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icemanfx
post Dec 30 2020, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Dec 30 2020, 10:26 AM)
But if next year, once short selling is permitted, does he have enough cash to defend? If everyone shorts, he confirm die
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That will depends on his relationship with other players. in the mean time, savvy traders can range play until defender's cash run out.

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post Dec 30 2020, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Dec 30 2020, 10:28 AM)
icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif Malaysia also got pirate hijack rubber gloves? laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Believe this was how they raised value of flower horn fish.

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post Dec 30 2020, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 30 2020, 12:03 AM)
Indicate some big players are trying to prevent price drop below 6.0 i.e triggering margin forced selling. the same big players will likely to push price higher at opening tomorrow.
When the market is frenzy, overpriced is common; it is not a surprise to drop from peak to a more realistic valuation.
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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Dec 30 2020, 10:00 AM)
Wow auntie is right, big players will not let it drop below 6.

The question is will big players use this rebound chance to cash out?
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 30 2020, 10:06 AM)
More likely to avoid margin forced selling.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 30 2020, 10:07 AM)
We saw that at 4.30pm where there was a support queue of 60k lots formed at RM 6.
TG now seeing selling pressure after rebound.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 30 2020, 10:17 AM)
Err, my guess right now might be the CBP news.
There doesn't seem to be any other leads apart from that.

Or maybe someone been buying so much shares they wanna take it private.
Glove shares going downward now.
TG retreated from the 6.23 at opening to 6.10.
SPMX also dropped to 6.14 now after the early rally.

Smells like something is coming.
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Icy got it right but not yet to congratulate as the steam ran out.

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post Dec 30 2020, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(skty @ Dec 30 2020, 09:29 AM)
short selling
I was expecting CBP news on January as it normally close in 6 months.

hopefully nothing special so the price can continue to drop.
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doesn't look like it.

think it is just an hr halt to advise... LWC et al acquired some shares yesterday.

well, still a small needed break! laugh.gif
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post Dec 30 2020, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 30 2020, 10:31 AM)
That will depends on his relationship with other players. in the mean time, savvy traders can range play until defender's cash run out.
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I no balls la, haha I want u guys make money and congratulate u guys from sidelines. rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 30 2020, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Dec 30 2020, 10:26 AM)
But if next year, once short selling is permitted, does he have enough cash to defend? If everyone shorts, he confirm die
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 30 2020, 10:31 AM)
That will depends on his relationship with other players. in the mean time, savvy traders can range play until defender's cash run out.
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So traders rule the market?
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post Dec 30 2020, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 30 2020, 09:54 AM)
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Nice!!

You know, the foreign workers issue, for Top Glove, this is not something new. Many years, I believe after Sars, the company was fined over 10 million ringgit for immigration offenses. And recently the virus hit its workers. And all the boss cares is buying shares of Top Glove.

That purchase transaction yesterday... very interesting. If material changing news, would the boss purchase of shares be deemed as insider trading?

Secondly ... again no buyback as suspected. TG does have that 2.6 billion invested in dunno what money market fund. Apparently, for whatever reason, it doesn't appear the boss wants to liquidate that position and buyback the company shares.....
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Don't only single out TG la... I believe many were hiring illegals back then. Just that TG numbers are way higher only. Kasi chance la...

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post Dec 30 2020, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 30 2020, 10:38 AM)
doesn't look like it.

think it is just an hr halt to advise... LWC et al acquired some shares yesterday.

well, still a small needed break! laugh.gif
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Feel like the SS info on bursa website has not been there on time for the past few days.
Are they purposely delay the announcement? Hahahah
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post Dec 30 2020, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Dec 30 2020, 10:20 AM)
Anyway for big index fund like TG, bursa will do their best to ensure no panic and orderly trading.

So those hu ha about IB etc are fairy tale at best. Most institutional such as insurance fund, mutual fund, epf will still have them in our portfolio, so IB basically is on the same side with the retailer not against the retailer.

