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post May 4 2017, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ May 4 2017, 02:22 PM)
Folks, I do understand some of you buy the polishing pads from Osren, other than that, any local shop in Klang Valley that you frequent or online site other than lazada?

Its getting too expensive to buy from overseas sad.gif
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u finding which? Like Chemical guys hexa pad? From Osren not good ?
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post May 4 2017, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(N33d @ May 4 2017, 03:34 PM)
how much is the DAP15 from osren?
i am also shopping for a DA, deciding between osren DAP15, Clover 15mm DA, Clover Force DA(Flex 3401 clone).
The only info i got is clover 15mm according to gfwong review.
really have no idea about DAP15 vs Clover 15mm or DAP15 vs that Flex 3401 clone.
Hope someone here can give some feedback regarding those machine
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At the end i go for Clover 15mm DA , with 6 month warranty , i not sure how much is DAP15 or CLover Force DA , because i only want make my budget as low as possible , because osren DAP8 cost me around RM800 include postage and the Clover RM850 include postage , gap between Rm50 should be ok , and hope i happy with my purchase rclxms.gif

QUOTE(N33d @ May 4 2017, 03:40 PM)
hmm
sorry for my ignorance,
this is the first time i heard ppl saying about leaving swirls marks on paint from DA when compare to rotary
should not it be another way round? what i have read is it is impossible for rotary to leave swirl free paints due to the nature on how the thing work, that is why ppl usually finish the paint it with DA. not the other way round.

the only biggest downside of DA to me is lower correction power and its noise and vibration
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Not sure why osren saying that , it only leave swirl mark for SOLID White paint honda paint , maybe from their experience they meet that problem ?
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post May 4 2017, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(gfwong @ May 4 2017, 04:30 PM)
My 2 sen on Honda paint.
For Honda paint on a DA, I would prefer go straight with Meg Ult Compound and skip Meg Ult Polish. Meg Ult polish tends to cake-up on Honda paint but Meg Ult compound will finish to a great shine. I would use LC green CCS pad to finish.
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u mean i direct apply DA + Ultimate compound without polishing?? Compound won't causing swirl anyway? I thought after compound we need to do Polishing for finishing else will leave halogram and light swirl , correct me if i'm wrong , i also stil learning how to do paint correct , previously only Clay bar , wax


Did u mean Lake Country Force Disc??

currently i got Grey , White , Black , which combo should i go with anyway?

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post May 4 2017, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(douglas_tong @ May 4 2017, 05:28 PM)
My experience, if it is a hot and humid day it will be hard to buff off with ultimate polish on honda cars/Japanese cars
If it is a good morning without much heat it is easier.

Based on my neighbours Honda car while helping to remove some scratches.
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So what combo should i use for my honda paint? sad.gif


If using Meguiars Polishing + White pad directly polish with 15mm Clover DA won't remove the swirl? I think maybe i try a panel that can remove or not , if it can't , only i go GREY + Meg Compound


Anyway meg compound and polish suit for honda paint?

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post May 4 2017, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(blurcase @ May 4 2017, 06:16 PM)
Erm every paint is abit different. Compounds, polishes and pads not designed to be car brand specific. Best for u to test with least aggressive method first, meaning start with polish and soft pad, then see results if satisfactory. If not, then either step up ur polish to compound or use a rougher pad, or both. Thats what I did during every car polish session in my shop days, and still do now at home. Hope this reduces your confusion.
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Ok roger

So when i get my DA, go meg polish with white pad first, if swirl not gone, then direct go grey pad + compound, how actually know it already finishing and dont need to go next step polishing?

If let say after compound the finish is good , polishing is an extra unless step? And if continue polishing wont create more swirl right?


For waxing, just use black pad, spred the wax over pad and use speed 1 and spred all over car? And this wont cause swirl too right?
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post May 4 2017, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(blurcase @ May 4 2017, 07:08 PM)
Usually the polishing process need to run a few passes until the polish almost faded from your body panel, that would mean the amount of polish on the pad almost finish and time to stop to wipe off residue and reload your pad.

To know wether what u did is giving satisfactory result, u will need to use a warm white torchlight. Check out Ammo NYC and Osren youtube channels, they have a video to show how to check your results using torchlight.

