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 Insurance Talk V3, Anything and everything about insurance

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post Jan 15 2016, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jan 15 2016, 08:46 AM)
Noted and thanks.

AA
Market value includes the land price etc. Insurance will only cover for the reconstruction, maybe x% of the market value?

Suppose I insure for RM0.5 million. After reconstruction, the bill is only RM0.4 million. Can I claim for RM0.5 million?

BB
So the costs will be different depending on the extent of coverage. I thought there is only a standard building coverage.

CC
So I should pool all my insurance with 1 company and try to get a better deal. Ha.

Many thanks.
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It's better to over insure than under insure because if it's under insured say the market value was found to be 0.5m that time and insurance is only 0.4% that will be lesser by 20% of the original insurance coverage so the insurance company will only compensate 80% of 0.4m

Fire insurance is main coverage for a building policy and from there you can add on other perils if necessary

Yeap provided all the building belong to the same company

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post Jan 16 2016, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(doraemonkiller @ Jan 16 2016, 12:02 AM)
i bought GE insurance n monthly pay RM200. Got this today... What if I dont pay?
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As stated in the policy you will need to top up the stated amount if not the policy will lapse and you will not be covered.


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post Jan 16 2016, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jan 16 2016, 03:26 PM)
One question came to mind.

If a shop (with shop insurance) got burnt down, can the owner claim for the insured amount after all the legal things have been sorted out (police report etc)?

Or the insurance company will only pay for the reconstruction cost up to the insured value over a period of time?

Thanks.

P/S Will this be fair estimation of the insured value?

AA Purchase price = 0.5 million
BB Each year, add 3% inflation
CC Insured value = 80% of BB
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You will have to report the thing first then the insurance will inspect. After investigation is finish only then you will be paid in one lump sum.

If you didn't not calculate in the inflation and insure the same amount as u did 10 years ago. And the market value is more than ur current coverage, you will be paid as % depending on how much you have underinsured.

It will be best to always stick to the Fair Market Value shown in the insurance company system or get a valuer to value the said property as a record.
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post Jan 16 2016, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(doraemonkiller @ Jan 16 2016, 10:32 PM)
I bought it last year Jan. I pay every month. Age 28 this year.
Anyone face this issue before?
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payment method via credit card, debit card or cash ?
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post Jan 16 2016, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(doraemonkiller @ Jan 16 2016, 11:24 PM)
saving account. Got late payment once due to lack of balance in account. Then I transfer money to my agent for that. Others no problem.
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Possibilities
1. Payment didn't managed to be deducted from savings account after several tries thus company has stopped auto deduction
2. Agent didn't pay for you after taking ur money
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post Jan 17 2016, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(flowerpower212 @ Jan 17 2016, 04:28 PM)
Hi everyone. Would appreciate your help with insurance.
I have no experience buying medical cards. Please help.

Deciding to choose between stand-alone medical cards, AIA A-life med regular and AXA Affin SCO.

1) Are both guaranteed renewable? Do both have portfolio withdraw clause?

    Which card can be renewed for up to another 50 years?
    If I buy a medical card now in 2016 and then AIA or AXA comes out with another new medical card, say in 2020, do I reapply for the   
    new card like a new applicant and approval depending on my latest health status or can I continue with the card I bought in 2016?

2) Will my premium be increased due to my own heavy claims?

3) What other stand alone medical cards are there that are guaranteed renewable?

Thank you.
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1) All company has a withdraw clause, not only on these 2 particular companies. Why withdraw clause are there? so that it protects the operator in the event that suddenly a mass pool of people in this product were to do a huge claim out of the norm from the calculated risk.

I only know for AIA, it will last until age 100 smile.gif

You may apply(upgrade) the medical card should you find the medical card offering better coverage. Subject to your latest health status. You may also choose to continue this card you bought now.

2) Your premium will only be increased based on your age. Cost of insurance is subject to the operator's decision to change in the future should there be heavy claims.

3) Medical card are guarantee renewable until stated otherwise in the contract.
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post Jan 18 2016, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Jan 18 2016, 09:58 AM)
supersound is a professional at being cheated.
Reading about his gullible saga is like watching action scenes from bollywood.
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Lol

He tend to generalise. It's like an apple he ate is not sweet so all apple are not sweet.

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post Jan 18 2016, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Jan 18 2016, 02:23 PM)
You are right, when a MAA cheat a fellow here and he talk on this issue, other company's agents will say this is normal as they are trying to mislead that poor fellow that other companies won't cheat. And the next company also cheat this poor fellow, another company's agent will talk differently, this is insurance agent's SOP in real life. That's why I can be cheated for 3 times in a row shakehead.gif
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Well probably you haven't found your good agent yet then. Sometimes good things are just in front of you. You don't have to find high and low for it.
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post Jan 18 2016, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Jan 18 2016, 04:27 PM)
That agent I'm sure is not you whistling.gif
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I don't simply take in customer as well =)
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post Jan 18 2016, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Jan 18 2016, 05:43 PM)
I understand that, those that not easily can be cheated sure you will avoid.
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well, when I see someone who goes this low to hit on others, it just shows you're not a quality customer, albeit even a friend.