They try to reset the narrative for tg, but i dont think it will work. We shall see
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CWs expire tomorrow

Need to blame CWs if price fall
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post Dec 30 2020, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 30 2020, 10:17 AM)
Err, my guess right now might be the CBP news.
There doesn't seem to be any other leads apart from that.

Or maybe someone been buying so much shares they wanna take it private.
Glove shares going downward now.
TG retreated from the 6.23 at opening to 6.10.
SPMX also dropped to 6.14 now after the early rally.

Smells like something is coming.
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Announcement was made to announce that the boss bought some shares? laugh.gif


Too big right now to take private ... it's still a 50 billion stock.... who got so much money?
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post Dec 30 2020, 11:01 AM

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wah tguan...dont lao sai eh
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post Dec 30 2020, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 30 2020, 10:58 AM)
Announcement was made to announce that the boss bought some shares? laugh.gif
Too big right now to take private ... it's still a 50 billion stock....  who got so much money?
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Just joking on the private ownership, a little reference to how much he has been buying.
Another rumour had it that the announcement is a self declared circuit breaker to see how the other glove counters were doing before market forces kicked in.

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post Dec 30 2020, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 30 2020, 10:46 AM)
Don't only single out TG la... I believe many were hiring illegals back then. Just that TG numbers are way higher only. Kasi chance la...
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It's the market leader. If the company at the top doesn't lead... then how?

In 2006: http://www.mtuc.org.my/expired-permits-top...e-fined-rm114m/

And the issue with their workers is not new, isn't it? 2 years ago, it was highlighted but what did the company really do? Basically nothing... until the CBP ban.

Then shit hit the fan with the virus hitting its workers ....

And what was the boss doing at this time? Buyback la. Tropicana buy shares la. Ownself buy la.

Well... ?
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post Dec 30 2020, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 30 2020, 10:58 AM)
Announcement was made to announce that the boss bought some shares? laugh.gif
Too big right now to take private ... it's still a 50 billion stock....  who got so much money?
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Implying he was defending the 6.0 line. with over $1.2bn war chest, he could keep above 6.0 for sometime or redeem them.

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Dec 30 2020, 10:52 AM)
CWs expire tomorrow

Need to blame CWs if price fall
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So how many CW is in the money?

How many is not?


Lastly .... next year .... what if new CWs are issued?
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post Dec 30 2020, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 30 2020, 11:04 AM)
Just joking on the private ownership, a little reference to how much he has been buying.
Another rumour had it that the announcement is a self declared circuit breaker to see how the other glove counters were doing before market forces kicked in.
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laugh.gif yeah .... probably trying real hard to inject some good news ....
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post Dec 30 2020, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Dec 30 2020, 10:52 AM)
CWs expire tomorrow

Need to blame CWs if price fall
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Haha not sure trolling or what, anyway this is not kopitiam ya. What you say maybe some will really use it to make a decision.

CW take 5 trading day vwap, so not really much effect la. Also nobody will go through the trouble to do that for SW.

You think IB go play main share price to save their SW meh. They got so many SW position out there, this is just one of many.


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post Dec 30 2020, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Dec 30 2020, 11:01 AM)
wah tguan...dont lao sai eh
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Downtrending, dont fight ma, next support RM2, FA good entry price 1.7

QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 30 2020, 11:06 AM)
Implying he was defending the 6.0 line. with over $1.2bn war chest, he could keep above 6.0 for sometime or redeem them.
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He already spent so much of company money for BB and it is still dropping, this 1.2bn war chest tak le pakai lo.
If one day, he has given up hope, and decide to remove this artificial support, then mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 30 2020, 11:06 AM)
Implying he was defending the 6.0 line. with over $1.2bn war chest, he could keep above 6.0 for sometime or redeem them.
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Sometime i wonder are you an old RM working for financial institution.

Why so free de ah, and all those long ass friday lunch. Must be good if got key stable account.
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post Dec 30 2020, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Dec 30 2020, 11:13 AM)
Downtrending, dont fight ma, next support RM2, FA good entry price 1.7
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If it hits 1.7 I will enter with you. thumbup.gif


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