QUOTE(blurcase @ Dec 2 2016, 01:26 AM)
That's one of the reasons I was sharing info also. Previously I tested Meguiars professional claybar against soap water, and it changes the quality of the claybar over time.
More recently I tested Meguiars consumer claybar with Cartec All-Purpose Cleaner by Rupes Malaysia distributor (thats what they recommend for claying) and it started disintegrating very quickly with just claying 1 section 2ft x 2ft.
Claybars can be expensive, and slower to use due to constant re-folding and flattening after every section, but can clay your entire car many times and achieves a cleaner surface.
Hmm IMO, I think all-purpose cleaner is considered as strong cleaner (than car shampoo) and not suitable to use as claybar lube.
Probably you can try claybar with meguiars gold class shampoo? I remember it was a good combination for me and claybar was still fine.
My recent combination is soft99 claybar + fireballkorea 1:600 diluted active snow foam as clay lube. So far no sign of deterioration for claybar. Need more test on this.
UPDATE: Found this
http://www.chemicalguys.com/Poly_Clay_Bar_...y_202_180gr.htm" Using low quality clay lubes or cheep detail sprays will deteriorate your bar and lead to poor clay bar performance. Also beware of soapy water as a clay lube, detergent or surfactant based soaps will cause the clay to deteriorate"
Probably the surfactant in the car soap caused the claybar to deteriorate faster?
QUOTE(toonny @ Dec 2 2016, 01:10 PM)
What's the symptoms of claybar is disintergrating?
Ermm it's like when you try to fold the claybar, the claybar will break apart. And some of the claybar pieces will drop off as well, kinda like "disintegrate" from the complete piece. That's what I experienced.
This post has been edited by windskill: Dec 2 2016, 01:54 PM