Sifu , if they dont conpound, naybe after a year or 2 , the coating will completely off from paint? Or at the end stil need to compound

Yup, i try the soft99 fusso coat 12 month b4, the water bending and durable is amazing, but i don like is it abit hard to buff and will stain plastic, i like something that easy apply and buff and the wax can apply all over whole car without any problem , with fusso i need apply very careful especially near car logo there, if not it will stuck inside the logo and hardly to remove


i recently order Osren radiant 12 liquid wax + Surface condition(mix with water and become spray wax for maintenance every 1 to 2 week, something like meg ultimte quick wax)

For me i not so care about water bending, seriously who gonna pour water on ur car to look the water bending? I focus more on shining and licin2 surface hehe

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: May 21 2017, 12:20 PM

i think my liquid wax is because put on rear bonnet and then get heat up and rosak le , haizz , don think they can replace new for me because it my fault , summore already almost a year le

For me when i start detailing , i start with liquid wax , that why i found paste wax so hard to buff , while liquid wax easy apply and easy wipe , but durable really not pair to soft99 fusso , that one really can tahan more than 3 month

in between i like to maintain with spray wax , because it make my car back to licin2 feel after few wash hehe , u using which liquid wax for now? I not sure how good is OSREN liquid wax , but he do mention not so tahan , but i give it a try haha , to buy another Ultimate Liquid Wax , it cost me again Rm160-170++

i can buy 2-3 bottle of Osren Liquid Wax


I learn from blurcase sifu , he told me always start with less aggressive , u can always polish first with less aggressive , if job not done , only move to more aggressive

but some detailer didn't do this , just direct compound and then finish with polish


He told me u can actually play with this


polish + finishing pad
Polish + white pad
Polish + compound pad
compound + white pad
compound + compound pad

any combination is possible

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: May 21 2017, 03:22 PM

I getting this 2 , not sure u guys use before?


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I buy the osren surface condition to try out, their solution isnt ready to use, have to mix with water 1:4 , so 1L surface condition can get around 5L after mix , quality is how not sure yet will update later

Normally those solution have expired date? Can keep til 2 3 year?

Eithet local store is Osren brand

If u wan to get from china then Clover , but it will be no warranty for you

OSREN (MALAYSIA) SDN BHD
54, Jalan 5/32A,
Off 6 1/2 miles, Jalan Kepong
52100 Kuala Lumpur

Their full address here

Their service very good, and guide newbie to detail, u wont regret to know them seriously

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: May 22 2017, 08:37 PM

Okey take noted

Order some product from Osren and received it today

The smell of the liquid wax is awesome, feel wanna drink it hehe

Their sprayer bottle and tools really cheap compare to other big brand, really affordable

Not sure how good is their wax but liquid wax is expect to be not so durable , so have to maintain with spray wax surface condition 1 - 2 week once

First thing need to do is , polish out all the swirl and scratch b4 doing anything


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Degrease is only for cleaning

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: May 23 2017, 08:30 PM

Ya, rm45 for such big bottle, and u have to mix 1 product to 4 with clean water , if the rim is super duper dirty then 1 to 1 , so i think i could use really for a long long long long long long time for 2 car

And their liquid wax 300ml just rm32 while 1L is rm75 , super affordable !!! Meguiars ULW rm170++ for 437ml if not mistake, formula might be different, so i give them a try

Then i bought the surface conditioner rm110 which act as spray wax , both liquid and spray wax is very damn good smell , very sweat smell , the surface come with 1L and u have to mix 1 product to 4 water, so in total i will get 5L of spray wax , rm110 / 5 that will be only rm22 for 1L spray wax, 1L to maintain 2 car is super many, i not sure i able to finish the 5L or not seriously , u guys come my home, i charge rm10 per spray wax

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: May 24 2017, 01:22 AM

OPC?

Yeah the spray bottle come with head only rm19, super super affortable , and it come with scale measurement , very convinence

Never know degrease can be use in leather too? But osren do offer leather cleaning in other solution, i mainly buy this for clean wheel only hehe

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: May 24 2017, 01:06 PM

for your information , i been detail since my old car honda city til date already 5 year

On the first year i start detail , i touch the meguiars brand Ultimate Line , which is Ultimate liquid wax , then their clay kit (which i think is so expensive, after know other brand like osren) and Meguiars starter kit , lately i add on Meg Spray wax , Susprine shine and also the Interior Spray cleaner

