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post May 3 2016, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(tlts @ May 3 2016, 11:03 AM)
hi.want to ask something
will shop accept if i bring my psu fsp hexa 550 plus for rma without box to rma it?fell like throwing away my box.eat lots of space sad.gif
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Most likely can, do remember to bring your receipt for verification purpose.

QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ May 3 2016, 11:33 AM)
Between this two spec, which should i go for rendering video?

Intel Core i7-5820K Processor - RM1574.00
MSI X99A Raider socket 2011-3 motherboard - RM999.00

or

Intel Core™ i7-6700K Processor - RM1395.00
MSI Z170A Gaming M3 motherboard - RM710.00
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post May 3 2016, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ May 3 2016, 01:39 PM)
Good day to all, I need some recommendations for RIG only.

[Budget] <2.5k MYR

[Purpose] 1080p Video editing using Premier Pro, occasionally light gaming Dota 2/TF2/CS:GO

[Hardwares that will be re-use]500GB HDD, don't need to include HDD in build.

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Google Chrome, Premier Pro,Photoshop, Dota 2,CS:GO,TF2

[Personal preferences] 64Bit Windows needed to be included.

[Location] PJ, Selangor

Thank You. biggrin.gif
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1242
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 289
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 266
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 489
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 145
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149

Total: RM 2580 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

You can do the following to keep below 2.5k:
1. Remove the dedicated GPU if you don't mind to run those games listed with low/medium settings at 1080p60, the iGPU (Intel HD 530) is able to do that.
2. Remove the other 8GB RAM for the time being (not recommended as more memory do benefit video editing/rendering).

If you can accept the extra RM 80 then you can consider sticking to this build.

Windows 10 will be installed for free by ETech (as reported by forumers here).

Another casing option would be Tecware Alpha (RM 199), it comes with 2 front intake fans which can improve the airflow of the rig.
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post May 3 2016, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ May 3 2016, 09:34 PM)
Thanks for the detailed suggestions, do you have any idea when the next gen Intel Proc & Nvdia GPUs will hitting our shores? If it's this year I can wait.
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Nvidia's Pascal is coming soon in June/July while Intel Kaby Lake's ETA is still unknown, but it is rumored to be released in Q3 or Q4 later this year.
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post May 3 2016, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(missysleepy @ May 3 2016, 10:43 PM)
Etech is quite profissional in rigging a new pc judging fr their facebook and they stocks quite a lot of hardwares. But is there anymore shops like them in PJ or Subang? I believe they are also commited in servicing the buyer.
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post May 4 2016, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(wolfster23 @ May 4 2016, 08:03 AM)
Hi Sifus first post on this forum smile.gif

Looking for a rig and monitor set up

B][Budget RM 3000 including monitor]

[Purpose : Hard Gaming AAA titles at mid/ low settings]

[Hardwares that will be re-use : peripherals]

[Monitor resolution : 1080p 21inch would be nice ]

[Games & softwares that use frequently : moba,RPG, try out new games on the market ]

[ something future proof for gaming if possible. A set up without GPU would be fine, I wouldn't mind waiting for polaris and pascal]

[Taiping]
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 804
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 403
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 133
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 363
Tecware Alpha - RM 199
BenQ GW2270 - RM 409

Total: RM 2526 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Pascal and Polaris are very close to release now, since you can wait then just wait for few more months smile.gif

The iGPU (Intel HD 530) that comes with the CPU can run Dota 2 at medium settings (1080p60) for the time being.

Since the power requirement for upcoming card is still unknown so I included a decent 620W PSU in the build so it can support the upcoming high end graphics card.
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post May 4 2016, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(wolfster23 @ May 4 2016, 08:56 AM)
Thanks man for the quick reply. Oh yea just another random newbie question.. Is there any difference in terms of performance between a regular atx and an Matx motherboard??
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Performance difference is negligible, ATX mobo offers more RAM/PCIe/M.2 slots etc, but in this case, the mATX mobo I picked also comes with 4 RAM slots, only PCIe slot is lesser (if you aren't going for SLI/CF setup then this is fine).
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QUOTE(bikerzfrenzy @ May 4 2016, 09:00 AM)
[Budget] <2.5k MYR

[Purpose] google sketchup, autocad, photo/video editing, occasionally light gaming Dota 2

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Google skethup, Photoshop, Dota 2

[Personal preferences] 64Bit Windows 7

[Location] Shah Alam

Intel i5-4460                               RM716
Asus H81M-K                              RM239
Kingston Hyper-X 1866Hz 8GBx2  RM286    (RM143 8GBx1)
Sandisk SSD Ultra II 240GB         RM323    (RM179 Sandisk plus 120GB)
Aerocool V3X                              RM117
WD 1TB Black                             RM329    (RM220 WD 1TB Blue)
PSU FSP Hexa                             RM211
GPU Asus GTX 750 ti                    RM599    (RM299 Asus GT730)

Total                                           RM2820   (RM2424)
Please comment my initial build (RM2820). Is everything ok?