For waxing, generally using DA machine it should not create any additional swirls if done correctly. Try not to apply any pressure on the machine to the body panel when waxing.
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Actually i already watch all the OSREN video from youtube , also buy torchlight from osren , force disc pad lake country , just dont have a proper DA machine haha , so i already make purchase for the clover 15mm , just have to wait to receive the item rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif


I actually understand the process just they keep telling me honda paint is very different , so that make me abit confuse , i think i really have to try 1 panel , until i get the result , only continue other panel biggrin.gif
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post May 4 2017, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(slk @ May 4 2017, 09:39 PM)
erm IMHO you should do a test spot 1st before polishing. Once you are satisfied with the outcome, repeat the process to the entire car. But the thing is... if some panel/s were repainted, then you need a second test spot smile.gif.

FYI, I managed to do full correction on a black Honda with my Dodo Juice Buff Daddy ( less power than Osren's DAP8). I find the Rupes is overkill for honda. I've used Meguiars D300 with their MF cutting pad, then finished with Osren's Perfect Cut 20 with LC White force pad.
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So far my both car is brand new 2017 model , just when get the car , under lightning it full of swirl , can't tahan to see those swirl bruce.gif bruce.gif So no repaint spot to test


BUT !!! My spoiler is order from Accessory shop , that time when i order they say the spoiler is re-paint one !!! So i believe it's not from factory spray , should i just try to go less agressive first? if not end up my spoiler paint habis polish and paint gone cry.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2BCAaczsmk

i actually notice when i watch this video , why honda paint so mafan one haizzz

my white force pad side got abit peel off le , stil can use bro?




So adjust speed 1 = spread over the polisher first , after this only set up speed to 6 and pass like snake pattern up down left right until the polish look thin and clean ? White car very hard to see anyway sad.gif

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QUOTE(douglas_tong @ May 4 2017, 10:14 PM)
Cars are made of different parts so generally parts with metal disperse heat better. Elsewhere like body kit Pu/abs dont disperse heat efficiently so have to watch out.

But burning paint with da very hard La. Almost impossible.
With da just polish without worrying too much.

What do you plan to do or have in cleaning pads between panels?
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We need really clean the pad after each panel? I heard some member say just take off the pad, can wash with car shampoo, after this attach to DA and set speed to 6 to spin let the pad dry ?

Hope the DA isnt that hard to use , previously using BD kp600 so i think it will be work the same just 15mm DA clover will be more heavy and powerful
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post May 4 2017, 11:05 PM

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After done polish, u guys re wash ur car? Or u guys using alcohol to wipe down?
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post May 5 2017, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ May 4 2017, 11:13 PM)
It really depends on the product you use, if your final product is wax or sealant, it will say on its instructions, if a prep is needed.

For most of Meguiars, one dont need to prep it
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So even after ultimate compound, just buff off with towel and direct apply wax without needed to wash the car to complete remove any polisher?

QUOTE(douglas_tong @ May 4 2017, 11:29 PM)
clean water will do, just scrub it with care. use something not too hard or tough else it will ruin the pads.
i have not seen one cleaning with car shampoo...for efficiency you need to clean it often to get best of result.
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QUOTE(therain01 @ May 4 2017, 11:52 PM)
Use warm water to clean the pad if necessary. I normally don't wash the pad for every panel. I have been maintaining the car paint with cleaner wax so 1 pad is normally good for 1 car.

I found that the best way to clean the pad after use is by using laundry powder detergent. I'm not sure how would it damage those expensive poliahing/buffing pad,  but for me the detergent does not kill my cheap pad, just yet.
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Use clean water spray the pad, then stick back to DA and open max speed to make it dry?

And a question, let say after 3 month of apply wax, do u guys stil clay b4 waxing? Or direct use the DA attach pad and re-wax , only clay once a year?will witout clay make swirl come back?


And i found this on youtube, this seen better and easy work than clay bar


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QUOTE(douglas_tong @ May 5 2017, 12:59 AM)
usually i would, if i have the time.
Simple way to test it is through the plastic bag test.

but if i'm lazy, i just spray wax it, that's the pro of using spray wax. instead of using machine. harder to cause swirls.
swirls are usually caused by improper washing techniques / lack of preparation (claying) before polishing / improper  drying methods .. etc basically anything that might cause friction from dirt and dust.

if you are using natural wax based, it wouldn't last 3 months.
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Actually i have full range of meg ultimate product , the liquiq wax i using so far can tahan around 3 month (not include raining season)

From compound, polish, liquiq wax, spray wax , just b4 this using hand, now wanna try with machine

I wan get machine to wax also to save my time , normally those shop say 3 layer or 5 layer wax, izit after apply wax buff off, they reapply again wax to whole car and wipe off repeat for 5 time? This actually can make wax last more longer? I never try because usinf hand normally i just go 1 pass and wipe with liquiq wax
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QUOTE(slk @ May 5 2017, 07:56 AM)
always start with the least abrasive combo. if not happy step up.

can you take a photo of the pad?

i normally go up to speed 4/5 max. for white/light coloured cars, you need to polish in a dark surrounding area/at night with 1 light source
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Very hardly to polish at night, that will make my neighbour angry since the DA so noisy


Because i see from chemical guys video, they normally set speed 1 to spread polisher then up speed 6 to polish, speed 6 too harsh to paint?

