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Discussion Difference between AAA and Ori Jerseys

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razuryza
post Jan 26 2007, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(vipass @ Jan 26 2007, 01:49 PM)
Since this is a thread bout jersey, and hope any bros can share the actual price of
ori jerseys in KL? anyone manage to get ori Italia 4 star jersey down there?
Thanks!:D
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wait aa.. tonite i'll snap photo of my arsenal ori jersey bought in UK...then u all can compare.. (sorry no fake arsenal jersey with me to compare with tongue.gif )

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post Jan 26 2007, 09:46 PM

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here we go.. the photos of my ORI Arsenal Home jersey.. bought in UK... so..do compare with ur arsenal jersey.. hehe rclxms.gif
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post Jan 26 2007, 09:48 PM

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continue here
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see the quality of the badge.. tags? labels? also the texture of the nike sphere dry material... hehe thumbup.gif
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post Jan 26 2007, 11:41 PM

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You know, that "made in indonesia" tag really makes me wonder if we're just making up the differences between AAA grade and original jerseys. (placebo)
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QUOTE(Tachikoma @ Jan 26 2007, 11:41 PM)
You know, that "made in indonesia" tag really makes me wonder if we're just making up the differences between AAA grade and original jerseys. (placebo)
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well what to do.. the labour in indon much cheaper i think..heheh.. ok what.. than made in thailand.. but it is yes, ORI jersey!

p/s:if u see closely to the label inside the shirt.. it was made for nike netherland.. for european market i think...

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post Jan 27 2007, 12:55 AM

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if you buy an original jersey part of your hard earned money goes to the club (who in reality probably doesn't need it that much...)

if you buy a fake your money goes to some pirate goods peddler (who probably also doesn't need it that much)
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post Jan 27 2007, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 27 2007, 12:55 AM)
if you buy an original jersey part of your hard earned money goes to the club (who in reality probably doesn't need it that much...)

if you buy a fake your money goes to some pirate goods peddler (who probably also doesn't need it that much)
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yeah, absolutely correct.. couldnt agree more... thumbup.gif

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post Jan 27 2007, 02:51 AM

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QUOTE(Tachikoma @ Jan 26 2007, 11:41 PM)
You know, that "made in indonesia" tag really makes me wonder if we're just making up the differences between AAA grade and original jerseys. (placebo)
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It is indeed in fact original, even though it is made in indonesia.

Let me tell u straight from Mr Chen, Nike Malaysia's Marketing manager on how to differentiate original and fake/grade AAA jersey:

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1. The price tag must have code bar stickers on it along with it's design code and colour code.

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2. The inner tags (located inside the shirt, below the shirt) must have the black nike tag logo with the red nike swoosh and also with the security thread embroided on the left side of the tag. If u flip over the black nike, behind it is a code confidential to Nike (no idea what it represents). Could be serial number for the shirt.

These 2 features differentiate between Ori and fake.

Anyway, beginning 2007 all nike football jerseys (barca, inter milan, man utd, arsenal, others) are using NikeFit technology, no longer Nike Sphere Dry. Dunno why... new technology i guess.

Last time it was sphere dry:

Arsenal:
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2007 it's now NikeFit:

Arsenal:
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Man United:
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Barca:
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The way their inner tag design (the one displaying the shirt size, measurement etc) also changed, like Malaysia's new jersey:

Last time it was like this:
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2007 inner measurement/size design:

Malaysia jersey:
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Man United jersey:
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Arsenal jersey:
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*Sorry to razuryza and aisuzan for borrowing your images
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post Jan 27 2007, 03:03 AM

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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Jan 27 2007, 02:51 AM)

*Sorry to razuryza and aisuzan for borrowing your images
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nevermind.. thanx for the explaination too.. so.. people out there would gain some knowledge on ORI jersey..so that people wont be cheated again with those peddlars...huehue thumbup.gif
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Sure got difference,d fabric,design,numbers,tag...
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post Jan 29 2007, 08:42 PM

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this is my cheap jersey,
only rm25 for normal jersey
rm35 for jersey with number




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Aztec
post Jan 29 2007, 10:48 PM

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looks nice..where you get?
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post Jan 30 2007, 12:39 AM

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One of my officemates told me that Al-Ikhsan actually has it's own factory to manufactured original jersey and claimed it from original manufacturer

One of the jersey is Man Utd jersey...
I dunno about this but, better beware if they can give lot of discount of so-called original jersey...

