Home Theatre Best HDMI DVD Player, Have you Found it Yet?
Home Theatre Best HDMI DVD Player, Have you Found it Yet?
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Mar 2 2007, 11:35 PM
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It's either Toshiba 66 or Samsung R7 for good LCDs below RM3800. Of course, Toshiba 68 is coming, the price is probably RM5000 to RM6000 as it accepts 1080P video signals and comes with two HDMI inputs, 100HZ flicker free engine, blah, blah, blah ....... yeah 6ms too.
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Mar 2 2007, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 2 2007, 11:35 PM) It's either Toshiba 66 or Samsung R7 for good LCDs below RM3800. Of course, Toshiba 68 is coming, the price is probably RM5000 to RM6000 as it accepts 1080P video signals and comes with two HDMI inputs, 100HZ flicker free engine, blah, blah, blah ....... yeah 6ms too. LCDs do not flicker... 100Hz is more akeen to less smearing effect of fast moving highly contrast object against background |
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Mar 3 2007, 01:18 AM
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I think the smearing effect is towards the refresh rate, the 100Hz technology is derived from CRT technology and Toshiba's 68 is the first LCD with this technology, the reviews from CNET and What Hi-Fi UK seems to favour this model very well. It should stake up well with other LCD brands available here. This time, the refresh rate is down to 6 ms. Sharp LCD models have 6 ms too. I believe one day, they will achieve the 2 ms refresh rates like some high end pc LCD monitors in the market.
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Mar 3 2007, 01:55 AM
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is there a 1080p 32" lcd TV? does it make a difference to play high end dvd movies compared to normal 1080i panel at a viewing distance of 8' ? |
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Mar 3 2007, 06:11 AM
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 3 2007, 01:18 AM) I think the smearing effect is towards the refresh rate, the 100Hz technology is derived from CRT technology and Toshiba's 68 is the first LCD with this technology, the reviews from CNET and What Hi-Fi UK seems to favour this model very well. It should stake up well with other LCD brands available here. This time, the refresh rate is down to 6 ms. Sharp LCD models have 6 ms too. I believe one day, they will achieve the 2 ms refresh rates like some high end pc LCD monitors in the market. LCD TVs with 100Hz or 120Hz still receives a maximum of 60Hz (1080p)signals. The TV is the one that generates the 100Hz/120Hz.. Pixels refesh rate is a direct correlation with the frequency.. There is no sudden hike in lcd speed.. The 120Hz hype is just an LCD able to achieve 8 ms ..full black to full white to back to full black or on average 4ms GTG.. just a mild increase in pixel speed. 2ms speed are currently prevalent on low end TN 6-bit panels monitors. They achieve the speed but in effect has 4x less shades (per pixel) capability of 8bit panels. That said.. look forward for 10bit panels (4x more shades than 8bit/pixel) coming this year which may come at 8 or 6ms.. or overdrived to 4ms (GTG) to claim the 120Hz hype. This post has been edited by BeastX: Mar 3 2007, 11:59 AM |
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Mar 3 2007, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 3 2007, 01:55 AM) is there a 1080p 32" lcd TV? does it make a difference to play high end dvd movies compared to normal 1080i panel at a viewing distance of 8' ? Aint in the mart yet. Maybe there is. From China or Taiwan. But, i doubt its PQ will be better than 720p LCD TV from Japan |
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Mar 4 2007, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 2 2007, 10:53 PM) Nope, not a problem. Sony is using precision drive 3 mechanism, whatever rojak discs also can play. Yeah, no kidding. Thumbs up for them. You won't be disappointed. Thks, mate. Definitely will get it together with the LCD ..... after I decided on which brand...(still undecisive between Tosbiba Regza 66E, JVC SX6 or the Sony Bravia V ....but favouring the Regza after reading your posting in the other thread) |
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Mar 4 2007, 11:05 PM
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Well, it depends on your budget, Bravia V has the highest contrast and brightness but some people find it too straining to the eyes but not for me, I just toned down the factory settings a little and it worked just fine. As for Toshiba Regza, it's a good buy at RM3700, not sure whether you could get it cheaper in your place, this is the price selling in Penang after nego-ing with the shop. It's value for money because the Regza is up to the market and What Hi-Fi UK magazine gave it a very good review. I supposed the reviewers do agree with my point of view that the Regza is value for money.