If i want to suit my budget, is the 2nd build ok (RM2424)?

Is it worth it to spent extra rm400 to follow my initial build? Is the performance greatly differ?
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I can only see the first build but not the second build sweat.gif

Edit: Oh I just realised it is listed in the bracket, silly me tongue.gif

This build is one gen newer and cheaper though.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 804
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 289
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 133
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 489
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 195
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149

Total: RM 2440 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

This post has been edited by terence_nwb: May 4 2016, 09:14 AM
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post May 4 2016, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Woodensword @ May 4 2016, 03:20 PM)
I want to build a rig for a game whose minimum requirements are

[CPU] Intel Core i3.
[RAM] 8 GB RAM.
[GPU] nVidia GTX 480.

The build a friend suggested is
[CPU]  Intel i5 6500
[GPU]  MSI GTX 750Ti
[Mainboard] MSI H110M PRO-VH D4
[RAM]  Kingston 8GB DDR4
[HDD]  Seagate 1TB
[PSU]  Cooler Master Elite2 500W

[Budget] RM2600

But do I really need such a good CPU? If I get a cheaper CPU, I can get the Radeon R7 370.

Will getting a cheaper CPU bottleneck the R7 370?

or does anybody have any other suggestions for a better rig?
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What game is that?

R7 370 is considered as low end GPU, we can hardly "bottleneck" it.

BTW, 2.6k can get i5 + GTX960/R9 380 already.
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QUOTE(Woodensword @ May 4 2016, 03:34 PM)
The game is No Man's Sky
You mean i can get
[CPU]  Intel i5 6500
[GPU]  MSI GTX 960
[Mainboard] MSI H110M PRO-VH D4
[RAM]    Kingston 8GB DDR4
[HDD]    Seagate 1TB
For 2600?
??

Please bear with me, I don't know my head from my toes when it comes to PCs.
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 804
MSI H110M Pro-VH (D4) - RM 295
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 133
Asus GTX960 4GB GDDR5 Turbo - RM 954
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 213
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188

Total: RM 2587 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Casing is not included since it never mention in two of your posts.
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QUOTE(bikerzfrenzy @ May 4 2016, 03:38 PM)
1. I try to build with all ASUS hardware. My perception is the quality will be better? Am I right?
2. In your opinion, 8GB RAM will be sufficient? 16GB is over spec / hardly utilize?
3. SSD and HDD write speed perfomance is hardly noticeable?
4. 450W is sufficient? No need 500W

Sorry if i am asking to many question. BTW where is Etech shop? how can I get their pricelist?
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1. Quality better? This is hard to guarantee, but Asus is a "premium" brand in Malaysia so expect its price to be higher than the others, after sales services aren't that good as well as reported by some of the people here, but it's your choice, I never had any issue with other brands though.

2. 8GB is enough for normal consumer, but 8GB DDR4 RAM is cheap nowadays, just top up RM 133 for another stick if you want 16GB.

3. SSD is having huge performance gap with traditional HDD in terms of read and write speed, you won't go back to HDD once you tried SSD, everything flies on SSD even on old school Core 2 Duo PC, but the drawback is its price, the cheapest 120GB will cost you nearly the cost of a 1TB HDD.

4. The build I suggested barely uses > 300W, if you need something future proof then get 550W one (RM 188).

ETech is located in Kepong, you can visit their their lelong store here.
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post May 4 2016, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Woodensword @ May 4 2016, 03:43 PM)
Where is ETech?
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Kepong.

Their online lelong store here.
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QUOTE(TheSecRet @ May 4 2016, 03:33 PM)
If budget around RM3- 4k. It is possible to get a GTX980 GC?
one SSD should be sufficient. 256
Casing - which not to be oversize but at the same time have decent space (probably SLI in 1 or 2 years time. Should be cheap by then.
No monitor needed.
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If you are planning to get high end GPU, I suggest you to wait for upcoming Pascal/Polaris instead which are expected to arrive in next couple of months.

R9 390X is more powerful than GTX980 at same price point, twice the VRAM of GTX980 too (4GB vs 8GB), perhaps you can consider it if you really cannot wait anymore.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 804
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 289
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 133
Gigabyte GTX980 4GB GDDR5 Xtreme Gaming - RM 2126
Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB SSD - RM 305
Seasonic S12II 620W - RM 303
Tecware Alpha - RM 189

Total: RM 4149 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

The mobo picked is the lowest end one, I have no choice because it is already overbudget, if you want a SLI ready mobo, then you gonna top up another RM 400+.
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QUOTE(TheSecRet @ May 4 2016, 05:13 PM)
Oh really? I am not in a rush anyway as long as i buy in year 2016. May i know the model of the mobo that are SLI ready?
So mobo without SLI ready are not eligible to use SLI function?

