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post Jul 6 2017, 09:05 AM

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post Jul 7 2017, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Clicko220 @ Jul 7 2017, 02:45 PM)
What is the best lightning to detect water marks? Sometimes I see sometimes I don't lol. And what is the best car care to remove that? Clay bar after washing will do?
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Try , use cleaner wax see , if stil not work have to compound polish le
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post Jul 13 2017, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(blurcase @ Jul 12 2017, 11:21 PM)
Lol, quite normal. Welcome to the world of enthusiast home detailing. smile.gif

Consider the machine and pads to be longer term investment, as they dont wear as quickly, just the liquids are consumables. Generally home use liquids do last quite long though, cuz we only polish our cars max 1-2 times a year. Unless your house got many cars and u are tasked to maintain them, hehe...
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My ultimate compound + ultimate polish , i borrow to my friend for 3 time used , then done my civic + a little test spot for honda jazz , also can't even finish 1 bottle yet , the polisher is 400ml only , if buy 1L i think can use until next time change car rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


Now learn to apply wax in thin !!! So the wax can used even more car !!! biggrin.gif


For me now , most important is learn how to maintain and use proper way to wash car to reduce scratch and swirl on car surface , so next time no need so susah need do full paint correction , maybe just AIO , or a step of Polishing will job done tongue.gif

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post Jul 13 2017, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(auronthas @ Jul 13 2017, 05:20 PM)
Concur !

My car was coated as I am lazy to wax and polish.  But I am working hard on washing weekly or fortnightly basis, after coating, it really easy to wash, the car surface is smooth and easy to dry.

Nevertheless, the cons is watermark.  If the rain in a dusty day (after drought season), better wash and clean immediately to prevent watermark.

IMHO.
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i think no matter wax or coat , we really hardly avoid watermark especially on horizontal panel , sometime just have to close 1 eyes bangwall.gif


I heard there is solution call acid clean for coating to remove water mark?
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post Jul 13 2017, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(auronthas @ Jul 13 2017, 05:31 PM)
Ya .. close one eye or may be wear sunglasses  cool2.gif  .  My car is red, easy to spot the watermark .  haha

I dunno about the solution you mentioned...
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Have a look here biggrin.gif

http://osren.com/product/coatz/all/05a-pai...rstains-cleaner
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post Jul 15 2017, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Spawnster @ Jul 14 2017, 10:38 AM)
i just waxed front half of my new triton with fusso 12 month...omg...the water beading and sheeting is amazing for RM50. True value there. how should i maintain it now besides the usual washing? should i apply liquid spray wax also monthly?
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Remeber , apply the coat with thin thin thin and thin !!! If possible don't use the sponge that they give , too abrasive to use , the sponge is more suit for apply tyre gel , i using meguiars rm6 application pad for fusso coat , normally i will go very very thin layer , and buff off after 15 min on day time or 20 min night time , it so easy to buff off after i learn how to apply thin biggrin.gif And get some high quality microfiber , osren do have yellow buffing towel , enough good for picking up wax easily

Before this i hate paste wax ,because i apply it like the liquid wax with very thick , now i really have no problem to apply whole car and buff off whole car with paste wax


For my car paint thank god , i don't have any issue with soft 99 fusso coat , now i doing paint correction for my wife jazz and going to fusso coat whole car soon biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

QUOTE(johnchew91 @ Jul 15 2017, 10:10 AM)
Guys, Should I put soft99 Kiwami Extreme Gloss Wax on top of Soft 99 Fusso Coat 12 Months or the other way round?
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Now i use soft99 as stand alone product , as the fusso is so good in water beading , it's better just leave it to do he job , if u apply something on fusso top , u will break the characteristic of fusso coat , u can top anything on top of it for sure , but this just my personal preference & experience biggrin.gif

May i know the reason u wanna top something on fusso coat?

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post Jul 16 2017, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Jul 16 2017, 12:06 AM)
Hi sifus, I need some opinion and suggestions.

I wana know how should i clay a car properly? I watched a few videos but when I do it just now, it didn't get smooth at all. I had a soapy water as lubricant and I was expecting the clay to be smooth and without friction after i run it through the surface for a few times.

