it is rare that I need to do so because I dont leave my car that long for the grime to harden to that extent.

3) Strip wax / sealants: Claybar would be my go to, so cant advice on dishsoap or IPA effectiveness.
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post Oct 18 2018, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(EON @ Oct 18 2018, 07:43 AM)
If it is just some light scratches, should i use polish or compound as well? There is some so called 'scratch remover & swirl remover' products by turtle wax, will it work on removing the scratches or it just cover the scratches like how some wax did?
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The best practice always dictates to use the least aggressive method first. In your case it means using polish first, if the scratch doesnt go away, then try compound and after compound polish again. Scratch remover I imagine is more like a compound, and swirl remover would work more like polish.

To know for sure if the compound/polish actually removed your defect instead of filling/covering it up, wipe clean the surface with diluted IPA or diluted dishsoap. Also, a good torchlight would come in handy during inspection of results.

QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 18 2018, 04:12 PM)
Eh guys, how do you guys clean/maintain/take care of the car leather dashboard? Mine looks dusty and dry. I wiped it with a moist micro fiber cloth once a week but it always get dusty the next day.

Also when I put my hand on it, there will be white powderish mark on it.
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U can refer to my earlier post reply to another question on leather related matters. It is quite recent.

Your description describes a sign of the leather possibly drying up. I suggest applying leather conditioner to restore back the leather softness and vibrance.
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post Oct 18 2018, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 18 2018, 04:46 PM)
Ah okay, it's a new car so I am not sure if it's the sign of leather drying up or cracking up. Leather conditioner...just put on microfiber towel and wipe over?

My car is usually parked in basement so baking under the sun is very rare. It's just look dry and dusty despite cleaning weekly. Also the powderish mark is very annoying.
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Sort of, u are kinda massaging the leather conditioner into the leather itself, so needs some light rubbing, then use another cloth to buff off the excess.
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post Oct 18 2018, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Oct 18 2018, 05:42 PM)
Any method to clear off the dust? I use moist microfiber clothes but macam not every effective.. hmm.gif
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Try a small flat paintbrush and see if it can sweep off the dust. Otherwise, a vacuum cleaner would be best.
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post Oct 19 2018, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(V429 @ Oct 19 2018, 02:15 PM)
Guys, I suddenly tot of an funny idea regarding waxing the car with Fusso coat.

After reading thru past opinions about Fusso coat, generally it is praised for it's water beading ability & durability but has the disadvantage of attracting comparatively more dust and watermark.

So my idea is that why not wax vertical panels (such as doors and bumper) with Fusso coat and then wax horizontal panels (such as car roof and hood) with another wax/sealant that attracts less watermark?

I was thinking maybe this may reduce watermark on fusso coat as water less likely to sit and dry on vertical panels. But dust might still be a problem maybe.

Another possible downside to this is that visually the car may look.. Strange due to different shine due to different wax/sealant on different panels.

so far I have not heard people using different wax/sealants on different part of the car, only layering different wax and sealants.

So what do you guys think? Or anyone tried it before already? smile.gif
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It is an interesting thought, however u'd have to invest into 2 types of protection systems for the same car. I think that would depend on everyone's individual budget.

Think the 2 main reasons why ppl prefer to apply fusso then a spray wax on top of it is:

1) Fusso as a strong base layer and spray wax as sacrificial layer. Spray wax layer would attract less dust and watermarks (hopefully)

2) The shine becomes more consistent instead of different levels of shine on different panels.

Usually ppl only using different protection systems in different parts of the car as a form of testing to see which one is better.

Personally I have not tried applying different systems on the same car, as I am the type to like or dont like also buy already then use until pretty much finish. If I really dont like the product then donate/throw away and get another one that works better. Youtube and online reviews help alot in research before purchasing, so reduces the likelihood of buying a product I really dont like.
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post Oct 19 2018, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(V429 @ Oct 19 2018, 11:27 PM)
Thanks for your suggestion  smile.gif Yeah, I would really like to try different waxes & sealants, but currently constrained by budget, haha. Because planning to buying quite a lot of stuff for my first big detailing project. IPA, spray bottles, ONR for clay lube, Wax/sealant.. Going to upgrade from Cleaner wax to proper wax/sealants soon  biggrin.gif 

Also, need you guy's advice on a newbie problem : How do you guys keep solutions/shampoo from leaking or dripping from their bottles? In my case, my old Turtlewax Wash & Wax shampoo bottle and current Meguiars NXT shampoo, after I pour the solution into the cap (to pour into wash bucket), the solution drips from the cap after I screw back the cap into the bottles. How do I prevent these unnecessary wastage? sad.gif
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Erm, just my experience with shampoos, after a while I stop following the pouring into their cap and then into wash bucket. I used to pour instead to a separate measuring cup instead, but nowadays i just agak-agak pour in direct. If u practice pouring direct often enough, eventually u actually dont need any measuring.
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post Oct 20 2018, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(V429 @ Oct 20 2018, 12:14 AM)
Such a simple solution how come I never think of this doh.gif
Good idea on using a measuring cup instead of using the bottle cap. I not confident enough to pour direct into the bucket yet. Scare I accidentally pour too much like Douglas here  tongue.gif but I might get the hang of it as time goes on I suppose  smile.gif
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Just sharing the tip on how I eventually got the agak-agak right. It is much less on how u see it as it goes into the bucket, but more when u have foamed it up and run the soap in ur washmitt across the car. As long as its watery doesnt foam up much when u are scrubbing your car, then soap not enough.

