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hmwong
post Mar 20 2007, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Mar 20 2007, 03:48 AM)
Sunauto,
can you tell me if the 37" Toshiba Regza LCD TV has clean Astro TV image or not. I was looking at the display at a shop (not viewing Astro) and the salesman recommended me Samsung instead of Toshiba because he claims Toshiba TV image has picture noise or pixel patches or something like that. Didn't quite understand exactly what he meant.

Your feedback is very much appreciated.
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Try Denki Best at MidValley. There is this Malay salesman who is very helpful. He installed Astro signal into a the Toshiba, JVC and Sony V series. Astro PQ is much better in the Toshiba compared to the JVC and at par with the V series which is much expensive. In my opinion, Toshiba is a good buy. Shopping for the best price now.

Suggest that you check out at Denki to compare.
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post Mar 20 2007, 03:22 PM

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Wow...

From DVD Player... now become LCD thread. Kekekeke.

I still love my Sony 76H. Only complain is the loading time is slow. Less jerky compared to my JVS dragon pick up lens. Kekekeke.

For LCD, guys... whatever the claim is... test it for yourself. Don't think many Malaysians own LCDs or Plasma that can generalise the whole situation.

At one time, ESH was proposing to me about the Philips new technology... and crispier pictures...
Samsung or Sony or Philips... once brought back... you don't have any other to compare. You will only have 1. And all the flaws or positive points will not noticed. The most important, you picked the right one for yourself.

For me, I never regret my LCD projector. Not a single moment although I have sent it for warranty claim before.
Everytime I finish watching a movie at home, I feel as if I was in GSC watching the movie... the subtitle came out just like GSC...
Anyway... u get what I mean...

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post Mar 20 2007, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(hmwong @ Mar 20 2007, 01:30 PM)
Try Denki Best at MidValley. There is this Malay salesman who is very helpful. He installed Astro signal into a the Toshiba, JVC and Sony V series. Astro PQ is much better in the Toshiba compared to the JVC and at par with the V series which is much expensive. In my opinion, Toshiba is a good buy. Shopping for the best price now.

Suggest that you check out at Denki to compare.
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Recently bought Toshiba Regza 42". The picture quality is easy on eyes and display is great with my XBOX360 (eyes candy).

Picture quality with my cheap dvd player is so grainy (lot of noise with the picture).
DVD movie visual is slightly improve (sharper/clearner) with my Xbox360 (component cable helps). I'll recommend Toshiba Regza series smile.gif

Now I'm reading this thread and doing some reseach for an affortable good HDMI player hmm.gif
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post Mar 20 2007, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(hackinz @ Mar 20 2007, 05:29 PM)
Recently bought Toshiba Regza 42". The picture quality is easy on eyes and display is great with my XBOX360 (eyes candy).

Picture quality with my cheap dvd player is so grainy (lot of noise with the picture).
DVD movie visual is slightly improve (sharper/clearner) with my Xbox360 (component cable helps). I'll recommend Toshiba Regza series  smile.gif 

Now I'm reading this thread and doing some reseach for an affortable good HDMI player  hmm.gif
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Wah jealous lor ........ using Regza 42" pulak to play XBOX 360, I bet the DOA 4 will look huge on your Regza. Hai ....... too bad ...... out of my budget, I'm just using a normal Bravia V series 40". My uncle is using a Regza 32" model. To be honest, Regza is pretty good, much better than my brother's Samsung R71.

Well, you need a good HDMI upscaling dvd player, I'll recommend Sony's 76H, Denon's 1930 / 2930 or Pioneer's 989, so far tested with good results. Normal cheapo dvd player will output a very terrible picture on your Regza as component videos are still analog but HDMI is fully digital and is not subjected to any distortion and lesser Y/C signal delays, resulting a better picture.
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Thanks everyone for the feedback smile.gif
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post Mar 20 2007, 10:21 PM

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Don't mention it, this is a place to discuss and share what we know. That's the purpose of having forums. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Ngto @ Mar 20 2007, 07:14 PM)
Thanks everyone for the feedback  smile.gif
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post Mar 21 2007, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 20 2007, 06:55 PM)
Wah jealous lor ........ using Regza 42" pulak to play XBOX 360, I bet the DOA 4 will look huge on your Regza. Hai ....... too bad ...... out of my budget, I'm just using a normal Bravia V series 40". My uncle is using a Regza 32" model. To be honest, Regza is pretty good, much better than my brother's Samsung R71.