I noticed that some of the small tiny contaminant is hard to be removed by the claybar. I need to use my fingernail to scratch it off first before running the clay bar through it with more force.

On top of that, I have some black spots which I think is tar. It is on the surface of the paint which I thought can be removed using the claybar as I read online, but apparently running the clay through it has no effect at all.

I think I did something wrong somewhere. Hope to get some guidance, thanks. sweat.gif

Also, may I know how do you treat stone chips? I noticed my car have quite alot of stone chips on the front, roof and 2 sides. sad.gif

Besides that, how do you guys protect the interior? especially the leather dashboard and the leather seats.

As for the car rim, which car grime/brake dust remover is recommended? Thanks.
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How old is your car and which claybar did u using?
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post Jul 17 2017, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(N33d @ Jul 16 2017, 02:55 PM)
some result from HD speed
IPA wiped to inspect to make sure no filler hidden defect
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post Jul 18 2017, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(Clicko220 @ Jul 18 2017, 06:41 PM)
You serious? buff off fusso coat after 15min? I buff off after 1-2min and it was damn hard to remove. I didn't leave for 15min and don't know what will happen. Not sure after 15min will be more difficult to remove than 1-2min? 1st time using hehe. I turned the included sponge on the can for couple of times and then apply on the car. Not sure its thin or thick coat. The fusso wax on the can look and touch a bit hard, not sure it it like this?
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Yes im serious, 1 to 2 min is too fast , mostly at day time i will wait 10 and 15 min max


I will go in circle motion, after this left to right and up and down, apply very very thin layer, if u found its hard buff , im sure u apply too thick, or u just using too cheapo microfiber?

For first time user, not sure u believe it or not, u can read up all over the world, everyone also facing same problem for first time, because everyone also apply too thick hehe included myself

But for 2nd and 3rd trial, it improve and now i can buff off so easily hehe
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post Jul 20 2017, 12:37 AM

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Finally after 3 week of paint correction , now only have time to share with you guys biggrin.gif Doing panel by panel on weekend , so need longer time to done it

Done with 2 step correction which is Ultimate Compound + white pad , follow by Ultimate Polish + black pad (actually i don't see any different but since i bought the product , so just go ahead and do it)

After this just apply soft99 fusso coat 12 month and it done biggrin.gif Satisfy with the reflection


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And now going to do paint correction for my wife car , already done the right door panel and Fusso coat it biggrin.gif Will be doing all other panel at weekend rclxms.gif

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And here the fusso coat effect even after 3 week (3 wash) , let see how long it can be last biggrin.gif Really super easy to drying car now combo with fireball drying towel rclxm9.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ss-5L9FGa8

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post Jul 20 2017, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jul 20 2017, 08:37 AM)
Expecting to receive my new ride next week, like all new ride owners... motivated to keep it clean and new haha. Any newbie friendly product I could consider? Is the fusso coat 12 months recommended? It is a silver color.
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My honestly advice, no matter how new ur car is, bring it to professional paint correction shop, told them u wanna just doing paint correction (that include clay, compound if neccesary, then fine polish to bring ur car to max gloss and remove all swirl and scratch)

Then learn how to take care, wax, created less chance of swirl and scratch when washing and drying car

I now understand, when people doing coating or waxing 3 or 4 or 5 layer , 80% of the price actually is paying for the paint correction job, a set of coating/wax isnt that expensive if u could buy at outside


So if u didnt learn the skill and tools to take care of your car, then it will be very wasted T_T


If u kind of didnt care about the swirl, scratch , gloss, i would highly recommend u get a Cleaner Wax or AIO , because it got cleaning ability + a little bit of paint correction (depend on brand) while leaving a layer of wax to your ride , with cleaner wax i think u just can skip the clay bar step (i know its better for clay b4 doing any thing on paint but this is how cleaner wax work for not OCD person hehe)

