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post Sep 13 2021, 01:33 PM

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The Board of Directors of Daibochi Berhad ("Daibochi") ("Board") wishes to announce that the Board has on 13 September 2021 received a notice of unconditional voluntary take-over offer ("Notice") from UOB Kay Hian Securities (M) Sdn Bhd, on behalf of the Offeror, to acquire the following:-

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post Sep 13 2021, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Sep 13 2021, 01:50 PM)
Is this good or bad news? Can explain in layman term what does this announcement means? What I understand is Scientex will take over Daibochi.
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Good news or bad news depends at what price invested in daibochi. For me it's rather a bad news because as what ah boon said, scientex is not a pure packaging counter. It's property division will be a burden to them in near future.

I'm really looking forward to the prospect of daibochi because they have big client name esp nestle for their orders. Too bad...
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post Sep 13 2021, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Sep 13 2021, 03:10 PM)
Acquisition premium of 12% for main shares of daibochi based on closing, those bought higher for future prospect might not be too happy. I don’t think this is a hostile takeover, so most probably done deal.

Daibochi is consider higher up in the plastic packaging value chain as compared to stretch film. I also dont know why market dont value it more. Because of this scientex full acquisition of it make sense to me.
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I was buying for the future prospect. Sigh... What a disadvantage to minority share holders
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post Sep 13 2021, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Sep 13 2021, 03:10 PM)
Acquisition premium of 12% for main shares of daibochi based on closing, those bought higher for future prospect might not be too happy. I don’t think this is a hostile takeover, so most probably done deal.

Daibochi is consider higher up in the plastic packaging value chain as compared to stretch film. I also dont know why market dont value it more. Because of this scientex full acquisition of it make sense to me.
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I was buying for the future prospect. Sigh... What a disadvantage to minority share holders
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post Sep 13 2021, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 13 2021, 03:31 PM)
I think Scientex has been fair...

Well, Scientex become tailo in 2019.

https://www.thesundaily.my/business/daiboch...rm125m-XM842123

or better still, the CIMB report is on daibochi website...

https://daibochi.com/wp-content/uploads/201...CIMB_181114.pdf

can see the pricing there...
now they buying the rest... pricing higher isn't it?

Daibochi shareholder cannot complain too much, right?
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After factoring in the acquisition of Mega printing and packaging by daibochi, I think daibochi is pretty much undervalued now. the price I'm willing to sell daibochi? Rm3.50

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post Sep 13 2021, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 13 2021, 03:51 PM)
Between Scientex and Daibochi, shareholders on both sides can't say they didn't see the writing on the wall for this one.
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 13 2021, 03:52 PM)
After Scientex became tailo in 2019, a full takeover is always a 'risk' or possibility and if it happens, the 'risk' is you will never get the value you think Daibochi is worth....

well.. if you don't likey......  you can always not sell (ask cubalagi on how stuff like this works)
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Agree also. I'm just lamenting why wanna do this when the share performance is lousy. Another story of small fish eaten by big shark.

The mynmar issue which causes things to escalate...
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post Sep 16 2021, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 16 2021, 07:30 PM)
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That's applies assuming you have a constant supply to keep invested when fresh money over time

the reality is, if the economy turns sour, probability is that, one might lose job and therefore no bullet left to shoot in when the share price is at lowest

one must be very discipline to set a side money to ensure that during bad times, even you are out of job, you are still able to fork out money to do DCA and ride over it
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post Sep 17 2021, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 17 2021, 09:48 AM)
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the circled area.. QR report belum out. can hentam without looking at FA ke?
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post Sep 17 2021, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Sep 17 2021, 10:55 AM)
90 cents thats my fair value, this stock still lack publicity. So fair value may forever not realised like many other bursa counter.

