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Home Theatre Best HDMI DVD Player, Have you Found it Yet?

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post Feb 27 2007, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Feb 27 2007, 12:22 AM)
Tks Edifier, I have no problem with the LG set, it was due to ambient light. I checked it under total darkness and it was ok. It is typical that LG contrast is not as good as Toshiba. I should have added RM 350 for the Toshiba. Nevertheless I am very happy with the set.

Currently, I have tried most sorts of connection to the 37" lcd tv.
1. S-video RM 22 - Bought 24k gold plated cable for Astro purpose - terrible. worse than composite cable. I wish to have a monster cable or Ixos or Philips PXT 1000 for try. Theoritically S-video is better than composite, but the confusion is Astro is broadcasting Standard definition. so dont expect too much from Astro.

2. component cable RM 39 - Sony DVD 96h and lcd tv. This is good for those 1080i upscale movies. I tried watching monster incorporated, Lord of the ring and spider man, james taylor - nice.

3. HDMI cable RM 99. TXL link - sony DVD 96H to lcd tv. Wow. all I can say is Wow. Watching those movies is wow wow. Rich color, no more flashing at watching window frames ( antialising effects - those straight lines being rotated). Stereo sound, nice cabling. Forget about those RM 300 hdmi cables, after it is all digital.

4. RGB connection 15 pin D-Sub good grade RM 12 (kedai potong, dont buy those black cable loh) - HTPC to LCD TV. surfing internet and typing documents is very nice. Watching those 1080i movies - so so only. no wow.

5. dvi - > HDMI. HTPC connection to lcd tv. The cable returned to All-IT hyper. Suspect the cable problem and turned out to be true after I exchange the cable for HDMI cable (see no 3).

in fact, those guys in AVSFORUM suggest not to buy this DVI-HDMI cable at the moment. instead invest in HDMI-HDMI and buy HDMI to DVI converter. Future technology is going towards hdmi.
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Wow, very informative thread, it can clear up many doubts for other forumers here, good job notworthy.gif


Added on February 27, 2007, 10:39 am
QUOTE(ccschua @ Feb 12 2007, 07:39 PM)
I have spent 1400 for tv bench. I just dunno when is Sharp 37" PX coming out. Bysquasy care to highlight??

It appears no other shop can give you lower price than This company starts with capital L in SS2. Do let me know if you can find one. I will never go back to this L shop (LSLY).

latest price at post #92
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The new LC42PX5m is out, its priced at RM8800. There will not be 37" PX at this moment, cheers smile.gif

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post Feb 28 2007, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Feb 27 2007, 12:22 AM)

2. component cable RM 39 - Sony DVD 96h and lcd tv. This is good for those 1080i upscale movies. I tried watching monster incorporated, Lord of the ring and spider man, james taylor - nice.

3. HDMI cable RM 99. TXL link - sony DVD 96H to lcd tv. Wow. all I can say is Wow. Watching those movies is wow wow. Rich color, no more flashing at watching window frames ( antialising effects - those straight lines being rotated). Stereo sound, nice cabling. Forget about those RM 300 hdmi cables, after it is all digital.
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Should I get a HDMI cable only or also a component cable. When would component cable be an advantage over HDMI? I don't want to spend unnecessarily for a component cable if HDMI cable can deliver the best signal.
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post Mar 1 2007, 03:31 PM

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If you video source has DVI/HDMI output and your TV/Monitor has DVI/HDMI input by all means get it. Get the cheapest but with quality cable, RM 30 should be the average price for 1 to 2m. When more supplies flood the market ..prices should dwindle.
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post Mar 1 2007, 03:50 PM

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HDMI is a better choice since it's fully digital, not prone to signal distortion. A good HDMI capable is about RM100 plus though, it's worth spending more for better picture quality but don't spend RM1800 on a high end Audioquest HDMI cable, that's really an overkill. I guess RM100 plus to RM400 plus will be the reasonable range. The Monster Cable HDMI cable is around RM300 plus if I'm not mistaken, very good quality. If not, you can consider QED's HDMI cable too, CMY Audio is selling it.

QUOTE(hmwong @ Feb 28 2007, 11:36 PM)
Should I get a HDMI cable only or also a component cable. When would component cable be an advantage over HDMI? I don't want to spend unnecessarily for a component cable if HDMI cable can deliver the best signal.
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post Mar 1 2007, 04:07 PM

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You can go to All-It hypermarket to get the RM 99 hdmi cable, it has shielding and 1.5 m length, i think it is good enuf. Digital signal is not prone to interference, unlike component or composite, which is analog signal.

Alternatively, you can buy direct from ebay.com. Those guys are selling it at half the price I stated above.

Now I have a problem. My LCD has 1 hdmi input, which is used up by the dvd player. My RGB connection is good but I cant use it to watch dvd movies. If I manage to get good pictures with DVI-HDMI, I might consider using htpc as dvd player, and do the upscaling. I think those guys in avsforum are doing it.

