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post Jul 8 2021, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 8 2021, 01:19 PM)
that part in the bold..
exactly....
yup...
exactly..... EXACTLY!!!!  ...... EXACTLY !!!!! ....... EXACTLY !!!!!!
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The increasing font size! laugh.gif

Later I kena tampar for giving comments on uncle Buffett
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post Jul 8 2021, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 8 2021, 02:33 PM)
how is it out of context when it's clearly mentioned good company and don't time the market?

the it's the reader's job to know what is good, isn't it? on the part don't time the market it's pretty self explanatory.

but in the event you cannot find even one good company in a thousand stocks, then it's best to stay away from the market, yes?
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It's relative isn't it? There are thousands of companies here, locally. In comparative, there are another thousands of companies out there which are definitely doing better than what we have here.

All we are doing is actually timing the market. Boon had already explained them. The time we buy, and the time we sell. For instance, fa is your way, you too need to identify the best entry point and that's timing the market, isn't it? It's almost impossible to just say, this company is good and I'm gonna keep on buying it regardless of the time; when the growth stops, I'm gonna sell, that's timing the market too albeit on a slower timeframe because qr is every 3 months apart.

And I'm not a pure chartist. I started off with value investing as well and have been holding stocks for years too. laugh.gif


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post Jul 8 2021, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 8 2021, 04:05 PM)
Trading doesn't have to be based solely on charts.
Trading can be intelligent too!
However, most important, is we play the market the best way we know how.
p/s ... if we carefully go thru Edwin's book, there is so many similarities between what old man Buffett says and what Edwin wrote....  icon_idea.gif

go figure .....  cool2.gif
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Want my help to compile the things you've been writing for years and make it into a pdf and spread across? laugh.gif

Like you said, there's no need to complicate stuff, trade/invest in the easiest way. Don't go against the headwind. Find tailwind. biggrin.gif

Ada more tailwind boon? Come share share. tongue.gif

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post Jul 9 2021, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jul 9 2021, 03:13 PM)
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I think ah boon is still waiting for the earnings to go kaboom especially the manufacturing part which yet to be realized, plus the environment is not too good for him to trade easily laugh.gif
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post Jul 9 2021, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 9 2021, 02:14 PM)
DKSH is an oversold and undervalue fundamental stock worth watching.
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just check out your dksh

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earnings seem alright, divi has been stagnant

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borrowing increased in the latest qtr which i assume they go quite aggressive in expansion

challenging covid time but things are great

logistics wise, understandable, covid time

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same goes with cookies

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prospect = sama with a lot of companies, challenging covid time, relatively stable, and growth in future

chart wise

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I know you said you look to the right side of the chart, future prospect, but may i know your analysis of this company together with your entry? a sentence like that is basically the same as buycall from sifus laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jul 9 2021, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jul 9 2021, 03:50 PM)
haiya, you can always disagree with me  sweat.gif 
i think it boils down the market sentimental. Inari always runs ahead of it's chart and fundamental during the run on the early 2010s too
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yeah i remember that time too the famous sushi inari. things were great that time together with the news from ace to main, it pushed it high and started to really slow down since 2018, things are great again in 2021!
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post Jul 9 2021, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 9 2021, 04:26 PM)
If you understand that fella I was talking about yesterday, you would understand why it is so important to focus on yourself and not me.

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Absolutely. The best teacher is the analysis of our own buying and selling of the past. Get rid of the mistakes, improve on the good ones and be better.
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post Jul 9 2021, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 9 2021, 04:48 PM)
The greatest enemy is ourselves... over trading.

hari hari mau....  doh.gif  ....  shakehead.gif  ..... this of course you cannot
understand the meaning of loving one at one time..... you cannot be like the bloody ham sap old man who has the urge to screw everything wearing a skirt!!!
learn la... have class sikit... pick only the best one....  dun screw this, screw that... left screw, right screw... backhand also screw....  doh.gif
liddis cannot one....
if understand this..... u understand .... u really need to trim down the number of stocks you trade at one go....
One.... trade ONE at one time....
remember.... dun be the ham sap old man....  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
better stop here.... else you beh tahan....  laugh.gif
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Realized this after reading many things and what you said years ago. Hahahhaah. Have been doing one, max two at a time for quite some times already. laugh.gif

Won't beh tahan,

come, more.

