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Lord Jesus Will Be Coming Soon , Amen
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It was such hot weather today despite afternoon shower rain, it still hot at night now.........
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Feb 15 2016, 09:45 AM
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ALL ACTIVITIES NOT OF GOD AND VOID OF GOD BEING RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES
The difference between believing into Christ and believing in religion is that in believing into Christ it is God who seeks man, whereas religion requires man to seek God. What is religion? Religion is man’s belief in and reverence for God; it is man’s consciousness that there is a God and his consequent desire to worship Him. Man believes in a religion because in his consideration there is a God, and he is thus determined to serve Him, worship Him, probe into Him, study Him, survey Him, and be zealous for Him. However, believing into Christ is not like this. Believing into Christ is God’s coming to seek man, desiring to enter into man and desiring man to serve Him. According to the common concept, people often ask, “What is the difference between Christianity and religion?” Or they may ask, “Is Christianity a religion?” To answer this question cautiously, we must say that Christianity is not a religion. The Lord Jesus never used the word religion during His ministry on the earth. Likewise, the apostles never used the word religion in their preaching of the gospel. Although Christianity is considered to be one of the five major religions in the world, the fact is that believing into Christ is not believing in a religion. We also can explain this by saying that those who truly believe into Christ are Christians, not followers of the Christian religion. What does it mean to believe in a religion? People believe in a religion because they feel that there is a God and that they need to revere and serve God. However, those who believe into Christ are not like this; they are not like those who worship God out of their own initiation because they sense that there is a God and feel that they should worship Him. Every instance of man’s believing into Christ is initiated by God. It was God who came to seek Moses while he was shepherding the flock (Exo. 3:1-6); it was God who came to seek Saul while he was kicking against the goads (Acts 26:13-15); and it was God who said to Peter and Andrew while they were fishing, “Come after Me” (Matt. 4:18-20). It is wonderful that in the entire Bible, whenever a person has contact with God, it is always because God has contacted him first. God first came to find Job, and then Job served Him (Job 38:1—42:6); God first came to find Moses, and then Moses served Him (Exo. 3). There is no case in the Bible where a person served God because he first had the thought of serving God. The entire Bible speaks only of God coming to find man. One day Isaiah saw a vision and heard the voice of the Lord, saying, “Whom shall I send? Who will go for Us?” Therefore, he answered, “Here am I; send me” (Isa. 6:1-8). After seeing a vision, Jeremiah rose up to prophesy to the Israelites the words that Jehovah had commanded him (Jer. 1:4-19). Daniel also saw a vision before he rose up to fast and pray, beseeching Jehovah to restore Jerusalem (Dan. 7—9). The entire Bible shows that God first comes to find man before man serves God. Those who believe in a religion take the initiative to serve God; those who believe into Christ serve God after they have been prompted and touched by God. For this reason we say that one should not rush forward to serve God. We should serve God only when He touches us to do so. If we serve God without God first touching us, we are in a religion. Figuratively speaking, many people today hang the sign “Christian” outside, but they are engaging in a religious enterprise inside. They are Christians in name but religious people in reality. What is it to be a Christian? A Christian is one who has Christ stirring within him through the Spirit and who thus becomes restless and has no choice but to serve God. A religious person, on the other hand, is one who initiates his service to God, desiring to do many things for God. This is the situation of many Christians today. They do not wait for the Lord to move in them and then follow Him accordingly. Instead, they themselves are the initiators, and the Lord is merely a spectator. However, in the experience of genuine Christians, the Lord is the One who initiates, and they simply say Amen. The Lord is the Initiator, and they are the followers. This is completely different from the way of religious people. The principle here is to not move until the Lord moves in us. However, most Christians are not this way. In the past, when pursuing fame and position in the world, they were accustomed to rushing ahead. Now that they have been saved, the moment the Lord touches them a little, their old habit is manifested again. They rush ahead to organize a Christian fellowship to carry out a work on a campus, and they plan to invite a few great pastors and host a great evangelical meeting. All these matters are initiated by themselves. Hence, they become religious people who do not allow Christ to move in them and live out through them. What does it mean for you to be a Christian? It means that when Christ moves in you, you follow His moving. If one day He says, “My child, come to Me,” you then should ask, “Lord, what do You want me to do?” After Paul met the Lord, the first words he spoke were, “Who are You, Lord?” The Lord then told him, “I am Jesus, whom you persecute. But rise up and enter into the city, and it will be told to you what you must do” (Acts 9:5-6). From the first day Paul met the Lord, he learned a lesson, realizing that all the things he did formerly were merely religious activities. He was zealous for the Lord, going to the high priest for letters to Damascus for the synagogues so that if he found any who were of the Way, he could bring them bound to Jerusalem (vv. 1-2). Going to Damascus was something determined by Paul. However, when the Lord met him, he fell down, saying, “What shall I do, Lord?” (22:10). All his actions from then on were of the Lord. When the Lord moved in him, he moved; when the Lord did not move, he did not move. All his moving outwardly was the Lord’s moving inwardly. As Christians, we have One who is moving in us. When He moves, we move. Nevertheless, we are not puppets, having no feelings, thoughts, affections, or opinions. We are living beings; we have a mind, emotion, and will as well as inclinations and preferences. Thus, we are not passive; instead, we are cooperative and submissive. To be submissive is to go along with the One who is moving in us. This is our oneness with the Lord. It is only when the Lord moves in us that we move. This is the way a Christian should be. In this way, we are led by the Lord. In other words, we understand the Lord’s will and know the Lord’s way in us. |