Well, you need a good HDMI upscaling dvd player, I'll recommend Sony's 76H, Denon's 1930 / 2930 or Pioneer's 989, so far tested with good results. Normal cheapo dvd player will output a very terrible picture on your Regza as component videos are still analog but HDMI is fully digital and is not subjected to any distortion and lesser Y/C signal delays, resulting a better picture.
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No need to be jealous cuz you been enjoying your Bravia months (if not years) before me. So... in time and sooner than I, you'll get to upgrade your toy (teebee) again drool.gif

Thanks for the recommendation. Will check out Sony 76H very soon. Can't really tahan the poor picture display with cheapo dvd player on my Regza.

Gear of War & Lost Planet visually rock when pair with LCD 42" rclxms.gif Can't really go back to my CRT Sony 29" doh.gif However, I've hooked up my PS2 & play 'God of War 2'. It's only nature that I disappointed with the visual (480p only wua with composite cable) cuz it looks blur & unimpressive.


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post Mar 21 2007, 01:39 PM

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Well, there's a software for the PS2 which allows you to unlock it and output the games in 720P and 1080i resolution. I read that from the magazines but sadly not available here. PS2 is that bad, ar? I thought the Regza's built in scaler is not bad, if you say it doesn't look good on Regza, it will look worst on Samsung's R71. The Bravia handles SD materials quite well but not great, try playing classic consoles like Neo Geo CD, Saturn, PSX on a Bravia, you'll faint, the pixels were so rough and a lot of jaggies too. My standard CRT tv will be a better choice, actually, my Bravia LCD sits next to my CRT tv so I'm using both right now. Sigh ..... sounds crazy but true.

I'm just jealous that your screen is much bigger than mine, it will be great to play Gears Of War on a 42 incher. Hahaha. The visual impact is there. thumbup.gif Anyway, I won't upgrade so soon lah. Just bought my Bravia last year, pocket also lighter liao, if change again, I think I may need to eat maggi mee everyday. cry.gif



QUOTE(hackinz @ Mar 21 2007, 11:12 AM)
No need to be jealous cuz you been enjoying your Bravia months (if not years) before me. So... in time and sooner than I, you'll get to upgrade your toy (teebee) again  drool.gif

Thanks for the recommendation. Will check out Sony 76H very soon. Can't really tahan the poor picture display with cheapo dvd player on my Regza.

Gear of War & Lost Planet visually rock when pair with LCD 42"  rclxms.gif  Can't really go back to my CRT Sony 29"  doh.gif  However, I've hooked up my PS2 & play 'God of War 2'. It's only nature that I disappointed with the visual (480p only wua with composite cable) cuz it looks blur & unimpressive.
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The distance from my sofa to the TV cabinet where I intended to place my 42" Toshiba Regza is about 10 ft (eye-to-screen). Do you think it to too short a distance? Usually my kids also seated at the side sofa which is about 6-7 feet away. Should I consider the 37" instead?

One website quoted
"The right distance depends on the size of your TV:

For 20 to 27-inch displays, you should be able to watch comfortably from 2.5 to 5 feet away.
For 32 to 37-inch TVs, you should sit back 6 to 8 feet from the screen itself.
For 42 to 46-inch TVs, you'll need 10 to 14 feet between you and the screen.
50-inch LCD displays look best when viewed from 12 to 16 feet away."

What's your advice?


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QUOTE(hmwong @ Mar 21 2007, 09:07 PM)
The distance from my sofa to the TV cabinet where I intended to place my 42" Toshiba Regza is about 10 ft (eye-to-screen). Do you think it to too short a distance? Usually my kids also seated at the side sofa which is about 6-7 feet away. Should I consider the 37" instead?