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There are many models that support SLI, try looking for Z170 series mobo (> RM 700 one), low end Z170 (RM 550 - RM 700) mobo normally doesn't support SLI.

Some example are:
1. Asus Z170 Pro Gaming
2. Gigabyte Z170XP-SLI
3. ASRock Z170 Extreme 4
4. MSI Z170A Gaming Pro

and many more.

Mobo without SLI support won't be able to use SLI.
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QUOTE(imran85 @ May 4 2016, 06:04 PM)
Hi,

I am planning on getting a new PC. I am planning it to use for normal usage + some video editing for youtube and also photo editing.

I am not sure how much to budget. I am hoping for somewhere between the range of 1.5k to 2k. Inclusive of Windows OS. Can you guys suggest a rig?

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Is monitor required?
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QUOTE(mechaweirdxe @ May 4 2016, 07:37 PM)
Hi,

Looking to buy a PC for my dad. Had a look at the previous suggested builds and come up with these from lelong:

AOC 23.6” I2476VWM IPS LED MONITOR - 629.00
INTEL SKYLAKE CORE I5-6500 PROCESSOR - 815.00
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - 195.00
Asus 24X Green Power DVD Writer - 69.00
Corsair Value Select 8GB DDR4 2133MHz - 133.00
ASROCK H110M-DGS/D3 - 250.00
WESTERN DIGITAL 3.5” 1TB - 215.00
ZOTAC GEFORCE GTX 750 TI - 489.00
FSP HEXA+ 450W - 166.00
TECWARE ALPHA ATX CASE - 189.00

Total price: 3,150.00

Any comments? he wouldn't be doing any gaming but i think the rig should at least have a minimum GC right?
or better save the money to topup somewhere else?

Also, is it worth to go for an i7 processor? price wouldnt be an issue.
Just want to ask whether there would be any significant advantages or difference for day to day use compared to the i5?
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If no gaming then no need to spend money on getting dedicated GPU, the iGPU (Intel HD 530) that comes with the CPU is enough for daily task.

And yea you didn't state your usage/purpose of this build, please provide info on this.

The mobo you picked is a DDR3 based Skylake mobo, it cannot work with DDR4 RAM (you picked DDR4 RAM though), so you need to change to other model.
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QUOTE(imran85 @ May 4 2016, 09:50 PM)
No monitor required.
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 804
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 289
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 133
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 145
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149

Total: RM 1735 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Optional upgrade:
1. Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 195

ETech will install Windows 10 for free for their customers (as reported by previous buyers here).
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QUOTE(mechaweirdxe @ May 4 2016, 10:04 PM)
Ah,sorry2. I guess he will only be using for basic picture/video editing,watching movies, playing around with his phone.

Noob question: Would playing higher res videos require a dedicated graphic card? Say later if I wanna connect to hd or 4K tv?

for the board, ill go with the one mentioned in above suggestion.
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For those usage, i5 is more than enough.

Playing 4K UHD video doesn't need dedicated GPU, the iGPU is enough.


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QUOTE(syazwanreno @ May 5 2016, 11:08 AM)
[Budget] Less than RM3K include monitor

[Purpose] DOTA2 max setting @1080p

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] DOTA2

[Personal preferences] ITX form factor. Anything as long as DOTA2 max@1080p

[Location] Shah Alam

My friend want to build a rig just to play DOTA2. Cheaper is better as long as can play DOTA2 max@1080p.

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Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 427
Asus H110I-Plus - RM 369
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 148
Zotac GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 509
Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM 205
Corsair VS450 - RM 169
CM Elite 110 - RM 159
BenQ GW2270 - RM 439

Total: RM 2625 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(familykien @ May 5 2016, 11:24 AM)
[Budget] RM2000 BELOW

[Purpose] main work, download. sub-work is some of office work, some simply photo or graphic edit.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] monitor, speaker, keyboard and mouse will reuse.

[Location] sabah.

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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 470
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 289
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 133
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Bitfenix Nova - RM 149

Total: RM 1418 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(familykien @ May 5 2016, 11:31 AM)
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If you don't game on this PC, then you can go for the cheaper i5 6402P (RM 689), if you do some light gaming, then pick the i5 6400 (RM 754) which comes with a more powerful iGPU (HD510 vs HD 530).

Other parts can remain.

Your usage might not even need an i5 since most of them are simple tasks.

On for 24/7 is not an issue for the hardware, it is all about your airflow, if the ambient temperature (your surroundings) is high, then you can consider buying few casing fans or switch to Tecware Alpha (RM 189) which comes with 2 extra front intake fans. The last resort would be getting a aftermarket CPU cooler if you still aren't satisfied with the temperature.

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