But usually once it get started and pick up steam, there is a very high high chance i think it could land at 1.50 or more. 3x 😬

Pig get slaughtered , so i try not to think about gains so much as potential losses now haaa
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Did you consider their warrant since it is trading on negative premium?
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post Sep 17 2021, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 17 2021, 12:01 PM)
having a 'target' is good... at least one can gauge if the trade/investment makes sense or not...

some buy stock A at 8.00 bucks... and their target is only about 9.20....
it's like....  rolleyes.gif
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I think as long the objective of earning money is there, it's fine

Assuming stock A PE is 10 and earnings in increasing year by year. Have a dividend policy payout of 60 percent. Is not bad to invest in it although target is only 9.20
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post Sep 18 2021, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Sep 18 2021, 03:12 PM)
Often feel hilarious for some to be offended by alternative opinions and facts (read, ego).
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Boomers are more likely to be offended. they are more rigid in their thinking and thus making them a very disciplined traders

Strawberries? Fast angry and fast forgiving. making them far more flexible and adaptive to market
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tech counter has rather been overvalued if you study it in FA side

but if the TA+sentimental tells another side of story then... rclxub.gif


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post Sep 19 2021, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(YH1234 @ Sep 19 2021, 07:05 PM)
i deem low pe stock as lower risk rather than bargain, some perceive this two are similar in nature, however to me lower risk denote consistent improvement while bargain is when the stock could have a double or triple digit growth in profitability. i rarely buy trendy stock because i dont know what is the best time to sell, and most of the time while i do this i am back to square one in the end and if unfortunately follow with an event like black swan, i be worst than when i first started.

thats my rational to go into glove now.
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i think many people here tried to warn about value trap right? whistling.gif

especially when you think you are trading it buy low sell higher, you may ended up be a long term investor staying in a high floor penthouse whistling.gif whistling.gif

some people might argue investing and trading is about the same, but i find it not. investing is finding a valuable stock that trading at a discount and a decent price. even you kena trapped and you are willing to sit on it and forgo opportunity cost and believing that one day it will be trading at a price what you think it would be. guess what... you will end up being very frustrated at times, especially when the world market crashed. can you hold your emotion during the bad times?

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post Sep 19 2021, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Sep 19 2021, 11:50 PM)
Always. But there will always be signs.
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How do you identify the signs? Everyone interprets the chart differently. And some even uses different yardstick to make interpretation

For me? Die die hold only 😅. Lucky there's a bull run during the pandemic. If not die also don't know what happen😅😅


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post Sep 20 2021, 03:13 PM

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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/node/586074?

Raise debt ceiling.. Here we come again?
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 20 2021, 04:42 PM)
Analysts also write TPs in accordance with what the retailer wants to see.
The JP Morgan is a rare case. I take most TPs as kopitiam TCSS.

Look a the history of TPs on TG. The same dataset on demand & supply quoted, but TPs went from above 10.0 last year to under 2 now.
In regards to the huge volume of shorts against TG before the QR was released, the 2021 annual performance target for fund managers is done and dusted.
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not really, regulated short selling volume is low
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post Sep 20 2021, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 20 2021, 06:45 PM)
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you can bash all you want, but you should also take a look on the other side, which is vaccine efficiency. it is known to public that vaccine effectiveness declines over period of time. will there be a spike again in the near future and ASP price increase again, who knows?

and covid is able to strive twice because of it's variant. But yeah. Gloves sentiment is bad enough, and that's enough to kill

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post Sep 20 2021, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 20 2021, 07:22 PM)
Dude... did you really read what I re-pasted?

it's all about Macquarie report which had the same set of declining earnings as others. Macquarie called it out but others like CIMB did not.

Like this also call bashing? Are you kidding me?

well... go learn to use the IGNORE button, if you choose to read what you want to read.
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hey uncle, i did not accuse you of bashing on the Macquarie statement part. i somehow agree of your if it's a spade let's call it a spade statement

you write this alot of times already lah, very obvous you are bashing those people you referring to as:

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 20 2021, 06:45 PM)

And yup... those sin kahs, they dismissed Macquarie as a report used to manipulate the stock lower just because of a call warrant in the money.
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Time to give a break lah sweat.gif

You do know Macquarie did issue quite a numbers of gloves CALL warrant right? and coincidentally they issue a report on Topglove future declining earnings BEFORE the warrant expires

and coincidentally they issue PUT warrant. they are hedging tools for themselves but

and if so many coincident stuff happening.... of cause there will be many speculating/scandalous story behind yes? some people may buy and and some people may not

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 20 2021, 07:14 PM)
Dropping vaccine efficacy or new virus variants could be countered with regular booster shot like flu.
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oh please, would you like it if you offspring always injected for vaccine shot maybe twice or 4 times yearly?

means it's like a drug already. will literally die if you do not get the jab

it has to stop somewhere and let natural herd immunity takes over

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 20 2021, 08:50 PM)
Moore's Law is dead... LOL
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It's not dead. it's still too early to judge

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dupe

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