One website quoted
"The right distance depends on the size of your TV:

For 20 to 27-inch displays, you should be able to watch comfortably from 2.5 to 5 feet away.
For 32 to 37-inch TVs, you should sit back 6 to 8 feet from the screen itself.
For 42 to 46-inch TVs, you'll need 10 to 14 feet between you and the screen.
50-inch LCD displays look best when viewed from 12 to 16 feet away."

What's your advice?
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Recently purchased Toshiba Regza 42". My viewing distance eye to screen is 11-12 feet. Side sofa viewing distance is 9 -10 feet.

42" is just nice if not a slightly difficult to cover the whole screen (widescreen format movie) for 12 feet center seat. Due to the angle of side sofa which viewing screen is slighly smaller, it works find at 9 - 10 feet.

IMHO, 37" is way to go for your case. No point to spend more and get something that does not fit in nod.gif Just my 2 cents opinion though




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QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 21 2007, 01:39 PM)
Well, there's a software for the PS2 which allows you to unlock it and output the games in 720P and 1080i resolution. I read that from the magazines but sadly not available here. PS2 is that bad, ar? I thought the Regza's built in scaler is not bad, if you say it doesn't look good on Regza, it will look worst on Samsung's R71. The Bravia handles SD materials quite well but not great, try playing classic consoles like Neo Geo CD, Saturn, PSX on a Bravia, you'll faint, the pixels were so rough and a lot of jaggies too. My standard CRT tv will be a better choice, actually, my Bravia LCD sits next to my CRT tv so I'm using both right now. Sigh ..... sounds crazy but true.

I'm just jealous that your screen is much bigger than mine, it will be great to play Gears Of War on a 42 incher. Hahaha. The visual impact is there.  thumbup.gif  Anyway, I won't upgrade so soon lah. Just bought my Bravia last year, pocket also lighter liao, if change again, I think I may need to eat maggi mee everyday.  cry.gif
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PS2 graphics on my Regza does not look bad (better with CRT) but rather lack of sharpness & details. Jaggies are mininum. Can't help by noticing and comparing the different of graphics between PS2 & Xbox360 (which I know is wrong). But hey dude, the details of graphics of Xbox360 is off the hook! Then again, when I turn to my DVD movie with cheapo DVD player... it is killing me vmad.gif

I have a friend having an LCD & CRT placing on his TV cabinet just like you did. I must say it is pretty weird to me. But then again, who give a d@mn if you are confortable and happy with the setting flex.gif
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post Mar 22 2007, 01:52 PM

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CRT is still good for standard definition sources no matter what and full screen sources look much better on a CRT, it looks weird on my LCD if I have to resize the screen for 4:3 materials, the black borders really looked weird but I rather watched it this way that to stretch the picture to full screen which will have a slightly distorted look. doh.gif

Well, normal HDTV panels don't come with a good video scaler, if your source have a built in video scaler, that will be much better. The Regza's video scaler is considered pretty good for handling standard definition sources as I've seen other brands costing more than Regza but doing a lousy job displaying standard definition sources. I personally don't own a Regza but comparing my uncle's Regza and my Bravia, I would say that it stacks up pretty well and it's cheaper too. The Bravia has slightly stronger constrast and deeper blacks but the Regza comes pretty close in terms of picture quality and yeah, feed it with XBOX 360 and PS3 games, it will shine. The best thing, Regza captures the motion smoothly without smearing, blurring and it doesn't suffer from motion artifacts. I guess Toshiba can probably forget about SED TV and concentrate more in their LCD business. The SED TV might not be feasible, it will probably cost more than a car when it is released as it's costly to build and manufacture.
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 22 2007, 01:52 PM)
CRT is still good for standard definition sources no matter what and full screen sources look much better on a CRT, it looks weird on my LCD if I have to resize the screen for 4:3 materials, the black borders really looked weird but I rather watched it this way that to stretch the picture to full screen which will have a slightly distorted look.  doh.gif