My friend went to UK last dec and found out that there's no discount at all for original jersey, even it stated Made in Morocco for Man Utd jersey
and how in the hell, Al-Ikhsan can give discount kau-kau?
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QUOTE(madstone @ Jan 30 2007, 12:39 AM)
One of my officemates told me that Al-Ikhsan actually has it's own factory to manufactured original jersey and claimed it from original manufacturer

One of the jersey is Man Utd jersey...
I dunno about this but, better beware if they can give lot of discount of so-called original jersey...

My friend went to UK last dec and found out that there's no discount at all for original jersey, even it stated Made in Morocco for Man Utd jersey
and how in the hell, Al-Ikhsan can give discount kau-kau?
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i donno bout al-ikhsan..but..i know bout discount in UK.. i went to UK last month.. the Manchester United Megastore of course no discount..but if you go to other sports outlet.. u may get up to 30% discount of ori jersey.. but..must pandai cari kedai la wink.gif then..if u convert back to RM.. still about rm 200 wattt tongue.gif
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QUOTE(madstone @ Jan 30 2007, 12:39 AM)
One of my officemates told me that Al-Ikhsan actually has it's own factory to manufactured original jersey and claimed it from original manufacturer

One of the jersey is Man Utd jersey...
I dunno about this but, better beware if they can give lot of discount of so-called original jersey...

My friend went to UK last dec and found out that there's no discount at all for original jersey, even it stated Made in Morocco for Man Utd jersey
and how in the hell, Al-Ikhsan can give discount kau-kau?
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But how accurate is your office mate's statement? No offence to A.I buyers or fans, but I myself feel that the quality of the jerseys they are selling there is a little bit different from what we seen in the sports outlets. I wonder where they get the jerseys from actually, is there someone who is willing to find out the truth. nod.gif

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QUOTE(razuryza @ Jan 30 2007, 01:10 AM)
i donno bout al-ikhsan..but..i know bout discount in UK.. i went to UK last month.. the Manchester United Megastore of course no discount..but if you go to other sports outlet.. u may get up to 30% discount of ori jersey.. but..must pandai cari kedai la wink.gif then..if u convert back to RM.. still about rm 200 wattt  tongue.gif
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my friend knew about that too BUT he also didn't trust it since there r rumours that those shops get it from Thailand...
and the factory in Thailand also true coz one of my friend went to the factory somewhere in Bangkok
the factory did not sell the jersey locally but totally for export to UK ONLY drool.gif
QUOTE(fr4g*st3r @ Jan 30 2007, 01:23 AM)
But how accurate is your office mate's statement? No offence to A.I buyers or fans, but I myself feel that the quality of the jerseys they are selling there is a little bit different from what we seen in the sports outlets. I wonder where they get the jerseys from actually, is there someone who is willing to find out the truth. nod.gif
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My friend is a very very die hard fan of Manu (i know thousand of you also a die hard fan)
i know i can trust him coz he's an experience man for buying jersey
before i buy any jersey, i will still ask him where to buy

eventhough he went to UK to buy jersey, he still didn't buy it coz too expensive

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QUOTE(Aztec @ Jan 29 2007, 10:48 PM)
looks nice..where you get?
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i bought at kota bharu,only rm25-30 for normal jersey
you can get rm20 per jersey in pengkalan kubur,kelantan
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QUOTE(madstone @ Jan 30 2007, 12:39 AM)
One of my officemates told me that Al-Ikhsan actually has it's own factory to manufactured original jersey and claimed it from original manufacturer

One of the jersey is Man Utd jersey...
I dunno about this but, better beware if they can give lot of discount of so-called original jersey...