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Feb 15 2016, 09:45 AM) ALL ACTIVITIES NOT OF GOD AND VOID OF GOD BEING RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES come pehkay, be a blessing here The difference between believing into Christ and believing in religion is that in believing into Christ it is God who seeks man, whereas religion requires man to seek God. What is religion? Religion is man’s belief in and reverence for God; it is man’s consciousness that there is a God and his consequent desire to worship Him. Man believes in a religion because in his consideration there is a God, and he is thus determined to serve Him, worship Him, probe into Him, study Him, survey Him, and be zealous for Him. However, believing into Christ is not like this. Believing into Christ is God’s coming to seek man, desiring to enter into man and desiring man to serve Him. According to the common concept, people often ask, “What is the difference between Christianity and religion?” Or they may ask, “Is Christianity a religion?” To answer this question cautiously, we must say that Christianity is not a religion. The Lord Jesus never used the word religion during His ministry on the earth. Likewise, the apostles never used the word religion in their preaching of the gospel. Although Christianity is considered to be one of the five major religions in the world, the fact is that believing into Christ is not believing in a religion. We also can explain this by saying that those who truly believe into Christ are Christians, not followers of the Christian religion. What does it mean to believe in a religion? People believe in a religion because they feel that there is a God and that they need to revere and serve God. However, those who believe into Christ are not like this; they are not like those who worship God out of their own initiation because they sense that there is a God and feel that they should worship Him. Every instance of man’s believing into Christ is initiated by God. It was God who came to seek Moses while he was shepherding the flock (Exo. 3:1-6); it was God who came to seek Saul while he was kicking against the goads (Acts 26:13-15); and it was God who said to Peter and Andrew while they were fishing, “Come after Me” (Matt. 4:18-20). It is wonderful that in the entire Bible, whenever a person has contact with God, it is always because God has contacted him first. God first came to find Job, and then Job served Him (Job 38:1—42:6); God first came to find Moses, and then Moses served Him (Exo. 3). There is no case in the Bible where a person served God because he first had the thought of serving God. The entire Bible speaks only of God coming to find man. One day Isaiah saw a vision and heard the voice of the Lord, saying, “Whom shall I send? Who will go for Us?” Therefore, he answered, “Here am I; send me” (Isa. 6:1-8). After seeing a vision, Jeremiah rose up to prophesy to the Israelites the words that Jehovah had commanded him (Jer. 1:4-19). Daniel also saw a vision before he rose up to fast and pray, beseeching Jehovah to restore Jerusalem (Dan. 7—9). The entire Bible shows that God first comes to find man before man serves God. Those who believe in a religion take the initiative to serve God; those who believe into Christ serve God after they have been prompted and touched by God. For this reason we say that one should not rush forward to serve God. We should serve God only when He touches us to do so. If we serve God without God first touching us, we are in a religion. Figuratively speaking, many people today hang the sign “Christian” outside, but they are engaging in a religious enterprise inside. They are Christians in name but religious people in reality. What is it to be a Christian? A Christian is one who has Christ stirring within him through the Spirit and who thus becomes restless and has no choice but to serve God. A religious person, on the other hand, is one who initiates his service to God, desiring to do many things for God. This is the situation of many Christians today. They do not wait for the Lord to move in them and then follow Him accordingly. Instead, they themselves are the initiators, and the Lord is merely a spectator. However, in the experience of genuine Christians, the Lord is the One who initiates, and they simply say Amen. The Lord is the Initiator, and they are the followers. This is completely different from the way of religious people. The principle here is to not move until the Lord moves in us. However, most Christians are not this way. In the past, when pursuing fame and position in the world, they were accustomed to rushing ahead. Now that they have been saved, the moment the Lord touches them a little, their old habit is manifested again. They rush ahead to organize a Christian fellowship to carry out a work on a campus, and they plan to invite a few great pastors and host a great evangelical meeting. All these matters are initiated by themselves. Hence, they become religious people who do not allow Christ to move in them and live out through them. What does it mean for you to be a Christian? It means that when Christ moves in you, you follow His moving. If one day He says, “My child, come to Me,” you then should ask, “Lord, what do You want me to do?” After Paul met the Lord, the first words he spoke were, “Who are You, Lord?” The Lord then told him, “I am Jesus, whom you persecute. But rise up and enter into the city, and it will be told to you what you must do” (Acts 9:5-6). From the first day Paul met the Lord, he learned a lesson, realizing that all the things