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post Jul 10 2021, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 10 2021, 11:23 AM)
Yup. Done and tested so many times during my paper trading days.
You cannot simply, simply trade with head stuck up in own sss....
Whack this stock, whack that stock .... forehand smash, backhand smash, under the legs also you wanna smash....  rclxub.gif
laws of probability is that you will play the losing game...

and just like passive investing, one of stuff that makes most average/lousy is over diversification.
Too many stocks...
and end of day... like the horny old man.....
you ain't gonna get no satisfaction....

trade only when it makes sense to tade...
and do not trade because you feel you need too......
and this is what the other old man really teaches...
wait for the big fat pitch....
the one you ain't gonna miss.......................
trading all those average stocks....
will only get you average returns and if luck ain't on your side....
clearly you gonna lose.
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ya, used to think that diversification is the biblical mantra to guard us against the risk because that's what preached to us, long term + diversification + don't trade + etc sweat.gif

trade and invest do not have much differences like you've mentioned multiple times before this, we have to find the best, strongest stock with the best possible entry after studying the past, sit and wait for the big fish

how about those trade with systems? taking smaller but frequent profits with very specific setups within a range of 1 - 4 stocks, cut loss quick, add into strengths fast, multiply the smaller gains and compiling them into big ones? some by doing this have handsome gains - discipline
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post Jul 11 2021, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jul 11 2021, 11:53 AM)
Diversification still works, but u need to diversify into different asset classes and other markets.
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That I agree. Especially with ETFs and robo-advisory around. Funds, errmmm, need to go look around though.

Here it's all about stocks right laugh.gif
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post Jul 11 2021, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jul 11 2021, 08:56 PM)
Only that u buy ETFs on the stock market.

ETFs allow u easy access to other markets and asset classes.
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we are in the low-interest environment and everyone's looking for every possible way to make use of the ringgits/dolar, which interest affects every region/country differently. what asset classes are you holding to mitigate the risk? commodities, metals, property, crypto?
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post Jul 11 2021, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 11 2021, 03:02 PM)
Aiyoo... me started the fire mah... why you no reply me instead?  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
this one ... is all about stocks mah....
and I am toking about die-worsify in the stock market itself...

Me only play one stock at one time.
Win big or don't play play...

can ah?

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i know you look at the very right setup in a very right market to win big laugh.gif

what if there's some black swan flapping their wings and ngam ngam you're in your big position? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 11 2021, 11:08 PM)
Ingredients for speculation.
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Ya, every fomc meeting is like a ticking time bomb waiting to explode. To be honest it's worrying, a whipsawed market while index keeps breaking new high.
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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jul 12 2021, 09:00 AM)
This current waiting game really losing my patience. the signal of stock coming down is just not there sweat.gif
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some charts are looking good ehh but the sentiment remains tight laugh.gif
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post Jul 12 2021, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jul 12 2021, 09:18 AM)
Yea right. For klse, Many stocks are at the support of rising channel but the current sentimental does not support any chances of rebounding.
And nasdaq is way off at the uncharted territory. When it comes down it will be very ulgy for bursa tech and industrial stocks
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yeah, FAANGs are having great runs. but

and the emergence of healthcare names in the 52w high list concern me a little when i was looking around last week.

breakouts from base are likely to happen this week, together with the defensive theme using healthcare because they were lagging behind since last year

something to think about hmm.gif

QUOTE(greyPJ @ Jul 12 2021, 09:24 AM)
this week may be yes, up a bit but my prediction is disaster coming month end.

mydin cant face Parliament, he has to hide behind darurat.

now start open up despite high covid

EMCO in five KL localities to end ahead of schedule on Sunday (July 11)

01jun 7100
now 9000

new cases will reach record high end of july, then mydin will ask for darurat extension.

if cases over 20k, we will have fake fmco again, klci 1380.
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doh.gif doh.gif let's see what will happen sighh

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 12 2021, 11:48 AM)
Have you ever read up position sizing?
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Yup, rrr. For me I use atr/percentage to do with my stop loss and I want to see profit right away, if I'm wrong, I want it to show quick as well, mostly because I was too early on the trade.

Still trying to get better on averaging up. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jul 12 2021, 04:44 PM)
some of us here were discussing about Bpplastic few months ago

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In this case, no abang adik movement. Tguan, Daibochi, Tomypak, SLP, Advancepackaging all still sleeping. so what gives?
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187m shares, gorenggg

All these tec too lol
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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Jul 13 2021, 09:20 AM)
Is it workable in Bursa? Or better success rate in foreign market?
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achievable. a proper entry + time + good companies can do this.
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post Jul 14 2021, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 13 2021, 11:59 AM)
It's my own target. wink.gif

Why? Because if there is no meat, ie if the trades yields a possible 10% - 20% potential profit, with a safety cut loss of around 6%, I am only betting big money to win small money.
For me, that's meaningless and in the long run, I should probably be the jackass losing all my hard earned money.

But hey that's me....

What works for me, might not work for you or anyone else.

Most important, develop your own strategy.

Yes, you need that game plan....  one that you know you are fighting the market with your strongest skill set.

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Mana spider weeyy, missing few days already

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 14 2021, 12:18 PM)
Need me to hold your hand meh?

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come out chitchat a bit mah tongue.gif

QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jul 14 2021, 12:31 PM)
looking back at my 555 book,

i think frontken showed the signal earlier, i have ignored due to the poor market sentiment due to the crackdown on China tech giant sad.gif

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ya, all techs showing rebound, hence we need to find the strongest one amongst the bunch

local brokerage app's alert is not working well shakehead.gif

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miss the first pivot but a second one can be entered as well albeit the higher risk lahh

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