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ar188
post Mar 9 2017, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(deadgriever @ Mar 9 2017, 10:23 AM)
Hi guys..Im new to car detailing. Hoping to get some guide here. Recently bought few items to start.

1. Waxco Car Wash & Shine
2. Meguiar's Compuound
3. Meguiar's Polish
4. Meguiar's Quik Wax
5. Fusso Coat Wax
6. Some cheap MF cloth + drying cloth
7. Cheap foam polisher pad from ebay + grinder/drill adapter 4"
8. Bosch grinder with adjustable speed

I've started polishing with item 7 & 8, however i found it hard to control the heat & motion due to grinder RPM (slowest 2.8k RPM). Might be due to the cheap pad. Im not sure.

So i planned to add either a Rotary or a DA machine. I have a budget around RM600.
Need recommendation on type & brand of machine. Thanks biggrin.gif
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wow..use grinder.. sweat.gif later clearcoat also got one hole. biggrin.gif

anyway, try the osren type or chinese made DA (8mm or 15mm orbit) with megs microfibre 6inch cutting pad,
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Mar 9 2017, 09:36 AM)
Yup i already modi and buy pad from osren , force disc white pad and black pad, it really vibrate alot, the speed not enough fast for cutting , need to do 2-3 pass with very slow motion and can remove all light swirl, but if deep scratch i never try because i just use meg ultimate polish, might try the meg scratch X with grey pad but i think i will invest Osren DA in future , the BD orbit polish can use also just very slow to get job done
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yea try the DA with megs MF cutting pad and using ultimate compound or D300 or M100, sure can cut well.
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post Mar 9 2017, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(deadgriever @ Mar 9 2017, 10:23 AM)
Hi guys..Im new to car detailing. Hoping to get some guide here. Recently bought few items to start.

1. Waxco Car Wash & Shine
2. Meguiar's Compuound
3. Meguiar's Polish
4. Meguiar's Quik Wax
5. Fusso Coat Wax
6. Some cheap MF cloth + drying cloth
7. Cheap foam polisher pad from ebay + grinder/drill adapter 4"
8. Bosch grinder with adjustable speed

I've started polishing with item 7 & 8, however i found it hard to control the heat & motion due to grinder RPM (slowest 2.8k RPM). Might be due to the cheap pad. Im not sure.

So i planned to add either a Rotary or a DA machine. I have a budget around RM600.
Need recommendation on type & brand of machine. Thanks biggrin.gif
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Wah lao, new to detailing straight jump to rotary!
You have meg quik wax you may not need fusso wax? or the other way round?

The guys would recommend Osren DA biggrin.gif
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post Mar 9 2017, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 9 2017, 10:52 AM)
wow..use grinder..  sweat.gif  later clearcoat also got one hole. biggrin.gif

anyway, try the osren type or chinese made DA (8mm or 15mm orbit) with megs microfibre 6inch cutting pad,
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i use the slowest speed which equal to highest speed in rotary. have to be extra careful sweat.gif


QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 9 2017, 10:53 AM)
yea try the DA with megs MF cutting pad and using ultimate compound or D300 or M100, sure can cut well.
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thanks for the recommendation biggrin.gif

QUOTE(linkin182 @ Mar 9 2017, 10:59 AM)
Wah lao, new to detailing straight jump to rotary!
You have meg quik wax you may not need fusso wax? or the other way round?

The guys would recommend Osren DA  biggrin.gif
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Meg quik wax = if not much time to do detailing i use this
Fusso wax = great durability + water beading, poor shine, i use this during rainy season or balik kampung ( trunk road / felda road / no hiway at all )

thanks to all for the advice. why nobody recommend rotary? is it too dangerous for newbie? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(deadgriever @ Mar 9 2017, 11:50 AM)


thanks to all for the advice. why nobody recommend rotary? is it too dangerous for newbie?  tongue.gif
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rotary can cut well but newer advances on DA and the pads/compound makes it as effective
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then we can get swirl free finish by using the same DA with finishing pads. so one machine does two jobs.
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QUOTE(blurcase @ Mar 2 2017, 02:35 AM)
I think that is still reasonable price compared to Meguiars. A bottle of 16oz M100/M101 is about RM200 each, and suppliers in Malaysia dont even sell small bottles of M105/M205, minimum 1gal. With last year GST price increase, it is even more expensive since then.

