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 LYN Christian Fellowship V11 (Group), ALL about Jesus Christ.

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Blindspot61
post Feb 29 2016, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(shioks @ Feb 29 2016, 08:19 PM)
In many churches, there more female than male.  Do expect church members to be wary of a new male visitor or member.
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Territorial instinct. . . brows.gif
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post Feb 29 2016, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Feb 29 2016, 08:23 PM)
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Territorial instinct. . . brows.gif
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aiyah....must protect your sheep mah tongue.gif
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post Feb 29 2016, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Feb 28 2016, 02:16 AM)
Arabs are selfish and cowards people even towards their so called bro and sis in the name of their religion.  I understand about EU stressing so much about humanity but its going to be their downfall because those people (majority) is not going to repay them with kindness.

p/s. there I go 'judging' people again. . . . tongue.gif
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Well, what do you expect EU to do? Oh we Europeans don't worry about their "repaying" us in kindness...

There's time for everything. Time for action later..

QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Feb 28 2016, 02:20 AM)
China don't give a damn about human rights and they know the danger of these people's mentality.
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China...

QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Feb 28 2016, 02:22 AM)
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Wow, looks good. I'll hv to go through the recipe to check if there's any ingredient that I can't find here. Thanks.

I have 1 fried chicken recipe I would like to share with you but I need to check if you can get oyster source @ your place?

Thanks again.
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Yes, there's an Asian shop here but it sells mostly stuffs from Thailand. When I returned from Malaysia, I've make sure I brought back some soy sauce.

Is it the Chinese styled fried chicken? I think my mum (She's Malaysian Chinese) made that before. Taste better than KFC.. tongue.gif

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post Feb 29 2016, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(shioks @ Feb 29 2016, 08:14 PM)
I'm not saying we shall not point out  issues of  church.  That's not the case.  In fact, I had also in the past pointed face blank to a church elder.

In the book of Matthew 7:1-6 where Jesus talks about judging others.  Jesus condemns the habit of criticizing others while ignoring one's own faults.  Christ followers must first submit themselves to God's righteous standard before attempting to examine and influence the conduct of other Christians.  Judging in an unjust manner also includes condemning a wrongdoer without desiring to see the offender return to God and his ways. 

Jesus is not denying the necessity of exercising a certain degree of discernment or making value judgments with respect to sin in others.  We are also commanded to identify false ministers within the church and to evaluate the character of individuals. 


Always remember when we point one finger out, there is always four fingers pointing to yourself.

For the case of kron_ka, I agreed with unknown warrior that we only hear one side of the stories.  But based on the stories presented, I believe the issue is not only the CG or church. 

Every church has issues.  BIG or small.  Church is a place for SINNERS.  Church is also a place full of IDOLS.  Idols as in MONEY, SEX and POWER.

Also, I do not believe you need a recommendation from someone to attend a church service.  A church operates on open door policy unless they suspect you have a different motive.
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That's more like it la. nod.gif

After all those comment I made here, the bottom line is someone should at least suggest to the pastor to spend a couple of minutes during every sermon to highlight how to treat one another sincerely, respecting each other, supporting each others, how we conduct ourselves as a church going Christians is important in the eyes of others after all in God's eyes we are their children thus we are brothers and sisters in Christ. It doesn't matter if this situation did happen to the church or not but it should be the most basic understanding that one should have being a Christian like going to an elementary school.

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post Feb 29 2016, 09:05 PM

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That's the whole purpose of having cell groups when a church becomes too big.
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post Feb 29 2016, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Feb 28 2016, 09:12 AM)
Not gf issues la. Its a long story. I also dont know how to explain to my gf if I want to change church, she will think there is something wrong with me.

At same time, i hvg dilemna to go to her church, because my ex is attending her church.

Moreover, I can't just walk into a church like that. I need somebody to recommend me. Of course I can find my own way, call up church ask for cg, etc etc. But churches distrust outsiders, particularly the single guys who are yet to marry. I always find they have this kind of security issues and suspicioun towards single guys. I sort of experienced it before. So I want to wait and see approach.
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Are you afraid of your GF? hmm.gif

Just tell her you want to change church. Tell her DUMC giving you massive headache.. hehe...

Why do you need recommendation? hmm.gif

Just go and survey the churches out there. Plus, it is a cool experience to meet new friends.
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post Feb 29 2016, 09:07 PM

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yeah..."survey" the churches.

sometimes it is interesting to observe how different churches worships.


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post Feb 29 2016, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 29 2016, 11:22 AM)
If you're asking what should the believer do, I wouldn't know. Like I said, the said believer maybe totally devastated to the point she's not in the position to do anything, thus it will take on another believer to pray and care for the person. If the said believer is conscious, then my take is for that person to spend time with God not like any other time, to aggressively seek God like really aggressive... refusing to give up until she can hear from God, to receive instruction on what to do.

If you're asking whether she should take on her own life in suicide?

First of all only & only she alone makes that decision, no one else can forcefully decide for her. The basis of saying the Bible forbids suicide is base on hard and fast rule, 1 is 1, 2 is 2, there are no in betweens. Some people say suicide is an unforgivable sin, some say otherwise.