My friend went to UK last dec and found out that there's no discount at all for original jersey, even it stated Made in Morocco for Man Utd jersey
and how in the hell, Al-Ikhsan can give discount kau-kau?
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I don't agree with you. I went to Nike Malaysia's HQ office located at The Curve. I met the marketing manager to discuss some things with him. His name is Mr. Chen.

They themselves endorsed and suggested me to tell others if they really want to buy genuine nike stuff, buy at al-ikhsan. I always see al-ikhsan agents coming in and out of the office. They say that if you can't buy at their Nike Boutique, you can buy at al-ikhsan to get 100% original nike stuff.

I myself learned from him on how to easily differentiate between fake and ori nike jersey.

Here is some pictures of the Nike Malaysia HQ Office, just to prove my story:

The Nike Malaysia office, located at The Curve:
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Front sign near the door entrace:
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Front desk inside the office:
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Al-Ikhsan person trying to 'ngorat' the receptionist (I guess).. hehe:
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Some nice banners inside the office entrance:
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Well.. back to the story you said about Al-Ikhsan selling fake shirts. I'm not so sure about that... If your mate saw shirts/jerseys that states it's 'Made in Thailand', that doesn't necessary mean it's fake. Use the guide I will share on telling how to differentiate original and fake Nike jerseys. For adidas, well.. I'm not so sure how because I'm a United fan and I'm used to telling fake Umbro and Nike jerseys.

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QUOTE(madstone @ Jan 30 2007, 10:00 AM)
my friend knew about that too BUT he also didn't trust it since there r rumours that those shops get it from Thailand...
and the factory in Thailand also true coz one of my friend went to the factory somewhere in Bangkok
the factory did not sell the jersey locally but totally for export to UK ONLY  drool.gif
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u think..there is no Original jersey dat made in thailand? pulease... there's a lot of them that is made in thailand!
and do you think.. malaysia jersey that is made in portugal, is sold in portugal? same case here...thailand made jersey selling for overseas market...

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QUOTE(madstone @ Jan 30 2007, 10:00 AM)
my friend knew about that too BUT he also didn't trust it since there r rumours that those shops get it from Thailand...
and the factory in Thailand also true coz one of my friend went to the factory somewhere in Bangkok
the factory did not sell the jersey locally but totally for export to UK ONLY  drool.gif My friend is a very very die hard fan of Manu (i know thousand of you also a die hard fan)
i know i can trust him coz he's an experience man for buying jersey
before i buy any jersey, i will still ask him where to buy

eventhough he went to UK to buy jersey, he still didn't buy it coz too expensive
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Nike sales told me that because of globalisation, some jerseys, apparels and products are manufactured in Thailand. If you look at United's new training kit, it states 'Made in Thailand' but I guarantee you it's original. Even the Arsenal jersey that Razuryza bought from UK iteslf is 'Made in Indonesia'. And you got it from UK..

Things that can determine if it's fake:

1. The quality of the material/fabric is very poor and not as good as the original. You can normally see the difference when compare with ori jersey.

2. The embroidery/stitching as well is poor and not correct.

3. There is no security tags inside the shirt (the nike one is the small black rectangular tag with red nike swoosh and sewn with security nike thread on the left hand side of the tag. if you flip the tag, you can see some nike codes).

4. Fake or grade AAA jerseys normally come in XL sizes. This was the trend since years ago when these fake jerseys came out. But nowadays you can even find a M size jersey. This has been found in ebay as well (as I was one of the victims in ebay, I posted a website on describing it). But the M size jerseys uses wrong size information. It states M size but the measurements in inches are 45/47, which is a XL size measurement.

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