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 PlayStation 4™ Community Official Thread | V14, PS4 Pro Announced - $399 (November 10th)

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post Apr 13 2016, 03:46 PM

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the first was the best. am considering the purchase. if i remember correctly its only one player though right?
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QUOTE(Zeliard @ Apr 13 2016, 03:33 PM)
So glad it is a remake and not a HD of a remastered
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There are rather many "remastered" and "remake" games for PS4, it seems to me that "true" PS4 game library is rather slim. It's already 2/3 years into the current console life cycle, yet many big titles on playstation brand has yet to appear on this current gen console, e.g. Grand Turismo, God of Wars........... The golden years of playstation has already gone? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 13 2016, 03:49 PM)
There are rather many "remastered" and "remake" games for PS4, it seems to me that "true" PS4 game library is rather slim. It's already 2/3 years into the current console life cycle, yet many big titles on playstation brand has yet to appear on this current gen console, e.g. Grand Turismo, God of Wars........... The golden years of playstation has already gone? hmm.gif
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cannot compare to golden age where the graphics were non HD, less interactive and easier to be mapped.
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so far ps4 i only play and finish few truely ps4 games.... one is Infamous Second Son, then MGS5 GZ and Phantom Pain. And i bought that machine 2 years ago already.....

What is left now is Uncharted 4. Guess after this hardly any new exclusive that really make me want to buy.
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post Apr 13 2016, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 13 2016, 03:49 PM)
There are rather many "remastered" and "remake" games for PS4, it seems to me that "true" PS4 game library is rather slim. It's already 2/3 years into the current console life cycle, yet many big titles on playstation brand has yet to appear on this current gen console, e.g. Grand Turismo, God of Wars........... The golden years of playstation has already gone? hmm.gif
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If you understand game production, the same "Gran Turismo" that can be made in 2 years during the PS1 era now takes 6 years to do with the same amount of manpower for today's quality.

Yeah solution; hire more people.

But here's the problem, the amount of so called "artists" and "programmers" dropping out of college far exceeds those who has actual talent. No amount of "press auto to fix shit" buttons in multiple middlewares can solve this growing issue.
So? Hire more people yeah, that's one way. Except these groups of people are too green to do anything, they need to be trained, spoonfed, trained again for months (if not a year or even more) before they get up to speed.

Not as simple as you think. The more advanced this industry goes, then the longer it'll take for games to be made.

Of course, what consumers only care about is if there are games to play. rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 13 2016, 05:16 PM

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do you think they will bring remote play to android or iOS? then can play whilst putting the little one to sleep. read about some stuff but seems shady or may cause damage to the phone blah blah. now just enjoying chrono trigger hahah.
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post Apr 13 2016, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Apr 13 2016, 05:16 PM)
do you think they will bring remote play to android or iOS? then can play whilst putting the little one to sleep. read about some stuff but seems shady or may cause damage to the phone blah blah. now just enjoying chrono trigger hahah.
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ps4 remote play for android , you can download the .apk file via online .. certain xperia models can direct download from playstore , im using xperia z2 so download it from playstore itself ... i do hope ps4 remote play available for ios thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 13 2016, 04:34 PM)
Of course, what consumers only care about is if there are games to play. rolleyes.gif
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Gameplay/graphic complexity alone cannot justify production that stretch too long, everything in our modern days are more complex than previous generation, yet the new product must still be produced in acceptable timeframe for it to be commercially viable. GT aside (considering the insane number of car models in the old version), most other game franchise should still be able to finalized in reasonable timeframe. Microsoft flagship racing Forza for example is a good balance between production time and product quality. It's not commercially ideal for a flagship game to be released at the end of the console life..... If that's the way future flagship games are made, then when can we expect next gen GT for PS5? 7-8years after PS5 debut due to even more robust graphic and racing physics? The game producer need to strike a balance. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(soultaker @ Apr 12 2016, 11:20 PM)
I play COD on PS4 and feel kinda awkward to adjust playing style. Before only play COD on PC. Take time to adapt, but once you familiar with it, it will be easier to navigate using controller than keyboard. Just for shooting accuracy need more time to be expert. Do you have PSN account? Sony had MGS5 as free monthly game before last year. Not sure still if still can bought for free for new PSN user. Maybe you can try Dark Soul or Bloodborne?
I don't think can't adjust it. BTW, what your current display size? I guess 27" (min) for PS4 display.
Where you bought your PS4? Maybe can try to ask the shop for assistance? Or you can try to call Sony.

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I'm using my home 40" TV to play. Resolution nice, but subtitle like sh*t
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Apr 13 2016, 04:31 PM)
so far ps4 i only play and finish few truely ps4 games.... one is Infamous Second Son, then MGS5 GZ and Phantom Pain. And i bought that machine 2 years ago already.....

What is left now is Uncharted 4. Guess after this hardly any new exclusive that really make me want to buy.
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How come MGS GZ and PP can be "truely ps4 games"?
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 13 2016, 04:34 PM)
If you understand game production, the same "Gran Turismo" that can be made in 2 years during the PS1 era now takes 6 years to do with the same amount of manpower for today's quality.

Yeah solution; hire more people.

But here's the problem, the amount of so called "artists" and "programmers" dropping out of college far exceeds those who has actual talent. No amount of "press auto to fix shit" buttons in multiple middlewares can solve this growing issue.
So? Hire more people yeah, that's one way. Except these groups of people are too green to do anything, they need to be trained, spoonfed, trained again for months (if not a year or even more) before they get up to speed.