A way cheap way to demonstrate this agak-agak method is by using dishsoap in a small bowl. When u put very little dishsoap (like 1-2 drops into a bowl of water), and try to wash your plates, u will find it to be very watery but not much suds when scrubbing your plates. However, when u add more, then try wash again, u may see more suds when scrubbing. Same concept, different application.

Hope this explanation helps. smile.gif
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post Oct 21 2018, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(littlegamer @ Oct 21 2018, 02:50 PM)
hi new to here, i own a black decker polisher KP600.  my paints is now full of scuff marks , water marks and some black dirt cant be removed just by washing, white cars owners should understand

i do most car caring like waxing and washing myself except polish as my skill suck.  any recommendation of simple polish can remove those defects with the black decker polisher? or i should send to shine shine those kind of shop to help me do.

i also see shine shine offer RM68 water polish + waxing, whats water polish? Use water instead of polishing cream? that sounds ridiculous to me.

After this polish i will seat it off with soft99 fuso coat.
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I would have to say that despite what u might think your skill probably doesnt suck, but your polisher is definitely underpowered to say the least. I have used a similar machine which is the Bosch GEX 125/1 before and thought that my skill was bad as well because the defects were still present after trying and even had extra pads and polish and compound of different varieties.

However, once I moved to rotary and eventually now Rupes, I discover that actually it was the Bosch that lacked cutting power.

As douglas_tong mentioned, there are many other machines in the market, which many are reviewed, tried and tested and works very very well. I would suggest u consider upgrading your machine instead.

I am not sure what shops like shine shine means when they advertise services like water polish. However, products like Meguiars Wash Plus (apparently now discontinued) are designed to wash and have mild abrasives to "polish" your paint at the same time. Perhaps there is some similarity there.
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post Oct 26 2018, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(rationale @ Oct 26 2018, 12:41 AM)
Thanks any advice on how to restore the mirror finish other than replacing to a new part?
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Most chrome parts are created via chrome plating, though some say now chrome can be sprayed too. This should give u some idea on what to google.

https://www.refine.com.my

A website to start u off. Happy googling. smile.gif
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post Oct 26 2018, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(rationale @ Oct 26 2018, 04:17 PM)
Thanks, just wondering, if anyone tried the chrome polish on those chrome on plastic, would it work?
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Erm, from a DIY standpoint, it depends on your mindset. Perhaps check first the cost of chrome re-plating/respraying cost. Then with that in mind, think if u are willing to pay for the worst case scenario. If u are, then u u can try a few different things, firstly start with mild polish. However, I also would not recommend using chrome polish as it may be too abrasive, but instead recommend trying stuff like gold/silver/copper/bronze polishes.

https://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthrea...stic-trim/page2

Perhaps this can give u a better perspective on chromed plastics.
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post Nov 5 2018, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Nov 4 2018, 09:14 PM)
Need a bit help , car seat was soak wet not sure where until I notice, maybe forgot to fully close the window.

How do I dry Fabric car seat ? I search on youtube video all just showing how to clean but never said how to dry them.
It's soak weak after a heavy non stop raining.

It's fabric.So the seat is wet.I remember I saw a post of DIY washing car seat when Penang flood , but I forgot the link .

Not not just clean , need a cleaning , drying and remove the smell of soak wet.
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U will need to remove the seat from your car, wash it thoroughly and sun it for a few days, and during that time hope that the sun is super bright and hot.

If u bring to the detailing shop and they have the extraction vacuum, they can also do for u, would probably dry faster.
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post Nov 7 2018, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(jyane @ Nov 7 2018, 02:04 PM)
Hi all, i know it dumb question but im serious. what the diff between the masking tape in car retailer used and the normal masking tape? will normal masking tape damage the paint? thank for sifus explaination.
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The masking tape used in the car industry actually is more targeted towards paint shops who use them during sanding and spray painting body parts. The glue on the tape and the fabric or paper used on the tape is slightly different from regular masking tape.

From my experience as a detailer standpoint, the only major difference I find is in the stickiness of the tape. Sometimes when we run our polishing machine too close or over the masking tape, there is a higher tendency of regular masking tape opening up as compared to car masking tape. But apart from that, I dont think normal masking tape will do any damage to car paint. So generally it is not necessarily super important to buy car-specific masking tape if its hard for u to find or beyond your budget.

A tip I would give when it comes to masking tape is to have at least 2 sizes (1/2" and 1" thick), as different sections tend to require different size masking tape that works best. Also, only mask prior to compounding/polishing and try to avoid leaving masking tape on more than 1-2 days. Some masking tape, if left too long, will leave their sticky glue on the paint during removal, end up more effort to clean glue residue off.
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post Nov 8 2018, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(whippy @ Nov 8 2018, 05:47 PM)
Anyone tried the Magic Fix It Pen that can be found on Lazada for RM8-10?

Got some paint residue on my car from a stupid bike that grazed my bumper  dry.gif
Washing doesn't really remove it so wondering if using these stuff would work

Or if anyone else has suggestion on how to remove the paint also I'm more than open to listen! I read something about using toothpaste but not sure if it'll work?
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Erm, without a photo it is hard to tell what is the issue, so I am gonna share 2 hypothetical scenarios that would describe your situation:

1) Paint came off from your bumper. If that happens, then nothing can be done except either DIY touchup or respray at paint shop

2) Paint transferred to your bumper. If that's the case, then the way to clean it off would be:
a) start with claying
b) apply compound via hand applicator, then buff off
c) apply polish to follow up after compounding, then buff off

There is a reason that we here prefer proper car polish and compound over toothpaste. Toothpaste's grain is rougher and not consistent, thus u may end up causing more scratches than removing them by using toothpaste.

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