Well, normal HDTV panels don't come with a good video scaler, if your source have a built in video scaler, that will be much better. The Regza's video scaler is considered pretty good for handling standard definition sources as I've seen other brands costing more than Regza but doing a lousy job displaying standard definition sources. I personally don't own a Regza but comparing my uncle's Regza and my Bravia, I would say that it stacks up pretty well and it's cheaper too. The Bravia has slightly stronger constrast and deeper blacks but the Regza comes pretty close in terms of picture quality and yeah, feed it with XBOX 360 and PS3 games, it will shine. The best thing, Regza captures the motion smoothly without smearing, blurring and it doesn't suffer from motion artifacts. I guess Toshiba can probably forget about SED TV and concentrate more in their LCD business. The SED TV might not be feasible, it will probably cost more than a car when it is released as it's costly to build and manufacture.
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I did the same thing, whenever I watch TV or 4:3 materials, I usually switch to 4:3 to avoid the distortion.

To be honest, I'm happy to see good review from ya regarding to Toshiba Regza. Makes me feel good and worth my money for investing on it. I'm no expert with HDTV but I have put in effort in doing research to get most affortable & good performance HDTV within my budget.

Now... time has come for me to get a HDMI DVD Player. Going to check them out this weekend.

Any advise for sound system (tumpang thread)? Trying to keep my budget low... HDMI DVD Player + Sound system under RM1500.00. I live in a condo, so can't really have super loud system unsure.gif







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QUOTE(hackinz @ Mar 21 2007, 09:57 PM)
Recently purchased Toshiba Regza 42". My viewing distance eye to screen is 11-12 feet. Side sofa viewing distance is 9 -10 feet.

42" is just nice if not a slightly difficult to cover the whole screen (widescreen format movie) for 12 feet center seat. Due to the angle of side sofa which viewing screen is slighly smaller, it works find at 9 - 10 feet.

IMHO, 37" is way to go for your case. No point to spend more and get something that does not fit in  nod.gif  Just my 2 cents opinion though
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Thks 4 your opinion. BTW, what was the price of your 42"? Any idea what's the price for the 37"?
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Greetings !! smile.gif

I am looking for a LCD TV that is within the budget of $4,500 MYR [Max] ... but still figuring out which brand to go for ... too confusing rclxub.gif

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Seriously LCD's picture quality is no where near PLASMA/CRT. I mean PQ alone, LCD has other merits but not PQ.

All of them have common shortcomings, make sure u know what they are before u pour in ur hard earn money.
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Feb 8 2007, 08:57 PM)
My personal favourites will be as below.  rclxms.gif

Sony 76H < RM600
Denon 1930 < RM1500
Denon 2930 / Pioneer 989 < RM3000
Denon 3930 < RM6000
Arcam DV137 < RM10000  thumbup.gif
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Denon 2930 < RM3000? Are u sure?

Just went to Desa Home Theater and they quote me RM4300 for this player and that is after discount price. The list price is actually RM5400.


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Yalor, I'm sure about this, RM3000 for 2930, it's 2930, not 3930, dun get mixed up wor. Penang price lah, I dunno how much it is selling elsewhere and I also dunno who is the authorized importer for Denon, seems like got a few companies but it doesn't matter lah, if got warranty and after sales service, it's more than acceptable I guess but recently, RM3000 people also say too expensive liao, can get PS3 and watch Blu-Ray instead or get a decent HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player. Nowadays, RM3000 is freaking expensive for a dvd player, whether it's an audiophile one or not but honestly Denon can play DVD-Audios and SACDs but if you don't listen to those softwares, then no need to buy lor, get a Toshiba HD-DVD much better, it's also using a high quality upscale chip like the Denon too for standard dvds but is future ready as it plays HD-DVD softwares too. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(chinmh @ Mar 24 2007, 12:57 AM)
Denon 2930 < RM3000? Are u sure?

Just went to Desa Home Theater and they quote me RM4300 for this player and that is after discount price. The list price is actually RM5400.
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I didn't mixed up. 2930 is selling RM4300 and 3930 is around RM7500 here in KL.

Anyway, if Penang can get RM3k, i dun mind travel there since i can save so much. Can u tell me the shop name, address and contact no.?

Toshiba HD-DVD can only play region 1 dvd whereas my dvd collection is 50% region 1 and 50% region 2, so not suitable.



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