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statikinetic
post Aug 26 2022, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 26 2022, 11:00 AM)
Yes, the reasons for AmBank was a known issue.. smile.gif

but there it was.... trading in the stock market... Ambank and Maybank... both there for the taking...

and this was exactly how much AmBank outperformed Maybank.

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Is this as high as it goes?
LOL! I wouldn't know for 3 sen worth cause I wouldn't know how to bet on banking stocks...
the one and only one thing I know about Maybank is...'Where's the meat?' whistling.gif

Those 3 words still holding true for so many, many moons already..................
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I think when it comes to Maybank, there is always that premium when it comes to the name that retailers love.
Great to sit and suck on dividends. But in terms of capital appreciation meat, there are almost always better dishes elsewhere.

Don't have any banking stocks in my portfolio right now so I get to play casual bystander here.

Locally, a few equities I have looking high but am deciding against realizing the profit because nowhere to reallocate the funds to.
My China bet has turned out to be quite painful but that's part of the journey.

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post Aug 26 2022, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 26 2022, 02:40 PM)
I think when it comes to Maybank, there is always that premium when it comes to the name that retailers love.
Great to sit and suck on dividends. But in terms of capital appreciation meat, there are almost always better dishes elsewhere.

Don't have any banking stocks in my portfolio right now so I get to play casual bystander here.

Locally, a few equities I have looking high but am deciding against realizing the profit because nowhere to reallocate the funds to.
My China bet has turned out to be quite painful but that's part of the journey.
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The problem imo is that Maybank is not doing enough to grow its profits (or perhaps it is just too big to really grow)

I am a strong believer that growth is an very important part of value. If the company is not growing its profit, for me, that's a plain old eat pau sell pau type of company. No growth. What's the point then? Pointless yes? Well, it is for me.

And look at Maybank.. its profits... it's rather stagnant at around 8 billion or less. Each year. Which is why the share price... it's around 8 or 9.
Pay 8, you should be doing okay.
Pay 9, better give the boys and gals at EPF your money.

And the question is okay just enough?

Sometimes, many just gets suck into the so called attractiveness of the big name. But what's the point? Cause I easily pick out the other banking stock, Ambank, which would generated so much more money. Real money. Meat.


and yea... not saying go buy AmBank now but just pointing our the flaws of following the popular opinion.

Big and popular does not guarantee one success.




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post Aug 26 2022, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Aug 26 2022, 03:02 PM)
The problem imo is that Maybank is not doing enough to grow its profits (or perhaps it is just too big to really grow)

I am a strong believer that growth is an very important part of value. If the company is not growing its profit, for me, that's a plain old eat pau sell pau type of company. No growth. What's the point then? Pointless yes? Well, it is for me.

And look at Maybank.. its profits... it's rather stagnant at around 8 billion or less. Each year. Which is why the share price... it's around 8 or 9.
Pay 8, you should be doing okay.
Pay 9, better give the boys and gals at EPF your money.

And the question is okay just enough?

Sometimes, many just gets suck into the so called attractiveness of the big name. But what's the point? Cause I easily pick out the other banking stock, Ambank, which would generated so much more money. Real money. Meat.
and yea... not saying go buy AmBank now but just pointing our the flaws of following the popular opinion.

Big and popular does not guarantee one success.
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My opinion is that Maybank doesn't have any headroom in the markets it is in to grow. Look at the Malaysian market.
It is saturated, not much headroom to grow into. Unless the economic pie grows, then you look at Malaysia at a whole and see if the economy is going to boom anytime soon to allow for that headroom. I think 10 - 15 years ago other banks like Public expanded overseas primarily into the Indochina markets and that revenue augmented their growth. See their revenue breakdown by geo location.

The other thing is risk appetite. Retailers are usually from two extremes. One the chronic gamblers who went into stocks like Serba. The other is the ultra safe types who want to get into equities but don't want to venture into the unfamiliar. This is why they stick to big name stocks like Maybank....and our famous Tenaga example.

Seeing the Ambank price months ago, understanding the circumstances of it's laggard recovery compared to the rest of the market and then understanding the 1MDB factors is beyond a large portion of the population. So if anyone caught this boat, they are quite nicely rewarded. I can't claim to be anywhere near smart enough. I totally missed it until you posted.

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post Aug 26 2022, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 26 2022, 07:25 PM)
Seeing the Ambank price months ago, understanding the circumstances of it's laggard recovery compared to the rest of the market and then understanding the 1MDB factors is beyond a large portion of the population. So if anyone caught this boat, they are quite nicely rewarded. I can't claim to be anywhere near smart enough. I totally missed it until you posted.
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Could mean ANZ divestment is progressing.