i tot the brown bottles are 32oz? of 200 is ok. cos usa also around 140 liao for 32oz M100
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QUOTE(deadgriever @ Mar 9 2017, 11:50 AM)
Meg quik wax = if not much time to do detailing i use this
Fusso wax = great durability + water beading, poor shine, i use this during rainy season or balik kampung ( trunk road / felda road / no hiway at all )
thanks to all for the advice. why nobody recommend rotary? is it too dangerous for newbie?  tongue.gif
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hehe I dunno but I DIY, I have this mentality of going the safest route.
I have bought the Megs DA Power Tool and have been practicing on the technique of sponge contact / pressure / angle of attack etc..
So still learning kerb but I believe I'm ready for a step up to a proper DA so can't give you any sound advice smile.gif

Better wait Windskill or Douglas_Tong whom are the thread expert to advice bah biggrin.gif

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post Mar 9 2017, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Mar 9 2017, 01:10 PM)
hehe I dunno but I DIY, I have this mentality of going the safest route.
I have bought the Megs DA Power Tool and have been practicing on the technique of sponge contact / pressure / angle of attack etc..
So still learning kerb but I believe I'm ready for a step up to a proper DA so can't give you any sound advice smile.gif

Better wait Windskill or Douglas_Tong whom are the thread expert to advice bah  biggrin.gif
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Hi, may I know how is the Megs DA Power Tool performance? Thought to get one but what holding me back is worrying lack of torque. I have a Bosch GEX 125 E btw.
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post Mar 9 2017, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(deadgriever @ Mar 9 2017, 11:50 AM)
i use the slowest speed which equal to highest speed in rotary. have to be extra careful  sweat.gif
thanks for the recommendation  biggrin.gif
Meg quik wax = if not much time to do detailing i use this
Fusso wax = great durability + water beading, poor shine, i use this during rainy season or balik kampung ( trunk road / felda road / no hiway at all )

thanks to all for the advice. why nobody recommend rotary? is it too dangerous for newbie?  tongue.gif
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Every tool can be dangerous if one does not know how to handle it. If you want to start with rotary, that's fine too, but make sure you go online and learn the mechanism of rotary polisher and basic techniques of using rotary polisher. Only after that, you can try it out, starting with low speed first.
Once you master rotary, it can be a handy tool in term of paint correction.

The reason many people would not advise beginner to start with rotary is because it could potentially burn paint. And you can probably create severe hologram as well.

QUOTE(linkin182 @ Mar 9 2017, 01:10 PM)
hehe I dunno but I DIY, I have this mentality of going the safest route.
I have bought the Megs DA Power Tool and have been practicing on the technique of sponge contact / pressure / angle of attack etc..
So still learning kerb but I believe I'm ready for a step up to a proper DA so can't give you any sound advice smile.gif

Better wait Windskill or Douglas_Tong whom are the thread expert to advice bah  biggrin.gif
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I not expert la...i also learn from everyone and share my thought only haha

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post Mar 9 2017, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 9 2017, 11:58 AM)
i tot the brown bottles are 32oz? of 200 is ok. cos usa also around 140 liao for 32oz M100
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Oops, sorry, actually it wasnt 16oz or 32oz, cuz in Malaysia got special packing 28oz for M100/M101, black colour bottle. The light brown/cream colour bottles that we see online are 32oz.
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QUOTE(frozen7 @ Mar 9 2017, 03:55 PM)
Hi, may I know how is the Megs DA Power Tool performance? Thought to get one but what holding me back is worrying lack of torque. I have a Bosch GEX 125 E btw.
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wah use wood sanding orbital for polish ah? i think not so suitable leh? those things only got 2-3mm orbit. i have dewalt version, dont do much for polishing.
am now waiting for my 5inch interface pad, gonna try 2000grit wet sanding on it.
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post Mar 9 2017, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(blurcase @ Mar 9 2017, 06:40 PM)
Oops, sorry, actually it wasnt 16oz or 32oz, cuz in Malaysia got special packing 28oz for M100/M101, black colour bottle. The light brown/cream colour bottles that we see online are 32oz.
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oh. usually the black squeeze bottles are like 14-16oz. (similar to ultimate compound bottle)