My routine will be 1 week at least per wash , then 3 month re-apply ULW and maintain the wax with spray wax every 2 week , that time dunno what is swirl/scratch , just know want car licin2 and look kilat2 only

after 2nd year , start to know what is swirl mark / scratch , then i get the ultimate polish and compound , plan to do with hand but only god know , that is almost impossible mission , youtube channel really cheat consumer alot end up the polish and compound just keep in store

until i get the honda civic , i only know swirl/scratch will never disappear even it's brand new car , have to really polish with machine only able to make them out , so grab my DA last month I start to add on Meguiars Leather conditioner , meguiars black , in between i been impress by soft99 advertisment video , their Fusso coat 12 month , Ultra glaco for glass , kiwami high gloss wax , then give them a try , for the first time using paste wax , i feel really really hard to buff off paste wax compared to liquid wax which i just apply and wipe without any effort

End up , i give away the soft 99 fusso + kiwami wax to my friend , continue with ULW , but recently i found my Liquid wax become watering , because due to i keep on my car bonnet and heat up , the liquid like won't dry off

Then u guys intro me OSREN , and the Osren guys been very nice , explain everything for me , and their price is surprisingly CHEAPER than alot of big brand , so give them a try la since it so affordable


this my small collection , but lately will become osren

After grab DA , only learn that paint have soft & hard paint , not really like those youtube channel , put polisher cream , roll over the paint and swirl will gone , it's not that easy to make paint look better is easy , but to make 100% swirl free and scratch free is really challenging

I'm here really have to thank sifu Blurcase & gfwong , they really teach me alot about paint , speed , and combination of cream and pad , thank both sifu

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: May 24 2017, 04:01 PM


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Haha , waiting your , but some product i give away to my friend , and some finish i didn't re-load le , if OSREN product not good , after finish also might try other brand le , next week will start to polish all my swirl , sifu blurcase and gfwong already give me ideal how to get my car swirl free with nice finishing , must do some test spot first


Really !!! The more thing u know , the more thing u will buy , starting from Exterior , waxing , maintenance , then interior , then tire gel , then trim , plastic and blah22222 , the reason why i like Meg liquid so much is because it can apply to all surface , so i no need to buy like head lamp protectant , my honda city head lamp after 8 year stil didn't yellow , but all these collection is collect month by month la , not 1 shoot and get all

Not to mention , those product can be use for really long period if u just doing 1 car maintenance , some of meguiars product like suspine shime , already 3 year++ havent finish yet

i didn't use any foam cannon or water pressure, seriously if ur car is well maintain , u no need those , because after u rinse ur car , u just let the water flow over ur surface so u can make ur surface dry ever faster !!! What make me impress is Soft99 Fusso , it actually can make same effect as coating , so so so water bending , liquid wax mostly after 1 month already wanna die le , so have to use spray wax to boost up again , i like to spray wax because it make my surface licin2 back

Yeah , so this year grab the DA , wanna learn how to polish myself , so take my wife car act as white mouse first , only move to my car

U using their radiant coat 12 too?

If wan durable, soft99 fusso coat 12 month is highly recommend, i combo with kiwami wax , so far 3month le, the water bending is so nice on my civic





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The liquid i havent try yet, did u feel kilat2 and licin2 after apply the radiant 12?



I have a question actually guys , can i apply fusso 12 month as a sealant , then top the liquid wax ? As i know soft99 fusso isnt really make car shine

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: May 24 2017, 11:58 PM

Sifu , finish the video, so in conclusion, top anything on the fusso will change the characteristics and the way coat behaviour, but what the true is fusso isnt a gloss coat, it is more to like water block

so if wanna get something more glossy, just can skip the fusso and looking for some shine wax

And sifu, the water bending is something just to show off or strong water bend will leave less water mark on surface?

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: May 25 2017, 08:29 AM

Thank for correct me bro haha, beading !!!

At first i apply soft99 fusso, and found that why my civic is not as gloss as my wife jazz usin Meg ULW !!!

And then i pm soft99 and they claim fusso isnt for gloss just more to protection , then i bought kiwami + luxury gloss spray wax

So my current ride is soft99 fusso + kiwami top up, then i spray soft99 luxury gloss spray wax every 2 wash , the pic i share in previous post water beading even after the 3rd month counting, so it consider very durable !!!

I haven try the osren liq wax yet, i plan to fusso coat then only apply liq wax to make it more glosssy, as if the liq wax gone, but there is still fusso continue do the water beading and protection job am i correct?

Can we actually mix product? Because at first i plan to use soft99 fusso + ULW, but soft99 telling me dont use other product, get their kiwami lol

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: May 25 2017, 10:02 AM

Haha, u really wax collection, haven finish 1 then wanna try out other brand