Interestingly there isn't really Thou Shalt not suicide commandment. Most commentary linked suicide with the 6th commandment, do not murder which imo is not suicide.
The definition of murder is; the unlawful killing of another human being with malice or the killing of another human being without justification or valid excuse.

Suicide is often not an overnight decision and one should not dismiss it as something so simple, it is not.

However the New Covenant living is not about hard and fast rule.

Jesus made that quite clear when He healed people on the Sabbath. According to the High Priest, they take the law to the tip of the letter; there can be no form of work even healing on a Sabbath and Jesus says this interestingly.

Then he asked them, "If one of you has a child or an ox that falls into a well on the Sabbath day, will you not immediately pull it out?" And Again Jesus exhibited this when He and his disciple pick heads of grain and eat them on the sabbath. (Matthew 12:1)

With that being said; Only God alone is the rightful judge on what is right or wrong. Whether the believer who committed suicide will end up in heaven is something only God decide.

This explanation of suicide maybe beyond the scope of your intended question...but hey..just in case.
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Oh no. I'm not asking whether the person (believer or not) to commit suicide.

Yeah I always thought that suicide is linked with "Thou shall not murder."

Then there are those individuals (who have psychological problems) who committed suicide..

Does a church provide counselling for these individuals?


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post Feb 29 2016, 09:25 PM

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What the heck is a lalabeng?
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post Feb 29 2016, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 29 2016, 09:16 PM)
Oh no. I'm not asking whether the person (believer or not) to commit suicide.

Yeah I always thought that suicide is linked with "Thou shall not murder."

Then there are those individuals (who have psychological problems) who committed suicide..

Does a church provide counselling for these individuals?
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Of course. Churches always provide counselling for such individuals.
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post Feb 29 2016, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 29 2016, 08:58 PM)

Is it the Chinese styled fried chicken? I think my mum (She's Malaysian Chinese) made that before. Taste better than KFC.. tongue.gif
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No sure if they are the same.

Its a very very simple recipe I learned from one of my relative.

10 chicken wing (cut into 2 pieces). Wash and wipe dry

6~8 shallots & 2 clove of garlic grind/mince.

2 table spoon of ginger juice (pound from fresh ginger)

3 table spoon of oyster source

dash of pepper and salt to taste.

In a bowl, mixed all ingredient thoroughly together with the chicken wing.

Marinate for an hour (put in the fridge) then fried to golden brown.

Serve hot.
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post Feb 29 2016, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 29 2016, 09:27 PM)
Of course. Churches always provide counselling for such individuals.
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I see. I'm attending my church Bible adult class. So one of the topic is about "Youth suicide."


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post Feb 29 2016, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 29 2016, 09:32 PM)
I see. I'm attending my church Bible adult class. So one of the topic is about "Youth suicide."
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Usually over BF/GF relationship.

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post Feb 29 2016, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Blindspot61 @ Feb 29 2016, 09:29 PM)
No sure if they are the same.

Its a very very simple recipe I learned from one of my relative.

10 chicken wing (cut into 2 pieces). Wash and wipe dry

6~8 shallots & 2 clove of garlic grind/mince.

2 table spoon of ginger juice (pound from fresh ginger)

3 table spoon of oyster source

dash of pepper and salt to taste.

In a bowl, mixed all ingredient thoroughly together with the chicken wing.

Marinate for an hour (put in the fridge) then fried to golden brown.

Serve hot.
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My mum used flour, cornstarch, vegetable oil and chicken breast instead.

I think I'll ask her to try that.

Thanks dude.
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post Feb 29 2016, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 29 2016, 09:37 PM)
Usually over BF/GF relationship.
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I see. Sometimes its because of parents issues as well.

Last time when I was in high school, one of the kid committed suicide because she's mixed. Eurasian.

Because she can't take the bully anymore, she decided to kill herself. ohmy.gif


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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 29 2016, 09:42 PM)
I see. Sometimes its because of parents issues as well.

Last time when I was in high school, one of the kid committed suicide because she's mixed. Eurasian.

Because she can't take the bully anymore, she decided to kill herself.  ohmy.gif
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Peer Pressure to the need to be accepted.

If only youth realize being accepted by God is much bigger deal.

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post Feb 29 2016, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 29 2016, 09:57 PM)
Peer Pressure to the need to be accepted.

If only youth realize being accepted by God is much bigger deal.
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Yup peer pressure. I dress like those Goth chicks when I was young.

Boy oh boy, my parents had constant heart attacks back then.

Luckily it was just a phase...hehe...
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 29 2016, 10:02 PM)
Yup peer pressure. I dress like those Goth chicks when I was young.

Boy oh boy, my parents had constant heart attacks back then.

Luckily it was just a phase...hehe...
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Gothic.

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post Feb 29 2016, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 29 2016, 10:15 PM)
Gothic. 
Same la.

Goth chicks are usually artistic and intelligent individuals. laugh.gif

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So UW, you got kids right? Wait till your kids give you heart attack.. laugh.gif



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