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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V150

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Alone
post Apr 19 2019, 09:52 AM

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Hoo..... the sifus here seem pretty resentful with low patience.

QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Apr 19 2019, 12:03 AM)
You sound really inexperienced. Short term trades are not for people with small capital. One transaction alone can incur high fees that will eat up whatever profit you earned in that short duration of time.

Maybe you can start with Malaysian stocks first. Penny stocks are extremely volatile with many people speculating hoping to 'goreng' it to earn a profit.
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In no part of my post did I mention I'm trading penny stocks. I do not know any of the fees that might be incurred because I cannot find much info, other than HK stocks, that is why I'm asking.

Malaysian stocks are too calm for me, since I have traded US stocks before, and I am spoiled for volatility.
So yes, I'm a newbie in Asian market.

QUOTE(infested_ysy @ Apr 19 2019, 02:19 AM)
You haven't started yet, and you're already asking everyone else to do your homework for you.

Imagine how screwed you'd be once you start buying stocks for real.
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I have google searched and failed to to see which indices are top most volatile among the Asian market. There's potential growth companies here, and I am just trying to narrow down to one country. If I do not know where to look for possible brokers, why is it wrong for me to ask for info from more experienced guys here? If I do not know which websites are reputable, is it wrong that I'm asking someone for help? Did I ask you to tell me which stocks to buy? When to buy or when to sell?



There's no need to bare fangs with your assumptions, please.

This post has been edited by Alone: Apr 19 2019, 09:56 AM
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post Apr 19 2019, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Alone @ Apr 19 2019, 09:52 AM)
Malaysian stocks are too calm for me, since I have traded US stocks before, and I am spoiled for volatility.
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What's your definition of volatility? Penny stocks are volatile. A RM0.20 stock increase to RM0.21 is a 5% increase. Contrast this with stock worth RM10 which increase to RM10.01. which is a 0.1% increase.

I'm saying since you like speculating and short term, you can start using Malaysian penny stocks like IRIS. Alternatively, you can invest in indexes that try to profit from volatility like VIX.
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post Apr 19 2019, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(Alone @ Apr 19 2019, 09:52 AM)
Hoo..... the sifus here seem pretty resentful with low patience.
In no part of my post did I mention I'm trading penny stocks. I do not know any of the fees that might be incurred because I cannot find much info, other than HK stocks, that is why I'm asking.

Malaysian stocks are too calm for me, since I have traded US stocks before, and I am spoiled for volatility.
So yes, I'm a newbie in Asian market.
I have google searched and failed to to see which indices are top most volatile among the Asian market. There's potential growth companies here, and I am just trying to narrow down to one country. If I do not know where to look for possible brokers, why is it wrong for me to ask for info from more experienced guys here? If I do not know which websites are reputable, is it wrong that I'm asking someone for help? Did I ask you to tell me which stocks to buy? When to buy or when to sell?
There's no need to bare fangs with your assumptions, please.
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Most Asian market is not as volatile as stocks in US, apart from HK (typically warrant stocks).

Personally I find HK market is the one more volatile (I could be wrong though)

Other Asian bourses are relatively smaller, hence volatility is lesser too.
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post Apr 19 2019, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Apr 19 2019, 10:10 AM)
What's your definition of volatility? Penny stocks are volatile. A RM0.20 stock increase to RM0.21 is a 5% increase. Contrast this with stock worth RM10 which increase to RM10.01. which is a 0.1% increase.

I'm saying since you like speculating and short term, you can start using Malaysian penny stocks like IRIS. Alternatively, you can invest in indexes that try to profit from volatility like VIX.
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My bad, I didn't specify. Yes, i'm looking for countries with mid caps that can go 5%-10% within a month.


QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 19 2019, 10:40 AM)
Most Asian market is not as volatile as stocks in US, apart from HK (typically warrant stocks).

Personally I find HK market is the one more volatile (I could be wrong though)

Other Asian bourses are relatively smaller, hence volatility is lesser too.
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Thank you, yes probably that's why I can find more info about HK than anything else lol

I'll go dig lowyat for reputable news sites then, lest I be scorned for asking here again.
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post Apr 19 2019, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Alone @ Apr 19 2019, 04:28 PM)
My bad, I didn't specify. Yes, i'm looking for countries with mid caps that can go 5%-10% within a month.
Thank you, yes probably that's why I can find more info about HK than anything else lol

I'll go dig lowyat for reputable news sites then, lest I be scorned for asking here again.
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5-10%, I think is pretty easy to find even in bursa.