Sony 76H looks great on Bravia and Regza, my uncle is also using 76H on his Regza so that's what I can tell you honestly. QUOTE(hmwong @ Mar 4 2007, 05:07 PM) |
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Mar 4 2007, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(hmwong @ Mar 4 2007, 05:07 PM) Thks, mate. Definitely will get it together with the LCD ..... after I decided on which brand...(still undecisive between Tosbiba Regza 66E, JVC SX6 or the Sony Bravia V ....but favouring the Regza after reading your posting in the other thread) Toshiba is much cheaper than JVC and Sony, I think. If no budget issue, pls go for Sharp PX series. You will enjoy it to the fullest. I personnaly like the Sharp 42" PX 1080i vs Samsung 1080P, the difference is not much, viewed at 10' distance but the price is RM 8200 vs > RM 10,000. That is how promising the Sharp PX series. Of course, the sharp px is more expensive than Sony Bravia V series (rm 7399). If corrected to 42", both sony and sharp are about the same price.I have used the hdmi cable for 76H to LCD 37" LG tv. the picture quality is btter than the component cable, quite noticebly. Try watching those cartoon movies ice age, monster inc. , sharp. next project, is the audio setup. heard yamaha surround is not bad. |
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Mar 5 2007, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 2 2007, 07:05 PM) I am using k-lite codec with the FFDSHOW, classic media player. I will try the VMR9 again (I tried previously, not successful, it appears my connection is not giving me enuf "rich" color for that vividness) Hi Ryan, I was thinking if u can lead to create the LG LCD TV Special interest group. We have Edifier, etc.. 3 users doesn't seem to be ideal to form a group yet. we will see how it goes and poison more ppl to buy LG.... |
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Mar 5 2007, 05:56 PM
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Finding Nemo is the best movie to test the 76H. It the HDTV panel displays a dull and lifeless picture, avoid buying it at all cost because on good panels, Finding Nemo will come out very vivid, striking and colourful.
QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 4 2007, 11:30 PM) Toshiba is much cheaper than JVC and Sony, I think. If no budget issue, pls go for Sharp PX series. You will enjoy it to the fullest. I personnaly like the Sharp 42" PX 1080i vs Samsung 1080P, the difference is not much, viewed at 10' distance but the price is RM 8200 vs > RM 10,000. That is how promising the Sharp PX series. Of course, the sharp px is more expensive than Sony Bravia V series (rm 7399). If corrected to 42", both sony and sharp are about the same price. I have used the hdmi cable for 76H to LCD 37" LG tv. the picture quality is btter than the component cable, quite noticebly. Try watching those cartoon movies ice age, monster inc. , sharp. next project, is the audio setup. heard yamaha surround is not bad. |
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Mar 6 2007, 01:08 PM
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I tried using windows VMR 9, VMR 9 overlay, OMR 9 renderless all giving me about the same results. I am still having the ghost effects in video mode. I suspect may be the graphic card is old or the RGB vga cable is no good.