In this case, i think i will need two hdmi input switch, hopefully with remote control.
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 1 2007, 04:07 PM)
You can go to All-It hypermarket to get the RM 99 hdmi cable, it has shielding and 1.5 m length, i think it is good enuf. Digital signal is not prone to interference, unlike component or composite, which is analog signal.

Alternatively, you can buy direct from ebay.com. Those guys are selling it at half the price I stated above.

Now I have a problem. My LCD has 1 hdmi input, which is used up by the dvd player. My RGB connection is good but I cant use it to watch dvd movies.  If I manage to get good pictures with DVI-HDMI, I might consider using htpc as dvd player, and do the upscaling. I think those guys in avsforum are doing it.

In this case, i think i will need two hdmi input switch, hopefully with remote control.
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Which LCD TV are you having now? I think the LCD manufacturers should give more HDMI ports as more and more devices are using HDMI connections. In my opinion at least 4 ports is needed to be future proof.


Added on March 1, 2007, 4:20 pm
QUOTE(bysquashy @ Mar 1 2007, 04:15 PM)
Which LCD TV are you having now? I think the LCD manufacturers should give more HDMI ports as more and more devices are using HDMI connections. In my opinion at least 4 ports is needed to be future proof.
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My memory failed me just now, now I remember you got a LG.

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post Mar 1 2007, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 1 2007, 04:07 PM)
My RGB connection is good but I cant use it to watch dvd movies. 
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what happen to your RGB???can't watch DVDs??
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QUOTE(ryansia @ Mar 1 2007, 04:22 PM)
what happen to your RGB???can't watch DVDs??
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Like he mentioned, the image will be so-so only. For the amount we pay for the TVs, surely we hope to get the best from it rather than having a bottleneck because of the cables smile.gif
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post Mar 1 2007, 04:36 PM

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in theory, DVI/HDMI is superior than RGB but in actual fact, if the RGB signal is "clean" enough, can't really spot the difference.
I myself has tested both RGB and DVI simultaneously on my LG by switching both inputs, the difference is marginal, at least to my case.
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The difference sometimes not visible to our naked eye but HDMI will be useful as it carried lossless audio signals too to be decoded by future amplifiers. They're invented for a purpose.

QUOTE(ryansia @ Mar 1 2007, 04:36 PM)
in theory, DVI/HDMI is superior than RGB but in actual fact, if the RGB signal is "clean" enough, can't really spot the difference.
I myself has tested both RGB and DVI simultaneously on my LG by switching both inputs, the difference is marginal, at least to my case.
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hhm....anyone who is using LG 32LC2R now?

its between this one, Sharp or Samsung. I am looking to buy a 32" only. biggrin.gif

Seeing that all the problems, advantage and disadvantage, I think hor, CRT still the best la...no hassle leh. tongue.gif
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Do consider Toshiba Regza W66 model, it's only RM3700 for the 32 incher range. Pretty good. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(gsuave @ Mar 1 2007, 05:14 PM)
hhm....anyone who is using LG 32LC2R now?

its between this one, Sharp or Samsung. I am looking to buy a 32" only. biggrin.gif

Seeing that all the problems, advantage and disadvantage, I think hor, CRT still the best la...no hassle leh. tongue.gif
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post Mar 1 2007, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(gsuave @ Mar 1 2007, 05:14 PM)
hhm....anyone who is using LG 32LC2R now?

its between this one, Sharp or Samsung. I am looking to buy a 32" only. biggrin.gif

Seeing that all the problems, advantage and disadvantage, I think hor, CRT still the best la...no hassle leh. tongue.gif
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the reason i didnt choose srt for my last purchase is that:

1) Crt connection with PC, which is kind of hassle and most CRT didnt come with HDMI, DVI or even VGA.

2) Reflection compare to LCD, same problem with plasma.

3) Huge! Can not be wall mount.

4) Flickering issue which cause eye strain.

Although there are some advantage on CRt compare to plasma and LCD, unless i can find a good CRT with either HDMI, DVI or VGA. Otherwise i will stay away from CRT. Slimfit from Samsung do came with the above connection, but the PQ is so so.
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in theory, DVI/HDMI is superior than RGB but in actual fact, if the RGB signal is "clean" enough, can't really spot the difference.


good RGB cable (with shielding might solve my problem)

Difference between RGB and HDMI/DVI - should not be great, I totally agree with you. I am using RGB -> DVI on my 19" lcd monitor to watch prison break, monster incorporated. etc. the result is good (remember this is analog, one step signal loss in D to A) I tried DVI-DVI and the difference is minimal.

However on my 37" LG LCD, when I use RGB, i cant get vivid color display like my DVD - hdmi. I adjusted the vivid/contrast in the nvidia 91.37 drivers still the vividness is not there. In fact the graphics looks smear and some times refresh is not that fast. I dont think my graphics card is the culprit, since I am using 128 bit Nvidia 6200 MSI AGP. Surfing internet and text document screen is nice. In fact my wife use it to surf net if my mom finish with Astro.

I have bought the HDMI (F) to DVI (M) convertor for my next experiment.


QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 1 2007, 04:44 PM)
The difference sometimes not visible to our naked eye but HDMI will be useful as it carried lossless audio signals too to be decoded by future amplifiers. They're invented for a purpose.
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I can notice the difference betwen HDMI and component cable, in the antialiasing effects and image sharpness. HDMI beats componet hands down.

good point. somebody did the HDMI - DVI - HDMI and thot that audio is gone. wrong, audio still transmit through DVI.



QUOTE(tong1774 @ Mar 1 2007, 06:54 PM)
the reason i didnt choose srt for my last purchase is that:

1) Crt connection with PC, which is kind of hassle and most CRT didnt come with HDMI, DVI or even VGA.

2) Reflection compare to LCD, same problem with plasma.

3) Huge! Can not be wall mount.

4) Flickering issue which cause eye strain.

Although there are some advantage on CRt compare to plasma and LCD, unless i can find a good CRT with either HDMI, DVI or VGA. Otherwise i will stay away from CRT. Slimfit from Samsung do came with the above connection, but the PQ is so so.
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CRT screen is so small, to enjoy best view, children tend to sit near. I just dunwan the kids to wear specs.

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post Mar 2 2007, 09:34 AM

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Many thanks to sunauto and tong1774!

Toshiba eh? I will take a look at that one. biggrin.gif

But Toshiba aside, which LCD is value for money? IMHO, the LG which cost RM3k now with 5 years warranty gives the best value. From what I can see (I do not have the chance to do DETAILED cross comparison), the LG is ok laaa...

Hmm...this is very mind boggling. Decision would be faster if I am no spending my hard earned cash. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gsuave @ Mar 2 2007, 09:34 AM)
Many thanks to sunauto and tong1774!

Toshiba eh? I will take a look at that one. biggrin.gif

But Toshiba aside, which LCD is value for money? IMHO, the LG which cost RM3k now with 5 years warranty gives the best value. From what I can see (I do not have the chance to do DETAILED cross comparison), the LG is ok laaa...

Hmm...this is very mind boggling. Decision would be faster if I am no spending my hard earned cash. biggrin.gif
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The cheapest for "Branded" LCD will be LG and Toshiba in overall, excepy some china brand. But Toshiba get my vote for beig more realible and better PQ. But its your decision biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 1 2007, 07:48 PM)
However on my 37" LG LCD, when I use RGB, i cant get vivid color display like my DVD - hdmi. I adjusted the vivid/contrast in the nvidia 91.37 drivers still the vividness is not there. In fact the graphics looks smear and some times refresh is not that fast. I dont think my graphics card is the culprit, since I am using 128 bit Nvidia 6200 MSI AGP.
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my video looks quite good on my 64 bit 6200A AGP.
Chua, what player do you use to playback video?? r you using overlay on media player?? go for VMR9 as it's much better then overlay. overlay tends to have smearing colour. anyway, the default video renderer in MCE is VMR9.
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Between LG and Toshiba 32" LCD TV, functionality wise, not much of difference, though LG has Picture In Picture function (Toshiba has 5 color adjustment, LG only 3 color). Contrast level, LG can not perform as good as Toshiba, this is for sure. If u have budget for few hundred bucks more, go for Toshiba -> u will be very happy, rather than later come back and say, wish I have few hundred bucks more. This is exactly what I am experiencing, I am stuck with budget and (I cant stand the L-shop and go for LG)

I think many has given opinion on this comparison between LG and Toshiba plus sharp, jvc, hitachi. Basically the view given is quite consistent that LG, Toshiba are in their league in terms of value for money. If budget permits, the next animal is Philips, JVC, Panasonic. Then the beast i think is Sharp PX series, Samsung R series and Sony V series, Hitachie.

Note : I am no alamarklor, but I am quite fuzzy when it comes to Vision to those details.


QUOTE(ryansia @ Mar 2 2007, 05:45 PM)
my video looks quite good on my 64 bit 6200A AGP.
Chua, what player do you use to playback video?? r you using overlay on media player?? go for VMR9 as it's much better then overlay. overlay tends to have smearing colour. anyway, the default video renderer in MCE is VMR9.
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I am using k-lite codec with the FFDSHOW, classic media player. I will try the VMR9 again (I tried previously, not successful, it appears my connection is not giving me enuf "rich" color for that vividness)

Hi Ryan,

I was thinking if u can lead to create the LG LCD TV Special interest group. We have Edifier, etc..

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Feb 22 2007, 07:40 PM)
Just got myself the sony 76H. Got it less than the RM 599 (the discount enuf to buy a Taiwan component cable)
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Thinking of buying this player too, but earlier Sony has this reputation of unable to read disc. How is this unit serving you? Any problem playing pasar malam DVDs?
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Nope, not a problem. Sony is using precision drive 3 mechanism, whatever rojak discs also can play. Yeah, no kidding. Thumbs up for them. You won't be disappointed.

QUOTE(hmwong @ Mar 2 2007, 10:45 PM)
Thinking of buying this player too, but earlier Sony has this reputation of unable to read disc. How is this unit serving you? Any problem playing pasar malam DVDs?
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