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rotloi
post Jun 16 2022, 09:42 AM

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Yinson and dayang worth buy ?? 85 percent recommended lol
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post Jun 16 2022, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(BrightDays @ Jun 9 2022, 03:20 PM)
Tenaga and Maybank looks delicious right now? Any insights regarding these stocks? Looking for a counter that give better dividend (I dont really look at the CG). AFAIK they are quite similar in terms of their DY. Any opinions ?
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Yes, it's the assumption that for a stock like Tenaga, which had a monopolistic business, should be a good stock.

An assumption.

But how true is this assumption?

How about a quick look see at the stock's 5 year performance?

Reasoning is... if the stock performance for the last 5 year had been shit, that logically tells that the assumption that a stock with monopolistic business, makes good investment is flawed. Something is wrong here with that assumption.

well here it is...

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Using Yahoo finance, that's the quick snapshot of how Tenaga has fared the past 5 years...
One can clearly see that Tenaga had been a horrible stock for it's investors.
It was trading as high as rm16++ in 2018. It's now only 8.42!!!

Yup, if Tenaga is so good and what not... why is the stock in a strong downtrend the past 5 years? (this needs to be answered!)

And clearly, using simple logic, investing a stock solely for its dividends is NOT RISK FREE!!
Tenaga showed it very clearly. You can get the so called 'good' dividends (DY) but yet, you 'could' still lose money....




ps... this stock had been discussed many a times before. Searchable.

statikinetic
post Jun 16 2022, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(BrightDays @ Jun 12 2022, 11:17 PM)
Yes, both Maybank and Tenaga have strong fundamentals and Div imo
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Please qualify how Tenaga has strong fundamentals.

Edited : Wow, Boon beat me to it.

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post Jun 16 2022, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 16 2022, 01:57 PM)
Please qualify how Tenaga has strong fundamentals.

Edited : Wow, Boon beat me to it.
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Are you sitting behind me somewhere? everywhere? laugh.gif
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post Jun 16 2022, 02:09 PM

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The best stock in a struggling industry is nothing but a stock in a struggling industry.

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yup... who cares if it's the most efficient, best margins, best management and what not.... end of the day, that one hand cannot cover the whole sky....

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post Jun 16 2022, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 16 2022, 02:04 PM)
Are you sitting behind me somewhere? everywhere?  laugh.gif
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I was deader than the market the past couple of weeks. Dengue. sweat.gif

Will be going back to stalking you in the coming days mwahaha.
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post Jun 16 2022, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 16 2022, 02:13 PM)
I was deader than the market the past couple of weeks. Dengue.  sweat.gif

Will be going back to stalking you in the coming days mwahaha.
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A moment of silence for that one brave mosquito who had sacrificed it all................................................................







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post Jun 16 2022, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 16 2022, 02:14 PM)
A moment of silence for that one brave mosquito who had sacrificed it all................................................................
A-mun
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At the worst, I was prepared to all-in my investments to whatever pharma company that finds a dengue vaccine. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 16 2022, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Jun 12 2022, 10:55 PM)
Boon3 when do you think the bear market will end? When USA & Malaysia stops rising interest rates?
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Interest rates has always been gravity to equities.
Looks like more hikes may be on the horizon due to pent up pressure.
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post Jun 16 2022, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 16 2022, 02:16 PM)
At the worst, I was prepared to all-in my investments to whatever pharma company that finds a dengue vaccine. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 16 2022, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jun 16 2022, 02:19 PM)
Interest rates has always been gravity to equities.
Looks like more hikes may be on the horizon due to pent up pressure.
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“Far more money has been lost by investors trying to anticipate corrections, than lost in the corrections themselves.” Peter Lynch.

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post Jun 16 2022, 04:52 PM

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omg. harta. epf was holding 5% in nov 2020, but now having 7.5% currently

at peak they were holding 8.xx%

meaning EPF is also a big loser (provided they do not short harta)
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post Jun 16 2022, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Jun 16 2022, 03:09 PM)
“Far more money has been lost by investors trying to anticipate corrections, than lost in the corrections themselves.” Peter Lynch.

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A 'self soothing' quote from one who lost at corrections. E.g those didn't buy glove stock didn't make but those bought loss.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 17 2022, 07:46 AM
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post Jun 17 2022, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Jun 16 2022, 03:09 PM)
“Far more money has been lost by investors trying to anticipate corrections, than lost in the corrections themselves.” Peter Lynch.

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Just as much are lost by investors who refuses to admit that they are wrong.

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post Jun 17 2022, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 17 2022, 09:10 AM)
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Just as much are lost by investors who refuses to admit that they are wrong.

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post Jun 17 2022, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 17 2022, 10:22 AM)
"Unrealized loss is not loss"
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boss, what's your rationale for grab?

dont ignore me ehhh cry.gif

still holding? or cut lost because unrealized loss is loss and admitting one's mistake?
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post Jun 17 2022, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Jun 17 2022, 11:32 AM)
boss, what's your rationale for grab?

dont ignore me ehhh  cry.gif

still holding? or cut lost because unrealized loss is loss and admitting one's mistake?
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live to fight another day.

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post Jun 17 2022, 12:19 PM

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when fear and blood is in the water.. its time to buy
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QUOTE(LoTek @ Jun 17 2022, 12:19 PM)
when fear and blood is in the water.. its time to buy
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Buy when blood is knee deep on the floor.

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post Jun 17 2022, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(LoTek @ Jun 17 2022, 12:19 PM)
when fear and blood is in the water.. its time to buy
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Not there yet IMHO. People still shouting buy at the dip biggrin.gif

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