I hope that All-IT dvi-hdmi cable is back soon, so that i can buy can try again. rgds. |
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Mar 7 2007, 10:14 PM
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Mar 8 2007, 01:42 AM
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Mar 18 2007, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 8 2007, 01:42 AM) The price is still the same, it depends on how much they wanna give you discount but for Sony products, the discount is normally less than 10%. Sad but true. I agreed with Sunauto... just bought the NS76 and compare to my existing Samsung HD860, Sony is better in term of picture and build quality.. it is like comparing Japanese and korean car... of course Sony cost about RM200 more... |
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Mar 18 2007, 08:42 PM
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a little bit off topic
i am in berlin now. the LG is sold at dirt cheap. they have 32LC 3R for sale at a fraction of price. damn malaysia 2R is obsolete model. LG is dumping obsolete model in asia. beware i also saw Sony S200 model unit at Sony centre near haupbanhoff for sell at dirt cheap price loh. looking for DVI to HDMI cables but it is so expansive. i notice the Sony 76H. they are selling for 75 Euro. This post has been edited by ccschua: Mar 18 2007, 08:44 PM |
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Mar 19 2007, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(bond @ Mar 18 2007, 01:55 AM) I agreed with Sunauto... just bought the NS76 and compare to my existing Samsung HD860, Sony is better in term of picture and build quality.. it is like comparing Japanese and korean car... of course Sony cost about RM200 more... Well, yeah, the extra RM200 is worth it for the PQ and the best of all, it is not choosy of the media used, warped discs played fine on my N76H.QUOTE(ccschua @ Mar 18 2007, 08:42 PM) a little bit off topic Well, you can't make a comparison like that because not everything is expensive in Malaysia. For example, Pioneer's 989 is only RM2900 here but in the UK, it is selling at 800 GBP and that's close to RM5000 if you convert the selling price to RM. Certain Hi-Fi stuff are selling cheaper in Malaysia and even for camcorders and digicams, many Mat Salleh and Saudi people are buying them here even they're not from duty free shops.i am in berlin now. the LG is sold at dirt cheap. they have 32LC 3R for sale at a fraction of price. damn malaysia 2R is obsolete model. LG is dumping obsolete model in asia. beware i also saw Sony S200 model unit at Sony centre near haupbanhoff for sell at dirt cheap price loh. looking for DVI to HDMI cables but it is so expansive. i notice the Sony 76H. they are selling for 75 Euro. Of course, the 76H is selling dirt cheap even in Australia but too bad, RM580 is the best price here but for the amount paid, I'm pretty satisfied with this player. No complaints at all. |
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Mar 20 2007, 03:48 AM
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Sunauto,
can you tell me if the 37" Toshiba Regza LCD TV has clean Astro TV image or not. I was looking at the display at a shop (not viewing Astro) and the salesman recommended me Samsung instead of Toshiba because he claims Toshiba TV image has picture noise or pixel patches or something like that. Didn't quite understand exactly what he meant. Your feedback is very much appreciated. |
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Mar 20 2007, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 19 2007, 02:37 PM) Well, yeah, the extra RM200 is worth it for the PQ and the best of all, it is not choosy of the media used, warped discs played fine on my N76H. Well.. not really, I have few DIVX movies can't play in NS76 but no problem with HD860.... on the other hand, there are other disc play well in NS76 but not HD860. The other problem with my HD860 is that it freeze randomly when play audio cd with HDMI connected and the tv is switch off. Added on March 20, 2007, 8:13 am QUOTE(Ngto @ Mar 20 2007, 03:48 AM) Sunauto, Given a choice, i will go with Tos instead of Sam... at least the Tos give a better picture scale with 4:3 signal.can you tell me if the 37" Toshiba Regza LCD TV has clean Astro TV image or not. I was looking at the display at a shop (not viewing Astro) and the salesman recommended me Samsung instead of Toshiba because he claims Toshiba TV image has picture noise or pixel patches or something like that. Didn't quite understand exactly what he meant. Your feedback is very much appreciated. This post has been edited by bond: Mar 20 2007, 08:13 AM |
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Mar 20 2007, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(bond @ Mar 20 2007, 08:08 AM) Well.. not really, I have few DIVX movies can't play in NS76 but no problem with HD860.... on the other hand, there are other disc play well in NS76 but not HD860. Well, I don't play DIVX movies on my NS76 because all I need is a decent dvd player with upscalling capabilites for my dvd collection. For DIVX movies, they usually play best on Cap Ayam dvd players from China costing below RM99. Just my 2 cents.The other problem with my HD860 is that it freeze randomly when play audio cd with HDMI connected and the tv is switch off. Added on March 20, 2007, 8:13 am Given a choice, i will go with Tos instead of Sam... at least the Tos give a better picture scale with 4:3 signal. The Toshiba Regza has a better contrast and brightness than Samsung, there's no picture noise or whatsoever problems as mentioned by the salesman. FYI, they're stucked with many old stocks and most shops are more keen to push their old stocks to you, I even heard some salesmen telling me that Samsung R71 is better than Sony Bravia V series and even dared to claim that they're the same, just that Sony put his label there. |
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