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post Aug 27 2022, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 26 2022, 10:23 PM)
Could mean ANZ divestment is progressing.
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Learnt something new. Probably shows how far off Ambank is on my radar.
Yes, it could quite possible. I'm not sure how large the starting point was but a quick google search indicated that it was around 22% today? That's still a huge stake.
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post Aug 29 2022, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(Aryton Wu @ Aug 27 2022, 04:12 PM)
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Supermax's strong Q4 not sustainable, FY23/24 EPS cut by 21pct by Affin Hwang

KUALA LUMPUR: Supermax Corp Bhd's strong performance for the fourth quarter (Q4) ended June 30, 2022 is not sustainable, according to Affin Hwang Capital.
The research house said this was given that the bulk of the improvement was due to foreign exchange gains of RM39 million, which were significantly higher than the RM25 million achieved in the nine months of financial year 2022 (9MFY22).
The firm said the gains were likely due to Supermax management taking a view on currency movements, and could have been losses if the movement had been unfavourable.
"The decline in revenue is a better indicator of the weak demand and overcapacity faced by the sector.
"Most of the existing glove manufacturers in Malaysia have reported a decline in profit quarter on quarter (qoq)," it said.
Overall, Affin Hwang said Supermax's financial year 2022 (FY22) results came within expectations.
Supermax recorded a net profit of RM732.4 million in FY22, making up 103 per cent and 97 per cent of Affin Hwang and the consensus' full-year estimates.
"We lowered our 2023-24 earnings per share forecasts by 21 per cent to factor in our latest margin and capacity assumptions.
"We have also cut our target price to 70 sen from 75 sen and downgrade our call to Sell from Hold for Supermax.
"The key upside risks include unexpected foreign exchange gains and exit of unprofitable glove manufacturers in the near term," it added.
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sometimes i also wonder, how the genius IBs write their report. sometimes tp10, sometimes tp 50 sen mega_shok.gif

how much cash in hand supermax has in their bank in terms of per share value? what is their target price again? lol

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post Aug 29 2022, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(square2 @ Aug 29 2022, 09:19 AM)
sometimes i also wonder, how the genius IBs write their report. sometimes tp10, sometimes tp 50 sen mega_shok.gif

how much cash in hand supermax has in their bank in terms of per share value? what is their target price again? lol

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ib analysis is based on data available, different analyst may has different data, interpret differently and assign different weight to various data. besides, data change over time. hence, may end with different tp.

at least ib tp is more realistic than retailers sentimental value.

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post Aug 29 2022, 01:32 PM

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Malaysia’s Core Inflation at Highest in 6 Years on Food Gain

By Kevin Varley

(Bloomberg)-- Malaysia’s core inflation reading climbed to the highest level since March 2016, primarily driven by a record increase in the cost of food, adding pressures to the government to do more to fight price gains.

The core inflation gauge rose 3.4% from a year earlier in July, the Department of Statistics said in an emailed statement. Headline inflation increased to 4.4%, matching the median estimate in a Bloomberg survey.

The cost of meat rose 12%, driving food prices up by 6.9%, the highest reading since Bloomberg started tracking the data in 2011. Transport and accommodation prices also recorded an increase of more than 5%.

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Aug 29 2022, 01:32 PM)
Malaysia’s Core Inflation at Highest in 6 Years on Food Gain

By Kevin Varley

(Bloomberg)-- Malaysia’s core inflation reading climbed to the highest level since March 2016, primarily driven by a record increase in the cost of food, adding pressures to the government to do more to fight price gains.

The core inflation gauge rose 3.4% from a year earlier in July, the Department of Statistics said in an emailed statement. Headline inflation increased to 4.4%, matching the median estimate in a Bloomberg survey.

The cost of meat rose 12%, driving food prices up by 6.9%, the highest reading since Bloomberg started tracking the data in 2011. Transport and accommodation prices also recorded an increase of more than 5%.

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With depreciating rm, expect inflation rate to persists.

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post Aug 30 2022, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 29 2022, 03:10 PM)
With depreciating rm, expect inflation rate to persists.
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no worries

export based counter will have a higher margin due to the forex gain. this will cushion the inflation pressure for the shareholders


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post Sep 1 2022, 10:50 PM

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Saw this today, sounded interesting.


Standard Chartered Malaysia has launched SmartStocks, a one-stop online share trading platform, bringing clients the convenience of trading on 12 exchanges across seven global markets from Malaysia via one account.