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post Jul 20 2017, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Jul 20 2017, 11:40 AM)
no fun on white paint. no wow factor as the colour is self not sparkling at the first place. it just 'clean' .
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After doing paint correction, my car is now reflect very nicely compared to the first day that i received my car happy.gif , previously after fusso coat i feel my car not shine enough , and bought soft99 kiwami to top it to make more gloss, but now i only have to apply a layer if fusso coat and it more shine and wet look than previously,

Agree with u that white wont pop and wow factor T_T just have to clean and wash car regularly and it will stay good for a long time hehe , but in certain angle and lightining stil can enjoy the wet look of the paint

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post Jul 20 2017, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(lkoky @ Jul 20 2017, 02:48 PM)
How did u do paint correction? by hand or by machine?
I plan to try it on my new car too, but dont have machine; so just have to hand power. Just apply the Ultimate Compound & Ultimate Polish like waxing?
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I'm using machine , Civic pearl white is easy to polish , now headache with Solid White honda jazz , can't do nice finishing bangwall.gif bangwall.gif Need to do few more experiment


QUOTE(g88 @ Jul 20 2017, 04:37 PM)
Can share your view about Fusso and Kiwami ?
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For kiwami , it really gloss your car nicely , summore it can last longer than the Meg Ultimate liquid wax , if fusso beading rate 10/10 , kiwami is around 8/10 , the beading effect really not bad seriously, i can't sure how long does it last because i top it on fusso coat , so maybe when the kiwami wax gone , the fusso doing it job , so my review might be wrong for someone sad.gif But i'm sure the wax is definitely last longer than ultimate wax biggrin.gif


for fusso i have no problem since my honda city b4 transfer to my mum i have try it once (first time apply my hand wan patah because apply too thick) , i think the gloss of my civic now is come from the paint correction that i done more than the effect of fusso coat laugh.gif


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post Jul 20 2017, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Clicko220 @ Jul 20 2017, 07:11 PM)
Liquid wax vs paste wax. Is it true that for similar brand, the paste wax will last a little longer than liquid wax?
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In theory , yes paste wax always more tahan than liquid wax , but liquid wax will be more easy to apply even u salah apply too thick , while paste wax need a little bit of skill that u can't over apply too thick , else u will be quite hard to remove , but also depend on which paste wax u will be using smile.gif

Mostly liquid wax best is to maintain with spray wax , spray every after a car wash

i even heard that if u rajin every car wash and spray wax , u dont even need to wax ur car , just spray and wipe then u good to go
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post Jul 21 2017, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(Clicko220 @ Jul 20 2017, 11:10 PM)
Hmmm i sometimes a bit lazy to wash car if just some dust. I will wipe with ultimate quik detailer, then spray with ultimate quik wax.  thumbup.gif
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If u happy with spray wax, u seriously dont need to wax ur car with any liquid or paste wax, n33d just buy the optimum spray wax in gallon, it claim can tahan 6 month on paper but reliality if spray wax can tahan 1 month also very good le , summore spray wax u can apply on all car surface without worry of stain trim , for my car after do paint correction, i wanna minimize of touching my paint , the lesses i touch i feel that the chance will be minimize too, so i skip any spray wax just go with fusso coat alone


QUOTE(g88 @ Jul 21 2017, 11:21 AM)
different in ease of application + life span only. Thats the fact. Paste get dry and harden/crack, liquid will spoil if chemical seperate/ can't merge back....
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Oo okey understans now , no wonder my ultimate liquid wax will spoil and become watering, wasted rm160 zzzzz
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post Jul 21 2017, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Jul 21 2017, 11:11 AM)
just different form. Same formula. Same like u buy solid block soap and liquid bathing soap...
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Recently i got follow Dallas paint correction & auto detailing youtube chanel, i mean he got he own point , the reason he love to use liquid wax is because it wont mix up dirt

For paste wax or so call solid block soap, it is expose and u never know ur pad is dirt after apply wax in certain area especially at lower bumper, so after this u will put ur pad into the paste wax and then the dirt that stick on ur pad will mix together with the paste wax , like u go restaurnt and there is a solid block soap, so many ppl touch it and u wont know its dirt or clean soap

While liquid wax is u pour out from bottle to pad, so the liquid wax wont mix with dirt that stick on application pad

That quite make sense
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post Jul 21 2017, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(blurcase @ Jul 21 2017, 03:13 PM)
Mmm, based on my personal tub of paste wax that I used for 5-6 years, shrink and crack yes, but harden and dry not really. Even at the last bits of it left, when I whip it up to apply on car, there are still oils and it still dries to a haze like normal before buff off.

