No where that I say you are not entitle to your own opinion. You are entitle to your own opinion.
What I disagree with is the way you go about doing it that is annoying others - your attitude and your ego.
Now, I am not saying others does not behave in an annoying way too but do bear in mind you are a pious church going Christian with a potential to be a pastor and you are suppose to bear witness as a Christian, showing tolerance and patience and what a good trait a Christian should have. As in my much earlier post here in your forum (#280), I did mentioned that being a frequent church goer, you must watch yourself, what is expected of you and how you hold yourself as a Christian.

Stop all those *****hit about church goers are human too. THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER when they go to church frequently without fail, read the Bible - they should know better on how to carry themselves. Unless, they are not paying attention in church or are sleeping.

You may not know or realize it, but you have the tendency to annoy just because they have some doubt and questions to ask.

If you are a teenager, maybe I'll just let it go knowing kids are kids but I understand you are a grown man.

A very good example is your reply to my last post. You KNOW very well what I mean but you just like to annoy people with your reply.

No where that I say you are not entitle to your own opinion. You are entitle to your own opinion.
What I disagree with is the way you go about doing it that is annoying others - your attitude and your ego.
Now, I am not saying others does not behave in an annoying way too but do bear in mind you are a pious church going Christian with a potential to be a pastor and you are suppose to bear witness as a Christian, showing tolerance and patience and what a good trait a Christian should have. As in my much earlier post here in your forum (#280), I did mentioned that being a frequent church goer, you must watch yourself, what is expected of you and how you hold yourself as a Christian.

Stop all those *****hit about church goers are human too. THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER when they go to church frequently without fail, read the Bible - they should know better on how to carry themselves. Unless, they are not paying attention in church or are sleeping.

You may not know or realize it, but you have the tendency to annoy just because they have some doubt and questions to ask.

If you are a teenager, maybe I'll just let it go knowing kids are kids but I understand you are a grown man.

A very good example is your reply to my last post. You KNOW very well what I mean but you just like to annoy people with your reply.

Hmm.

This seems to be a good point to say very sorry to everyone we have offended, knowingly or unknowingly

Then we can all start afresh and fellowship like civilized people.

What say you UW?

Hmm.

This seems to be a good point to say very sorry to everyone we have offended, knowingly or unknowingly

Then we can all start afresh and fellowship like civilized people.

What say you UW?

Give me a minute, I want to address his views on this that has lead him to stay away from Church for sometime.

Not the right approach

Sincere apologies first.

All other issues later

I think this is the core problem.

True, I don't deny what you said about your expectation about all that and bearing witness that is expected

But you must understand we are all Work in progress, every Christian is. Every Christians that goes to Church every week are being mold. There are no overnight work.

So to say Churchgoers are human too is valid. That is supported in the Bible. Read Philippians 3:13.

God is the one working in our lives changing us step by step. Read 1 Thessalonians 5:23-24

If God is patience working in our lives, And he is the one who is changing us, Why are you being impatience... more than God is?

And cannot see us gracefully as how God sees us?

Thank you. You done nothing wrong.
Apology should not come from you. 

So who are your other nicks? 

Well, I did label Cyber a troll.

Give me a minute, I want to address his views on this that has lead him to stay away from Church for sometime.

Can you be more specific as to who is 'his (he)'? Misunderstanding is growing strong now a day. . Thank you. 

I wanted to write this and I typoed to his. Aduih...

I have no qualms with you. In fact you have been so nice as to recommended me a nice anime movie/drama, am I right?

So, I do sincerely hope you won't get involve with what's going on.

Appreciate if you read my post properly. I mentioned a frequent church goer, didn't I?

I am not that unreasonable to expect an overnight change for those occasional or new church goers. If that is so, I am wrong.

If God is patience working in our lives, And he is the one who is changing us, Why are you being impatience... more than God is?

And cannot see us gracefully as how God sees us?

OK, The point is you 'knowingly' did that when you have been quoting Bible verses without fail. And how do you expect people to believe you when on 1 hand you quote Bible like a pro and on the other hand you 'throw' everything you quote out of the window with your annoying attitude? And now you bring God into the picture? I am not GOD. Everywhere expectation is the same, be it religion or professional, you need to safe guard on certain expectation of you.

To me, that is minor issue. What UW did is too great to let go as a Christian.

To be fair, with an open mind, you guys can go through all the posts. Others are at fault too, I acknowledge that but he cannot get away from being faultless.

As a friend, I think you guys should 'knock' something into his nutshell, else, sometimes you are defending a guy who might not be worth defending cause in doing so, you may unknowingly ruin the reputation of Christians.

My sincere words and advise.

Thank you 

Haha,

I knew you are going there. I purposely # the number to see how you will react and its so predictable.

Another reason why I took the trouble to search my earlier post rather than just type it in is I want others to see too.

You are full of suspicion. I wonder, what have you been learning in churches all this while.

My other nicks?  Blindspot?  True-Warriors?  Sylar111?  Cyber?  Tinarhian? 

You still don't get it?  Do you know why? 

You had said what's happening now is spiritual warfare and blah blah blah.  But do you know what is spiritual warfare?  What you need to do first before going into a spiritual warfare?

Your pride has eaten you alive now as you are not able to see it.

I think you need to be knock on the head as well.

You shy away from going to church because of this problem.

You look to people, hence justify yourself in judging Christians.

Do you know when I go to Church, I never put my expectations on any pastors or leader because I understand we are all imperfect vessel?

Jesus taught me that lesson. Yes He really did.

Because of that I've been going until now.....learning and still is learning that ultimately God is the one we should be seeking whenever we go to Church not looking at which leader is at fault, who didn't threat you right.

No myself is a work in progress just like every other Christians. All Christians are. Doesn't matter even if that person is a pastor. There are no perfect Christians but of course there are limits that should not be beyond reproach like sexual promiscuity, etc.

If you agree that I have the right to my opinion and to differ then I will differ. Perhaps that is annoying to you but I'm quite clear in my conscious to quote Bible verse is nothing to be ashamed of.

Different Christians have different opinions. Some Like Andycarolls feels that it's okay to tell non believers they are going to hell while I don't feel that's the best approach. So you see, we all are of different character.

But to say that I'm wrong in quoting scripture because I annoying and that is wrong....I don't agree loh. God created each of us differently.

I think you need to be knock on the head as well.

You shy away from going to church because of this problem.

What may have disappointed you the last time, you now try to rectify it, thinking that I'm represented in the disappointment of your past experience with others.

Hence your this endeavor. You look to people, hence justify yourself in judging Christians.

Can I share with you why I don't have such problem?

Do you know when I go to Church, I never put my expectations on any pastors or leader because I understand we are all imperfect vessel?

Jesus taught me that lesson. Yes He really did.

Because of that I've been going until now.....learning and still is learning that ultimately God is the one we should be seeking whenever we go to Church not looking at which leader is at fault, who didn't threat you right.