Not as simple as you think. The more advanced this industry goes, then the longer it'll take for games to be made.

Of course, what consumers only care about is if there are games to play. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(weretiger @ Apr 13 2016, 11:13 AM)
haha... after had my samsung TV for 5 yrs and my ps4 for 5 months.... setup HDMI to tv, bought a HDMI connector coz i have a media center which used to watch movies and an Astro... with limited hdmi input in my TV.

this morning, while i was trying to setup a speaker which i had almost 10 yrs hidden in my store room.... unfortunately cant be used coz not compatible even using the Coaxial cable... anyway, not the point...

while i was having my media center, ps4 all turned on, and suddently i discovered in my TV's source, there is a "Anynet+".. which i do not know what is that. so i select the option and wah laaaa..... it connected to my PS4 ... hahaha....

newbie la.... tak tahu pun can connect via wifi with my ps4 -> samsung TV....

inb4 my own forum

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I know Samsung TV has Anynet+ and PS4 also has Anynet+ but i don't know about the wifi. currently connected my PS4 and Samsung TV with Anynet+ turned on on the PS4. So, when I press PS button on the DS4, PS4 & my TV will turn on without need to use TV remote. I don't connect my PS4 and TV to the internet all the time since I don't have dedicated broadband connection yet but can give it a try. good to know.

QUOTE(gemenilim @ Apr 13 2016, 07:55 PM)
I'm using my home 40" TV to play. Resolution nice, but subtitle like sh*t
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Hahaha, perhaps it's time for you to upgrade TV. Short term solution, sit nearer to the TV.
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post Apr 13 2016, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 13 2016, 07:12 PM)
Gameplay/graphic complexity alone cannot justify production that stretch too long, everything in our modern days are more complex than previous generation, yet the new product must still be produced in acceptable timeframe for it to be commercially viable. GT aside (considering the insane number of car models in the old version), most other game franchise should still be able to finalized in reasonable timeframe. Microsoft flagship racing Forza for example is a good balance between production time and product quality. It's not commercially ideal for a flagship game to be released at the end of the console life..... If that's the way future flagship games are made, then when can we expect next gen GT for PS5? 7-8years after PS5 debut due to even more robust graphic and racing physics? The game producer need to strike a balance.  sweat.gif
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Huh?
"Flagship" games? You mean games that sells consoles by the droves?

TLoU and GTA5 came out near the end of the PS3's life. How much did they sell? Yeah, uncountable.
You're having too much of your own ideas, of what should happen and what shouldn't. And producers striking a balance? Producers has no say on when a game gets released, how did you get that idea?

The way game production is going, the next "GT" or whatever other big sequel will come on the PS4, who knows when? But it'll just get repackaged and remastered for the next gen regardless.

Sorry, games aren't going to get made faster no matter the tools given to developers. Time to accept it or move on.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 13 2016, 10:15 PM)
Huh?
"Flagship" games? You mean games that sells consoles by the droves?

TLoU and GTA5 came out near the end of the PS3's life. How much did they sell? Yeah, uncountable.
You're having too much of your own ideas, of what should happen and what shouldn't. And producers striking a balance? Producers has no say on when a game gets released, how did you get that idea?

The way game production is going, the next "GT" or whatever other big sequel will come on the PS4, who knows when? But it'll just get repackaged and remastered for the next gen regardless.

Sorry, games aren't going to get made faster no matter the tools given to developers. Time to accept it or move on.
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Well, each to their own. What's a forum for if not for expressing opinion? rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 14 2016, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 14 2016, 12:12 AM)
Well, each to their own. What's a forum for if not for expressing opinion? rolleyes.gif
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Back up your opinions with some basis then. smile.gif
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post Apr 14 2016, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Apr 13 2016, 06:58 PM)
ps4 remote play for android , you can download the .apk file via online .. certain xperia models can direct download from playstore , im using xperia z2 so download it from playstore itself ... i do hope ps4 remote play available for ios  thumbsup.gif
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is it the official app or made by the people for the people! hahah. can ps4 controller link up to phone? seems can using cable. or if dont need the touch pad, can use bluetooth.

just DL the app. hope it works well. maybe screen too small for division though hahah. but maybe good enough for helldivers.

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post Apr 14 2016, 10:42 AM

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Remote play with mobile......

https://twitter.com/FrankNgo/status/7203814...4179712/video/1

lagginess is strong in this 1.... maybe is that "mobile".. XD

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Apr 14 2016, 09:18 AM)
is it the official app or made by the people for the people! hahah. can ps4 controller link up to phone? seems can using cable. or if dont need the touch pad, can use bluetooth.

just DL the app. hope it works well. maybe screen too small for division though hahah. but maybe good enough for helldivers.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 14 2016, 02:23 AM)
Back up your opinions with some basis then. smile.gif
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You're really cranky aren't you? Chill out and have a Kitkat (buy your own). cool2.gif
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Apr 14 2016, 10:49 AM)
You're really cranky aren't you? Chill out and have a Kitkat (buy your own).  cool2.gif
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chill la iGamer and SSJBen.
reading your post.....seems like reading a Time Magazine.
your argument is to sophisticated puke.gif
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