Liquid wax on the other hand, what u say is true, over time some liquid wax somehow separate from their oils and doesnt mix back no matter how hard u shake. I was even tempted to pour all into a blender to blend, but decided against it cuz it probably spoil my blender. tongue.gif
Mmm, I think that is a matter of perspective. Wax is usually the last step, means the previous steps of washing, decontamination, claying, etc. all comes before that. If there is dirt that get stuck on pad and transferred back to paste tub then its not paste fault, its user didnt clean well enough. So I think its more important to remember either to either wax areas that are clean and good, and avoid areas that user didnt clean as good, especially below doors and bumpers area.
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Actually the Dallas paint correction point is for those lazy ppl who don wan clay , just wash and using the cleaner paste wax or normal paste wax , then it will be a problem for those user biggrin.gif , for us any wax will do biggrin.gif
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post Jul 22 2017, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(CAL V @ Jul 21 2017, 04:38 PM)
Yeah, will post if it goes well.

I think I blew my budget already, the bulb was a little expensive, the drill I got those cheap ones from China. The cheapest drill I can find locally also 100++ and my cordless drill at home still works fine.
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Im seriously love the light from my note 5 , i have the osren torch but recently found that my samsung camera light find swirl better LOL

Here the video between two , try view it on 1080, previously i hunting a torch pen rm100 or plan diy sun gun , seen now i no need those equiqment already to save my budget happy.gif

Osren torch light https://youtu.be/Ee3pJ6vN6aA

Samsung note 5 camera light https://youtu.be/ZzISpX_KPJo
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post Jul 22 2017, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(CAL V @ Jul 22 2017, 04:00 AM)
From the video, I think the Note 5 light is warmer, so that probably explains why it works better on the white paint.

Most of the newer phones have dual tone flash, my phone also have a warm colour flash. Sadly it gets drowned by the surrounding light during daytime and the silver paint certainly didn't help.
I'm not too sure, they look exactly like other bulbs with the same design, but the solux version is rated at 99% CRI. I can't confirm if it works better in revealing swirls. (I'd imagine the high CRI is very important for people working on painting and refinishing like the original sun gun was intended for)

Atm I think colour temperature is more important with our usage. The right light for the light colour like you suggested before. Probably 2 light source with different colour temp makes more sense and also cheaper. I see lots of detailer on youtube also use normal led floodlight most of the time and only a specific light for final checking.

I went a little overkill on this (want > need) sweat.gif. I'll report back on how it performs.
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That the reason now i doing paint correction at night time biggrin.gif easy to detect swirl , because i once polish at day time and really hard to detect the swirl , end up need to do 2 time job bangwall.gif , doing at night time nice is not hot , can relax2 without rushing , if day time polish will keep sweat cry.gif
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post Jul 22 2017, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(CAL V @ Jul 22 2017, 01:33 PM)
Wah, your neighbor won't kacau? So good
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I always start from 6-9pm should be okey , once a week only not everyday , summore i park my car outside of my parking roof , and for my paint i'm using around speed 3-4 speed for compound and speed 3 for polishing , so it not that loud actually , i even ask my wife while she watching tv , she say didn't really heard the DA sound inside the house biggrin.gif




i'm kind of doing panel by panel , let say today roof , then IPA wipe down and wax , after this continue next week front bonnet + bumper , another week with rear bumper , so i need around 3 week to finish up everything, i feel that if u doing all the way whole car , u will feel very very tired and the feeling will make u won't really wanna do for 2nd time



Detailing should be enjoying , don get yourself tired , i learn from sifu here to detail slow, don rush , doing panel by panel can make u more concentrate to the panel and get more nice result biggrin.gif , if u direct doing whole car , mostly the end of 2-3 panel will cin cai do because already getting tired cry.gif

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