Later i send u the pic of my pad
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This is how my pad broken, side way, stil can use anyway?


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QUOTE(douglas_tong @ May 5 2017, 03:04 PM)
Why so fast koyak? You hit something with it?
Flat panels still ok la, but I'll advise against using it on curved panels.
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I not sure too, previous polish with black decker kp600, maybe hit something so abit koyak, if using curve panel will cause swirl? Because i buy rm45 just use 2 time only sad T_T
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QUOTE(slk @ May 5 2017, 03:19 PM)
then cover you porch so that its abit dark smile.gif.

erm still can use... but give it a wash and dont dry it under sun
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Pad cant dry under sun? Normally u guys wash with warm water? Can i put my pad into washer maching anyway?
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ May 5 2017, 06:52 PM)
Washing machine?!  shakehead.gif can...but why wanna make the machine greasy?

Hot sun basically will make the sponge rough and hard...just warm dry it...like placing it in your veranda or patio.
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QUOTE(linkin182 @ May 5 2017, 06:57 PM)
Depends! If its my Waxing Pad, I'll rinse it with Warm water first!
Mine is meg ultimate compound and polish, so I dunno. It looked like its non oil based, so I chuck it in tongue.gif

So yes! I chuck my pads (DA & Hand) into my washing machine biggrin.gif

Mine is front load! can set temperature too!
da faq  blink.gif be poop again?
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okey noted !!! 1 more question , can meg ultimate polish to polish head lamp and tail lamp?
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QUOTE(therain01 @ May 6 2017, 12:48 AM)
Don't ever try anything abrasive on headlight. Headlight comes with factory UV coating.  To remove any mark or stain, use cleaner without cutting ability.

You should only use something abrasive when your headlight has turned yellowish /oxidized. Or you are working on glass headlight, for example wira headlight.

Tail light will be fine, you can apply anything on it. It does not comes with coatings.
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Thank for the explain, then i dont touch my head lamo and tail

but possible to polish then lamp to be swirl free? Because i saw my lamp got swirl mark


Between meg liquiq wax vs soft99 kiwami, which actually give high gloss effect? I personally like meg liquiq wax bcoz it can apply all over surface without any white stain, and its so easy to apply and buff off
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QUOTE(therain01 @ May 6 2017, 10:10 AM)
If you found swirl mark over the headlight someone might have already mess with it. I would suggest meguiars headlight protectant. It will cover up some very minor defect at the same time protect the headlight from UV. It is UV coating safe.  Apply a little of the product and wipe it until almost dry. Don't let it stay dry without keep wiping otherwise cloudiness may form. Apply it once a month. 1 bottle should last you for years to come.

I can't say which wax has better gloss. Basically all wax and sealant gives mirror gloss finish and carnauba wax gives warm gloss finish as long as your paint is well prepared. I would take extra caution when using extremely hydrophobic soft 99 though. Try it on hood to see if it cause white shade under heat.
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I might try the meg head lamp restore out


U are true, when apply soft99 product have to give more caution and more care, while meg ULW just apply where ever u want without problem
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QUOTE(therain01 @ May 6 2017, 01:07 PM)
Please take note I was suggesting headlight protectant and not restorer. Normally restorer is abrasive and use to deal with yellowish headlamp.
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oh lucky u tolding me , normally i just using liquiq wax to protect my tail lamp and head lamp , never try those headlight protectant , do they really make diff? because i read other forum mostly they using Meg ultimate liquiq wax for all surface of car to protect
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QUOTE(blurcase @ May 6 2017, 05:56 PM)
The idea of the Meguiar's Headlight Protectant is the UV protection. It is like sunblock we put on our skin to prevent sunburn.

I have never personally used it before, but have read in other forums that the protectant is generally a short term solution that need to apply regularly. After restoring a faded headlamp, it is better to wrap it with clear tint from car accessories shop or use a UV-protection clear paint spray for longer term protection.
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So if the head lamp isnt touch b4, original head lamp, so it will have uv protection right?
And 1 more question, if the paint is repaint part, so what shoukd we take care when doing polishing?

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