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post Jul 5 2021, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 5 2021, 10:57 AM)
Want to start fire ah?

Do you know how to use search function ah?

some1 once posted they were balls deep in SCIB on 30th May.
That posting caught my attention mah....
macam sad story but macam not....

but due to the SD/KPMG issue which attracted many postings, I was aware of the SD/SCIB/KPower stock prices then lo...
SCIB was down sharply from 1.40+ to only 1.00

then on the 10th, he was asked about his SCIB...
the answer was ... 'Bro why u always ask about SCIB? I cut my losses at 1.7 already and only hold like 20 lots. I didn't buy much

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macam mana boleh potong at 1.70?
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everyone got their own trade setups la....
go develop your own....
I could suck at what you are good at and vice versa la....
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hahahh i did read through the fiasco laugh.gif

anyway people come and go in the forum and let's hope lyn doesnt become i3/klsescreener laugh.gif

i was just wondering but yeah no worries hahahha

anyway is anyone looking at censof? coming off an ascending base, perhaps this is the turnaround year for them?

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but last march 2020

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ini doing software ke main saham ni?

and with ties like this

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should we believe that companies do turn a new leaf? whistling.gif
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post Jul 5 2021, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 5 2021, 11:42 AM)
Ahh... this is an interesting one but I am afraid, I really dun have much knowledge, perhaps need more time digging the net... wink.gif

What I gathered...

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/cens...-past-hope-dnex

The 'investment' in Dnex was in 2013... and yeah, so when Dnex slumped to single diggits, Censof had no choice but to force sell a chunk of their shares...

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/cens...20margin%20call.

But it still has some 9% of Dnex left... so it should be ok now since Dnex has recovered...

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The turnaround in profits can be seen in the latest Q ....but the money Q is can it be sustainable and how much growth potential is there? (need more reading .... tongue.gif )

chart is OKAY!
good stuff  thumbup.gif
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a few good charts came out when i was doing my screening. need some time to do some digging as well. having ties with the gov is good, in some way but how revolutionary with their software and is that sustainable? laugh.gif but so far upon scanning through some of the figures, all are showing improvement and that's good!


QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jul 5 2021, 11:44 AM)
Alibaba and tencent is down today. Gonna average down some more.

Any china tech bull here ? Big tech trading at 20x valuations is very attractive to me, even though is fully leash by communist party
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kweb was once a bull and now, hit to the ground and i'm not sure how to make sense of the tech sector in china yet. laugh.gif huge growth but the big brother is watching. didi was just having its ipo and I wonder what will happen tonight. icon_question.gif
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post Jul 5 2021, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 5 2021, 12:30 PM)
The 10% placement to buy that company in Spore is helping I guess....

anyway... G...  puke.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Did realise my comments could have been better as I just noticed the NOS of G is so small... only 50m shares...  but still ... if I was trading it, I would have forced myself out around 11.90.

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Nobody would know hahaha. Daily chart is useless for G, even with intraday, breakout around round number is mostly ups and downs and one needs big stomach.

With 50m shares floating around, the story makes everything easy to goreng laugh.gif

Li, xpeng, nio took some hits last Friday. Will this continue? There's long upper shadow so far. tongue.gif
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post Jul 6 2021, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 6 2021, 03:10 PM)
cilaaacar ...... 3.00pm and no new stock to chat meh?
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cilacarrrrr x2, where's your 555 bruce.gif

How about some 'Dynamic, Progressive, Innovative'?

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sales are doing great!

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inventories are receivables are increasing which might seem a bit concerning but that could indicate great sales, ada cash tambah

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no loans

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products doing great, news saying increasing exposure in OBM product as well as OEM stuffs too

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and lastly,

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boleh? if it can't break the line of least rintangan/halangan, another smaller contraction might be forming to shake some people out, ok?

now, mana you punya 555?