special packing for malaysia? dun say ppl buy 1gallon and repack it?
i think better stick to 32oz brown bottles..at least we know ori from usa .. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(deadgriever @ Mar 9 2017, 11:50 AM)
i use the slowest speed which equal to highest speed in rotary. have to be extra careful  sweat.gif
thanks for the recommendation  biggrin.gif
Meg quik wax = if not much time to do detailing i use this
Fusso wax = great durability + water beading, poor shine, i use this during rainy season or balik kampung ( trunk road / felda road / no hiway at all )

thanks to all for the advice. why nobody recommend rotary? is it too dangerous for newbie?  tongue.gif
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To add to windskill comments, the other risk when using rotary is clipping/chipping edges of body paint with rotary on too high speed. My staff kena before ripping out 20sen coin size of paint from edge of bumper, lucky it was my car and he was still learning. After that mistake he more to DA and dont dare use rotary liao, haha...
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post Mar 9 2017, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 9 2017, 10:53 AM)
yea try the DA with megs MF cutting pad and using ultimate compound or D300 or M100, sure can cut well.
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I see osren youtube that honda have a sticky paint, meguiars polishiing and compound can work on it? If its just a light wash scratch can the meg scratch x done the job? Because compound seen abit too much for new car paint


The lakecountry force disc pad not good kah? Bought it from osren

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Mar 9 2017, 07:49 PM)
I see osren youtube that honda have a sticky paint, meguiars polishiing and compound can work on it? If its just a light wash scratch can the meg scratch x done the job? Because compound seen abit too much for new car paint
The lakecountry force disc pad not good kah? Bought it from osren
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not sure about osren and lake country on honda paint,
but so far i tried mostly megs product only with some wet sanding cos of some serious oxidation and bird poo on my car. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 9 2017, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 9 2017, 08:59 PM)
not sure about osren and lake country on honda paint,
but so far i tried mostly megs product only with some wet sanding cos of some serious oxidation and bird poo on my car. biggrin.gif
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U using osren DA?
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Hi, im getting a new car and thinking of getting it coated. Which kind of coating should i go for? Glass Coat 9H? any recommended shop in selangor? I appreciate workmanship and quality assurance.
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Mar 9 2017, 10:47 PM)
U using osren DA?
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similar style model, 8mm orbit
next time if buy another model, will try rupes style 21mm
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Mar 9 2017, 07:49 PM)
I see osren youtube that honda have a sticky paint, meguiars polishiing and compound can work on it? If its just a light wash scratch can the meg scratch x done the job? Because compound seen abit too much for new car paint
The lakecountry force disc pad not good kah? Bought it from osren
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Finishing with Osren's Perfect Cut 20, LC White Force pad and normal 8mm S 6) orbit DA (Ultramate/Dodo Juice Buff Daddy/DAS 6) on Honda... kaotim cool2.gif
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QUOTE(deadgriever @ Mar 9 2017, 10:23 AM)
Hi guys..Im new to car detailing. Hoping to get some guide here. Recently bought few items to start.

1. Waxco Car Wash & Shine
2. Meguiar's Compuound
3. Meguiar's Polish
4. Meguiar's Quik Wax
5. Fusso Coat Wax
6. Some cheap MF cloth + drying cloth
7. Cheap foam polisher pad from ebay + grinder/drill adapter 4"
8. Bosch grinder with adjustable speed

I've started polishing with item 7 & 8, however i found it hard to control the heat & motion due to grinder RPM (slowest 2.8k RPM). Might be due to the cheap pad. Im not sure.

So i planned to add either a Rotary or a DA machine. I have a budget around RM600.
Need recommendation on type & brand of machine. Thanks biggrin.gif
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Grinder is tooooooo powerful for car polishing. Normal Rotary polish speed ranges from 0 to 3000 RPM. Grinder 2,800-11,500RPM !!!

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