In a statement, the bank said through SmartStocks, clients will be able to access Bursa Malaysia, Singapore Exchange, the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, the New York Stock Exchange, NASDAQ, US OTC, BATS Global Markets, the Australian Stock Exchange, the Tokyo Stock Exchange and the SIX Swiss Exchange – all at a single brokerage rate, which can be as low as zero percent for the its Priority Private clients.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...stocks#cxrecs_s

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post Sep 1 2022, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 1 2022, 10:50 PM)
Thanks for sharing, will look into this. thumbup.gif
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post Sep 2 2022, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 1 2022, 10:50 PM)
Saw this today, sounded interesting.
Standard Chartered Malaysia has launched SmartStocks, a one-stop online share trading platform, bringing clients the convenience of trading on 12 exchanges across seven global markets from Malaysia via one account.

In a statement, the bank said through SmartStocks, clients will be able to access Bursa Malaysia, Singapore Exchange, the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, the New York Stock Exchange, NASDAQ, US OTC, BATS Global Markets, the Australian Stock Exchange, the Tokyo Stock Exchange and the SIX Swiss Exchange – all at a single brokerage rate, which can be as low as zero percent for the its Priority Private clients.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...stocks#cxrecs_s
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ahh priority private clients ar..OTC also can buy and sell tht is interesting
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post Sep 2 2022, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 1 2022, 10:50 PM)
Saw this today, sounded interesting.
Standard Chartered Malaysia has launched SmartStocks, a one-stop online share trading platform, bringing clients the convenience of trading on 12 exchanges across seven global markets from Malaysia via one account.

In a statement, the bank said through SmartStocks, clients will be able to access Bursa Malaysia, Singapore Exchange, the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, the New York Stock Exchange, NASDAQ, US OTC, BATS Global Markets, the Australian Stock Exchange, the Tokyo Stock Exchange and the SIX Swiss Exchange – all at a single brokerage rate, which can be as low as zero percent for the its Priority Private clients.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...stocks#cxrecs_s
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0.1% brokerage fee with no minimum fee for normal customers.

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post Sep 2 2022, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 1 2022, 10:50 PM)
Saw this today, sounded interesting.
Standard Chartered Malaysia has launched SmartStocks, a one-stop online share trading platform, bringing clients the convenience of trading on 12 exchanges across seven global markets from Malaysia via one account.

In a statement, the bank said through SmartStocks, clients will be able to access Bursa Malaysia, Singapore Exchange, the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, the New York Stock Exchange, NASDAQ, US OTC, BATS Global Markets, the Australian Stock Exchange, the Tokyo Stock Exchange and the SIX Swiss Exchange – all at a single brokerage rate, which can be as low as zero percent for the its Priority Private clients.

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...stocks#cxrecs_s
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Hmm, no London Stock Exchange. Wonder how is the conversion rate.

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post Sep 2 2022, 11:43 AM

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Rakuten Trade minimum fee is $1.88, so this stanchart could be worth it if your stocks are below $1,880 (of cos IBKR still the best)
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 26 2022, 02:40 PM)
I think when it comes to Maybank, there is always that premium when it comes to the name that retailers love.
Great to sit and suck on dividends. But in terms of capital appreciation meat, there are almost always better dishes elsewhere.

Don't have any banking stocks in my portfolio right now so I get to play casual bystander here.

Locally, a few equities I have looking high but am deciding against realizing the profit because nowhere to reallocate the funds to.
My China bet has turned out to be quite painful but that's part of the journey.
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when is maybank ex-date for div?

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post Sep 2 2022, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Sep 2 2022, 01:24 PM)
when is maybank ex-date for div?
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The Board of Directors have declared a single-tier first interim dividend in respect of the financial year ending 31
December 2022 of 28.0 sen (30 June 2021: 28.0 sen) per ordinary share.

The Board of Directors have also determined that the Dividend Reinvestment Plan will apply to the single-tier first interim
dividend in which an electable portion of 7.0 sen per ordinary share can be elected to be reinvested in new ordinary shares
and the remaining portion of 21.0 sen per ordinary share will be paid in cash.

Pursuant to Section 8.26 of the Main Market Listing Requirements of Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad, the interim
dividend will be paid no later than three (3) months from the date of declaration.

The Book Closure Date will be announced by the Bank at a later date.
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post Sep 4 2022, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Sep 2 2022, 11:43 AM)
Rakuten Trade minimum fee is $1.88, so this stanchart could be worth it if your stocks are below $1,880 (of cos IBKR still the best)
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rakuten brokerage very attractive but on FX side...
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post Sep 4 2022, 12:36 PM

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they recently announced USD account. so you only convert once to USD and can trade however you want. (don't forget the rakuten 0.1% commission of each trade vs IBKR tiered pricing of min U$0.35 or U$0.0035 per share)

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