Good luck looking for someone who can tolerate your nonsense cause your money ain't worth my time no matter how much you're willing to spend. wink.gif
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QUOTE(bbsanta @ Jan 18 2016, 08:04 PM)
Hi All Insurance Gurus,

I recently did a review on my policy and decided to top my medical card

My old policy RM150:
Life : 50k
CI : 55k
Medical Card : 300k per life time
No waiver
Inside got cash value 5k ++

I top up another RM150 for the medical card with 10k life. Medical card Annual limit 1M and no lifetime limit with waiver

I had another MLTA worth 300k with waiver

I'm Planning to cut off the old policy since my sum assured is high enough to cover my expenses and it has no waiver and add another early Ci rider 100k into my new policy ( perhaps total cost me RM250-RM300 )

The problem is the cash value inside the old policy, will it worth to dump it all into the fund and let it roll ?

what i'm concerned is the cash value. if I dump it all into the fund. how is the performance comparison between the one I paying monthly in the old policy ?
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You can always upgrade from the old policy and change the benefits according to your need. If you feel that you over insured then you might want to consider cuttin some of the benefit. Performance of the fund is not guaranteed. You will have to decide if you need that you want to put the extra funds somewhere but ideally it'll be better to upgrade from existing policy
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post Jan 18 2016, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(bbsanta @ Jan 18 2016, 09:08 PM)
Unfortunately the medical card can't cause it's an old policy before AIA and ING merged ( old silver card ). Yes the performance fund ( AIA ) is not guaranteed.

Is there a big difference :
I continue with the RM150 installment ( where small allocation goes to the investment linked fund )

or

I cut the policy and dump all the cash value into the performance fund ?
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It's really up to you. Since it's an old policy try to study the benefit it has, sometimes old medical card will cover some which new medical card would omit.

If there is no such thing then you may consider to surrender the policy and move the funds to your insurance as a single top up.
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post Jan 20 2016, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(busyman @ Jan 20 2016, 01:45 PM)
Question

If I am working in Singapore, should I continue to pay for my malaysia health insurance ?
My understanding is that if anything happen to me in singapore, my malaysia insurance will not cover right ?

So better off just cancel my malaysia insurance ?

Kindly advice smile.gif

tq
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Your coverage is still available should you be coming back once in awhile every 3 months to Malaysia.

E.g you need the operation to be done in Malaysia instead.

Should you prefer to get the insurance in Singapore, you may do so with their local agents.

Although Malaysia has extensive policies that would cover all the way up to Singapore. smile.gif
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post Jan 20 2016, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(busyman @ Jan 20 2016, 01:57 PM)
So basically not worth to continue my malaysia insurance? (Just started few months ago)

I can imagine the malaysia+singapore coverage insurance will be a lot more exp right ?
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nod.gif well then you have to compare paying in SGD vs MYR for the premium
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post Jan 20 2016, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(busyman @ Jan 20 2016, 02:05 PM)
So
Let say i continue my malaysia insurance.

I did coming back to malaysia once every 3 months

My insurance will be still cover ?
If i have an accident in singapore, normal hospitalise in singapore not cover right ?
If life & death that kind, am I being cover even im all happen in singapore ?
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Yes, within every 3 months, the usual clause

Overseas Treatment
If the Assured Life elects to be treated outside Malaysia or is referred to be treated outside Malaysia by the attending Physician,
benefits in respect of the treatment shall be limited to the Reasonable and Customary Charges for such equivalent local treatment
in Malaysia and shall exclude the cost of transport to the place of treatment.

Residence Overseas
No benefit whatsoever shall be payable for any medical treatment received by the Assured Life outside Malaysia, if the Assured
Life resides or travels outside Malaysia for more than ninety (90) consecutive days.

Death will be covered, payable in Malaysia once you're certified dead e.g like MH17
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post Jan 21 2016, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(Phonzy @ Jan 20 2016, 09:31 PM)
I'm comparing an Allianz plan with Great Eastern..investment linked... On the surface Allianz looks more value for the money.

However , the GE agent brought my attention to the "cash value" whereby GE plan is way superior in terms of cash value 30 years later compared to Allianz (about 30k more)

My question is, can and should cash value be taken into consideration when purchasing a plan? As Allianz agent told me it's not guaranteed and company just simply project . Or do they project on some sort of fundamental basis?

Thanks
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Whenever you want to think of getting an investment link. Don't really bother with the 30 years projection as these are estimated and doesn't necessary achieve that said projection.

When you get an insurance policy, just think about the protection that you'll be trading off for the premium you paid. Never withdraw any money from ur insurance policy unless it's really necessary.
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post Jan 23 2016, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ Jan 23 2016, 08:46 PM)
Can explain what is this non deductible thing if you dont mind?
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deductible are co-insurance, meaning you have to pay part of the bill in the event of claim depending on the deductible stated in the insurance contract, some companies will cap it at a certain amount whereas sometimes there is no cap at all. Deductible are ways to decrease your cost of insurance but in return, you trade off by paying part of the fee in the event of claim.
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QUOTE(tropicanagolf @ Jan 24 2016, 01:16 AM)
I have a question on excess claims

I stayed in a RM350 room under a RM300 company medical card. I was subjected to 50 per day excess charge as well as a coinsurance of 1000

I have a personal medical card of 400, what can I claim? Am I able to claim the unutilised portion since I stayed a lower room based on my personal medical card 400?

Both are Allianz cards
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Can claim under 2nd card. Just file the claim to the insurance company

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post Jan 24 2016, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(intrepidity85 @ Jan 24 2016, 01:16 PM)
when there is 'no guaranteed profit' people will still go for it, why?

medical card is more enough.
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Yeap you're right. Most people get an insurance for protection rather than earning from it. Remember if you want investment then go for other financial tools such as unit trust or shares.
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QUOTE(calvinchua93 @ Jan 30 2016, 03:09 PM)
Does anyone here know abt the etiqa takaful harmoni plan? izit good to invest?
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What's the purpose of the purchase? if it's investment, what sort of return you're expecting ? 3% ? 5%? 8%? 10%? 30%?



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