he did formerly were merely religious activities. He was zealous for the Lord, going to the high priest for letters to Damascus for the synagogues so that if he found any who were of the Way, he could bring them bound to Jerusalem (vv. 1-2). Going to Damascus was something determined by Paul. However, when the Lord met him, he fell down, saying, “What shall I do, Lord?” (22:10). All his actions from then on were of the Lord. When the Lord moved in him, he moved; when the Lord did not move, he did not move. All his moving outwardly was the Lord’s moving inwardly. As Christians, we have One who is moving in us. When He moves, we move. Nevertheless, we are not puppets, having no feelings, thoughts, affections, or opinions. We are living beings; we have a mind, emotion, and will as well as inclinations and preferences. Thus, we are not passive; instead, we are cooperative and submissive. To be submissive is to go along with the One who is moving in us. This is our oneness with the Lord. It is only when the Lord moves in us that we move. This is the way a Christian should be. In this way, we are led by the Lord. In other words, we understand the Lord’s will and know the Lord’s way in us. http://www.christianforums.com/threads/wwj...eplies.7928969/ http://charismaticcentral.com/forum/thread...y-replies.21237 |
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Bible Devotion
Why did Jesus unleash the Law? QUOTE John 1:17 (NIV) - For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. There are many people who are still ignorant about the Laws of God, unable to divide properly whom the Law came for. The Bible stated very clearly, God created the Law for the unrighteous. Everybody on this planet has a conscious Moral laws written on their conscience. Nobody is exempted from this. They have to suppress this truth in order to live a different lifestyle other than what God has in mind a righteous lifestyle that is naturally to live by. For the Believers, we are put under Grace and not the Law. John 1:17 says the Law came through Moses BUT GRACE and TRUTH came through Jesus Christ. According to John 1:17, Jesus did not come to give the Law, He came to dispense Grace and Truth. But if you read in the synoptic Gospels, Jesus DID unleash the Law many times and that many times it is of higher requirement, one that actually stop you in your track and make you think if you're able to. If anyone is honest enough to admit, you'll know nobody can keep it perfectly or at least consistently perfectly. And yet the question remain why. The Big Question.............. Why did Jesus unleash the Law? You know, before I proceed to answer, I'll say this straight away, and I want you the reader to keep this in mind; The Law was never God's main agenda. God started in the Old Testament with Grace and Ended in the New Testament with Grace. The Law crept in between. So back to the question why did Jesus unleash the Law? The Answer is found in this passage Romans 7:21-25 21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin. The purpose of the Law is designed to drive Man to the end of Himself. "Oh what wretched Man I am! Who will rescue me? (Romans 7:24) Galatians 3:19 Says it very clearly in NIV ver: Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. What Galatians 3:19 means is that the Law was given to show up your Sins. It was NOT designed to justify you. It Cannot. Only the Blood of Christ can. So if you take the Sum Total of the verses in understanding why did God give the Law and Why Jesus unleashed the Law, you'll come to understand: The Purpose of the Law is to help you understand you cannot by your own merits justify yourself to God. It is impossible. You need Christ the Saviour and that is GRACE dependant. Just Check in the Bible and you'll find this to be true. Jesus unleashed the Law whenever anyone wants to come to God via the Law. Check the Parable of the Rich young Ruler, Check the Stoning of the Prostitute at the Temple, Check the Parables that Jesus spoke whenever He was surrounded by Crowd of Pharisees. And Also Check this in the Bible, you'll find this to be true. Jesus unleashed Grace whenever anyone comes to Him and needed his Grace. Check the Lame Man carried by the 4 friends, Check the story of the Blind, The Leper, the Prostitutes. No Laws Given, Only Grace! Check Zacchaeus the tax collector! So as a New Covenant believer, we need to be soaked in the Grace and Truth of our Lord Jesus Christ and not the Law else we will face a dead end. God Bless. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 15 2016, 11:36 AM |
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I can't sleep due to the many fireworks working on now, it's much more nosier compared to 1st day midnight
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 16 2016, 01:18 PM) Christ Is Enough composed from the hymn I've Decided to follow Jesus, a great song indeed I found another one here Agnus Dei by Michael W. Smith This song reminded us of the Glory of the Lord and how Holy is He and that Jesus Son of God is a Worthy Lamb of God |
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A God who cares.
Psalm 116:5-6 5 The Lord is gracious and righteous; our God is full of compassion. 6 The Lord protects the unwary; when I was brought low, he saved me. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 16 2016, 02:07 PM |
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Found another song by Martin W. Smith
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The Laws of God cannot make you Holy
Romans 5:20 (NIV) The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, When we see Sin increases what do we do? Preach more on the Laws? That is like adding wood to the fire. The more you emphasize on the Law, the more the Trespass increases! What is antidote? The answer is right there in the same passage. GRACE! This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 16 2016, 04:42 PM |
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Feb 16 2016, 05:25 PM
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When I saw Pehkay and Uw's text I was like 'okay i need to make sure I get enough sleep for this. It reads major'
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Just came back from China.
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