QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Mar 14 2021, 02:03 PM)
If you think 3.5 is the price then everything buy higher than that just make no sense. To me top glove fair price is around Rm3 ish.
Fundamental investing is not buying at riduculous price like rm8 and say you hold long term = fundamental. If the company earning power continue to slide, the fundamental will keep on getting worse and you need to readjust your buy in price.
It is buying a good company or a good business when market price drop below their intrinsic value. Now topglove is just overprice like poh kong when gold price goes up etc.
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Up to you what is your fair price is. Not gonna debate on price VS value.
I just don't want to see people here buy based on fundamental, but mentality and funds allocation not ready to buy based on fundamental. After that, get frighten away by washing machine and lose money. That's why I warn them first.
QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 14 2021, 06:18 PM)
r u scaring the bilis or what?!
IB rss shorts now 2.78%... i dun see how it/they can drive it to 3.50 if max is 4%.
if it does go to 3.50, there can only be one reason - EPF decides to dump their 6+% stake.
well, we are not the one who is controlling the price. I am just stating the obvious worst case scenario, 3.5.
what we can do is strategies accordingly to create a plan.
so far what we have anticipated since December is correct - price rebound at 4.5 range. Lets see whether it can hit 6 and after hit 6 what happen. If it go down, it will reach 3.5.
just play accordingly and we will get rewarded.
the way I see EPF operation, looks like their fund managers know what to do as well.
the difference between them and us, they have unlimited bullets to keep averaging down. For us, if we do it correctly, with the same amount of money initially allocated for the investment, we will get more share quantity at the end before it rebound. We don't have unlimited bullets, so we have to do more operation than the EPF fund managers.
just a side story that is similar. My friend chit chat with me last two weeks. He say he want to buy Tesla. I ask him how much he plan to dump in. He say no worries about price drop, very confident with the company. Got XXX amount of money to dump in.
that point of time the price is around $800. So I told him, starting from $600, close eye buy all the way down until $200. What we should worry is the price doesn't drop to $200. The more it drop, the happier we are.
Today we chit chat again, he complaint to me he never top up any below $600. He got the plan (was taught), he got the money, but he doesn't have the mentality to do investing. He was afraid when he see the price drop. Cannot sleep at night.
I told him just now, "you will have a second chance soon". Let's see what he does when the chance come.