QUOTE(luvox @ Oct 10 2016, 04:23 PM)
Single shot. If u adjust the distribution depth deeper i dont even need to tamp the ground. I can keep my tamper away d. Very happy with the even leveling and espresso pull. Result more crema n no channeling compare with my regular tamper. Real smart invention for consistant pull, no need skill or practise to get nice pull
Nice professional way of measuring those shot.... Mine is simple, as long as the coffee ground doesn't over the rigged line too much then it is all good. i always get good constant shot taste with crema. The only way i know if it is too much or too little ground, is when my tamper base is either over the half or under half of the base when i tamp it.
QUOTE(jsoe8 @ Oct 10 2016, 04:41 PM)
Time to do some research.. Can't seem to find a head to head comparison between the two machines.
Is the performance a lot better than Rancilio? Some guidance please

it's going to be my first semi-auto machine.
Coffee Ritual quoting Oscar 2 at 4k while Cuppa quoted Silvia at 3.7k
In terms of looks IMHO, I like the rugged look of Silvia a lot though. Oscar 2 is a bit too futuristic.
+1 from me
Get the oscar 2 as well,
I came from rancilio silvia ver 3. before i switch over Simonelli Oscar ver 1.
Silvia is a nice machine, all built of metal, robust even for internal parts hence the design of the silvia hardly change for 4 generation which makes it good because it prolong your machine as the spare part are available when breakdown any time due to similar design for 4 generation.
With this machine, it is recommended that you get the PID install to give a consistent control of the temperature because sometime the temperature can be exceeding the recommendation temp for brewing. Customize with PID is easy (Yes, i do customize my machine with PID back then, mine PID is low end type so no preinfusion included) and also it allow hot water dispenser which also makes it easy to do internal self cleaning.
As for the steam, it is as good as the oscar model, strong and powerful with single hole tip which required a little bit of technique getting used to for the milk to swirl in the pitcher to get the microfoam but once you get the hang out of it then your good to go.
Now the problem comes when the machine is a single boiler machine, mean that you can only do 1 process at 1 time. Each process complete needed to wait for like 10 second or more for the next process to happen because it need time to heat up the boiler for next process. By that time, either your milk or coffee become a bit cold due to waiting process. Hence that were the PID comes into play, It will help you to speed up abit the heating process (It wont damage your internal machine parts since it also control temp).
I cant comment much about Oscar ver 2. since i don't owned them but if you like to know about Oscar Ver 1. i can let you know
That is my review and take on Rancilio Silvia

QUOTE(Dan430 @ Oct 10 2016, 05:04 PM)
Woah HUGE difference. one is single boiler and another is heat exchanger. it will be better if you let us know what type of coffee drinker you are. Espresso or milk base, if Both then get the oscar 2 but then again at both the price better go for oscar 2.

Search on mudah.com for some good deals too.
Yup, with mudah, you can even get a commercial machine grade with price close to your Oscar or Silvia but bare in mind most of the owner who sell their machine are cafe owner. So you just got to beware on the internal parts and the machine year of service
P/S: i got my Simonelli Oscar from the cafe owner as well.
This post has been edited by d33pbluez: Oct 11 2016, 11:37 AM