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post Jul 7 2021, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 6 2021, 07:12 PM)

You like to fish ikan bilis eh?

find something bigger laaa.... something more than 10 million profit ..... got ah?  laugh.gif
my 555?

haven't even been paper trading .....  doh.gif  doh.gif

super lazy mode.....  rclxub.gif
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ada big fish to intro? biggrin.gif

those which do good during the past qtr earnings

glove, cpo, steel, logistics, chips

charts wise, all macam sudah too late puke.gif

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I like this, earning was thumbup.gif but a bit anti climatic, sekejap saja, entry was right but couldnt sustain because of various reasons hence ikan bilis

ada big ikan? come laugh.gif xdak paper trading but your eyes must be eyeing some big ikan pun right icon_idea.gif

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post Jul 7 2021, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 7 2021, 08:40 AM)
too late to the party for the commodity stocks already....

at that time... there were plenty of logical choices like gloves and then tech...

so at this moment of time, there's no edge for the traders trading such stocks, unless of course, one is a trader who thinks he/she can outsmart the market in such more difficult trades.
For me, I am not.
I believe in trading only when it is easier to win.... big la.
yup, win big or sit in the corner...

so like Hiap Teck, the obvious questions is how long can the good earnings last?
the answer to that question is about half half... fifty fifty .... fifty percent chance to get wrong.... so for me... it is difficult....
so better squat in the corner lo  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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exactly, this very challenging environment is not good at all for getting efficient trades, there's another one

chart wise it wasn't that great, but will there be a breakout? cool2.gif


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but the overall sentiment with logistics wasn't as crazy as what happened in taiwan laugh.gif

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i always wonder how many kena from these research papers aka buy call laugh.gif

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post Jul 7 2021, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 7 2021, 09:08 AM)
I always like Tasco as a company... but somehow... never bought their stock b4....  wink.gif
yes, environment is very challenging... remember when you know how not to lose money, you will learn from it, when to and when not to trade.

take trading breakouts... there will be 'seasons' when that strategy will work like clockwork all the time... you can glance at a stock and you can call where and when... and bingo, you are right on the money, every single time.... but then.... when the market turns... hoho... you would feel that you are the dumbest person in the market and that very same strategy that you had garnered so much success with, will suck big time... and the point is, you need to realise that it's not you nor your breakout skill that sucks, it's just that the market wasn't conducive for such strategy.... yup, it's complicated... it's like sometimes can but sometimes cannot... LOL!
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ya rclxms.gif when there's no sure way to win, sit on cash and let it rot in fd hell laugh.gif

QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 7 2021, 09:38 AM)
COMFORT to shine soon.
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how to shine? cry.gif

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post Jul 7 2021, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 7 2021, 09:59 AM)
the difference is you read the chart to the left, i read it to the right.
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quite possible but when there are too many trapped souls from the left, dont you think that it's difficult to go to the right like what you wish for? laugh.gif

QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 7 2021, 10:00 AM)
A good portion of tasco top line is from recent acquisition. In general, 3pl, transport, etc business is correlated to aggregate economy.

Many seems to forget this counter was pumped for Pfizer vaccine delivery service.
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yupp, even during that time, uchi was hyped for the fridge as well brows.gif

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post Jul 7 2021, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 7 2021, 10:06 AM)
that is a question a chartist vs fundamentalist question, hybrid trader do not depend on one tool, but if you only have a hammer, every screws look like a nail.

i use the same method choosing COMFORT the way i pick PRLEXUS.
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ya i understand your logic, i was scratching my head for many years about this as well and it's always us vs the market and specifically you vs the market, i vs the market. to each his own nod.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 7 2021, 10:07 AM)
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I tell you, knowing how not to lose is so important...

what would you prefer?
Take a good bet but then lose? 
or take a lousy bet and lose?

hehe... I would prefer neither... but making lousy bets is definitely something I would not want.
But yea.... in the markets macam macam...

many still insist on seeing what they want to see....
when comes to financial numbers...
they don't want to see forward numbers....

but when it comes to chart...
they want to see the future only?

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if can see only the future...
throw everything away lo...
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there's only one goal in the market and take the easiest way is always the most efficient way to win laugh.gif

i've shared ikan bilis, mana 555 alert brows.gif
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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jul 7 2021, 11:09 AM)
if you enter back then, where is your TP?
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around that arrow, 510 iinm, but i did a mistake by avg up during its way up and affected my avg price, sold it during its way down and ended up ikan bilis only
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post Jul 7 2021, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Jul 7 2021, 10:59 AM)
The thing about stock market....