In hk, some of the hk mid cap stocks can goes + or - 30% or more within a month depends on market condition especially before Q result coming out.

The problem is shorting mechanism in Malaysia not really attractive compare to US or HK market. Short sellers cannot punish bad result company kao kao, so our volatility is lower.

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post Apr 19 2019, 08:52 PM

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some within 1 day sudah 5% at least
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Apr 19 2019, 07:50 PM)
5-10%, I think is pretty easy to find even in bursa.

In hk, some of the hk mid cap stocks can goes + or - 30% or more within a month depends on market condition especially before Q result coming out.

The problem is shorting mechanism in Malaysia not really attractive compare to US or HK market. Short sellers cannot punish bad result company kao kao, so our volatility is lower.
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yeah... well chicken and egg basically, low volatility can also be manipulated to make a lot of people lose a lot of money if they short, so they don't allow shorting.

I wonder how's those 280 stocks that was allowed to be shorted are doing...
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post Apr 20 2019, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(Alone @ Apr 19 2019, 11:52 PM)
yeah... well chicken and egg basically, low volatility can also be manipulated to make a lot of people lose a lot of money if they short, so they don't allow shorting.

I wonder how's those 280 stocks that was allowed to be shorted are doing...
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More like the government don't want people to short because it will depress the market further. Even if shorting is allowed, it's for day only.
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post Apr 20 2019, 01:39 PM

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Can iwcity go back rm3 if bandar malaysia revive?
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post Apr 22 2019, 12:16 PM

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Hopefully KLCI can sustain its current level, good day everyone
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post Apr 22 2019, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Apr 20 2019, 01:39 PM)
Can iwcity go back rm3 if bandar malaysia revive?
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Don't think so. The fundamentals is pretty bad to me.
Even with the project, I doubt it can turn around
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post Apr 22 2019, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Apr 22 2019, 01:07 PM)
Don't think so. The fundamentals is pretty bad to me.
Even with the project, I doubt it can turn around
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Went limit up today

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post Apr 22 2019, 09:02 PM

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haha..esok limit down?
goreng due tht old picture spread and speculation around telegram groups... and cakap got the BM project? laugh die me
ekovest 3 round of limit up and iwcity 9am open sudah limit up..
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post Apr 22 2019, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Apr 22 2019, 09:02 PM)
haha..esok limit down?
goreng due tht old picture spread and speculation around telegram groups... and cakap got the BM project? laugh die me
ekovest 3 round of limit up and iwcity 9am open sudah limit up..
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You gorenging? Looks tempting but risky since already shooting up.
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post Apr 23 2019, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Apr 22 2019, 10:49 PM)
You gorenging? Looks tempting but risky since already shooting up.
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This 2 stock I will stay away wan.. Not even border to see much
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post Apr 24 2019, 04:23 AM

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Guys, still new in this and I found out some of my transaction don't have stamp duty.. After Google it said small and mid company is exempted.. But my weird thing is when buy no stamp duty and when I sell I kena stampduty... And I can't find the list of those company which exempted.. I only found 2017 Dec result.. Anyone can give some advise?
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post Apr 24 2019, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(eddie2020 @ Apr 24 2019, 04:23 AM)
Guys, still new in this and I found out some of my transaction don't have stamp duty.. After Google it said small and mid company is exempted.. But my weird thing is when buy no stamp duty and when I sell I kena stampduty... And I can't find the list of those company which exempted.. I only found 2017 Dec result.. Anyone can give some advise?
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Buy and sell no stamp duty for small and mid cap unless they update the list
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post Apr 24 2019, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Apr 24 2019, 12:46 PM)
Buy and sell no stamp duty for small and mid cap unless they update the list
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Do you have the list? Haha see wrong... Found out no stamp duty.. Last nite to blur

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post Apr 24 2019, 07:15 PM

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Any app or web i can play shares virtually or just for traning for noob. Bursa marketplace not working.

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