Everyone can be guru...we can simply give buy/sell call for any counters...

If kena = I'm Pro / told you so / you should follow my call
If tak kena = Be patient / market not good / i'm holding for long term / i'm investing

Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day

And, bascially one cant be wrong...

Lets say A give buy call : 

1.Maybank RM 7.50 on Jan 2020
2. When price drop below RM7.00 , A went missing
3. Today price RM 8.10 A come out and says, see told you so.

How can A be wrong ?  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 7 2021, 11:08 AM)
Aiyoh.. my friend... this A is market timing his/her appearances maa....
A will only show up when correct....
those who look for guru is only looking for hole for guru to dig for them.  smile.gif
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hence we see multiple gurus/gurus-wanna-be appearing and disappearing laugh.gif
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post Jul 7 2021, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jul 7 2021, 11:25 AM)
do understand your entry, what where is your exit point ya?
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around 635 after the two consecutive red candles, avg up too fast hence eating my profit.

so lesson learnt, SIT and don't do anything and wait before taking any kind of actions doh.gif
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post Jul 7 2021, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Jul 7 2021, 11:32 AM)
i'm looking for more tipsy  icon_question.gif
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now we have to just ask him to take out his 555 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jul 7 2021, 11:51 AM)
but the volume is quite low on the 2 red candle, it might be a fake signal (but turned out true)
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I think I got lucky as well before the price of steel took a hit. Saw an inverted hammer the day before, the next day red lagi so terus cut to protect my ikan bilis sad.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 7 2021, 01:14 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  me too!  blush.gif
Billy is getting pretty good  thumbup.gif
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I want tipsy boss. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 7 2021, 01:16 PM)
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btw... them screeners.... don't get too cozy on them....

the negative is... your trade is based on what it churns out.... see? get the point?

it does help... but ... there's also risks  :thumbsup:
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Ya, the screener just gives me a list and I used minimal filters. Doing manually still :haha:

And reminiscence needs tons of reading, with his how to trade in stocks, only then I got his full picture. Still trying to be better ehhh.

Btw, sitting out comfortably and eyeing good chance to win big (peeping your 555) are the utmost importance of all. tongue.gif
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post Jul 7 2021, 09:13 PM

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Some do prefer the dividend way but don’t deny the existence of other ways to achieve efficiency.

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And boon had been giving lots of examples as case study. Think about it. laugh.gif

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post Jul 7 2021, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 7 2021, 09:54 PM)
Bloody hell... 100 year book and you go do screenshot tongue.gif
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Classics are meant to be kept digitally to preserve. tongue.gif Want me to frame all your analysis too? Many good hidden lessons too. laugh.gif

There's a certain way to go around with the local environment of investing/trading. Like only this and that are the holy way of investing/trading.

It's always that particular person versus the market and understanding oneself is extremely important. Keep revising and becoming better, hopefully I can too.

So guys, please don't stop sharing weeyyyy. I got one 555 from you already. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 8 2021, 09:01 AM)
and what about Percy Thomas then?  tongue.gif
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wait whattttt laugh.gif

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I wonder whether you and I are talking about the same thomas.

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so which one? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 8 2021, 09:29 AM)
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Percy from that book
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ahahahhahaha i'm reading william oneil noww, thomas the train guy in the stock operatorr was a long time ago ehhhhh laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif i'll go and reread it again. i think this is my third time, memory not good laaa old mann

**ahhh the cotton guy, looking at your 555 thinking that that's my 555 and have so much conviction on my 555 is my 555 but it's actually yours laugh.gif

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post Jul 8 2021, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 8 2021, 12:10 PM)
Warren Buffett is telling investors don’t time the market. Often, he says, market predictions distract people from making good stock purchases.

Warren Buffett: Don’t Time the Market
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/savingandin...ket/ar-BB18FQxt
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Sometimes things are taken out of the full context. His stand is to identify the best company which has growth forever. Hence, the need to filter out and select the best possible companies. So, are there companies which can be compared to those mega conglomerates in, let say, the US?

We do see some good companies around with good growth and what's the future prospect of such companies? In such difficult time, while others are recovering and we go back to square one. Yeah, I mean, things are not that bad, but not that good too to say, hold stocks forever with the assumption that they will grow, forever?

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