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 Battle of the +/- rm7k TVs, + Discussion on Sharp UE630X

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AVFAN
post Mar 29 2016, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(qkumba @ Mar 29 2016, 08:45 PM)
What panel and is it full array for the 630x? And does it have local dimming? Cant seem to find these info in sharp website. What is the flagship model for sharp 4k tv? Or 630x is the highest spec already?
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630x is the best for 4K... but there is 8k now:

http://www.sharp-world.com/aquos/en/4k4ctech/


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post Mar 29 2016, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(ericlai @ Mar 29 2016, 10:01 PM)
haha, we can never follow the latest technology unless we're very rich =D

I just went to this webiste below to download 4k samples to play on my tv. The file format is .encm. The tv and my pc also cannot play the file. Did you guys came across this issue before?

http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?cat=demouhd
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on PC... 1080p, 1440p OK. 2160p cannot...

should play on 4k android box players.

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post Mar 30 2016, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(ericlai @ Mar 29 2016, 10:01 PM)
haha, we can never follow the latest technology unless we're very rich =D

I just went to this webiste below to download 4k samples to play on my tv. The file format is .encm. The tv and my pc also cannot play the file. Did you guys came across this issue before?

http://demo-uhd3d.com/categorie.php?cat=demouhd
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Mar 30 2016, 09:27 AM)
PC can play 2160p, but I suppose it depends on your graphic card/integrated graphic chip. I think the reason the file will not play is due to the uncommon file type.
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of course. most std 1080p pc's like mine cannot do 2160p. can do max 1440p... i tried it.

that is for the mp4 files from that site, not .encm.



i also tried playing one .encm and one mp4 file on my android player.

.encm is an unrecognized format for both the native player and kodi player.

the mp4 files, can play, no problem.

but... those 4k mp4 files from the link are not very good either.

those videos are watered down, i think - the force awakens trailer does not come out better than the full bdmv i have.

for better 4k demo videos, better go get from torrents.

"timescapes" and "ses 4 k test transmission" are better ones, i tested them long time ago.




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post Mar 30 2016, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Mar 30 2016, 10:44 AM)
Pls pm your source for 4k bdmv. It's getting hard to find good quality files nowadays  smile.gif
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no... not 4k bdmv, i don't have. biggrin.gif

i meant 4k demo videos and normal bdmv's.



these titles are in 4k but only on discs, i believe.
http://www.blu-ray.com/4k/

they will probably be 100gb each or so.

will probably need to wait a while for all of that to come.
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post Apr 2 2016, 09:46 PM

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4k full movies are still very rare.

there is one i suggest u test on your player (whatever box u have) and the ue630x.

sword of destiny uhd (don't ask me where to get tongue.gif ) was first shown on netflix uhd.

i watched it in hd only then. the 4k file (30gb) is surely better.

the thing i want to highlight is it will only come out good, the way it should be, if your player has 2160p 24/30hz setting.

in addition, player should be either directly connected to the ue630x or to an AVR that has 4k pass through (not 4K upscaling).

if the 4k player is set to 1080p 50/60hz (to accomodate a non-4K avr), it may still play but there will be judders.

a non-4k player will not play the file at all.



the time will come when more videos in 4k become available. that will be the time to get a new gen AVR that has UHD4K pass through and DTS:X.

things move quickly - they keep upgrading, we keep spending money! biggrin.gif

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post Apr 3 2016, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(ericlai @ Apr 3 2016, 05:19 PM)
Planning to invest a display port converter to HDMI 2.0 (links below), then connect HDMI 2.0 to the tv. i have a pioneer AVR with 4k passthrough, but i guess it only allow 4k30p instead of 4k60p.

http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/products/...ve-adapter.html
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2160p 60hz... videos are rare, except maybe home made ones. for both player and avr, that's maybe 5 years out, i think.

but seriously, why would u need 2160p 60hz?

which pioneer avr u have that's 4k pass thru? how old, price?

i am planning to get one in the next year for 4k pass thru and dts:x.
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post Apr 3 2016, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(ericlai @ Apr 3 2016, 06:34 PM)
My pioneer avr is VSX - 523-K, bought it 2 years ago for RM2.6k.

If you plan to buy avr nex year, be sure to look for HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 support for future proofing.
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ok, thanks for info.

for sure, my next avr will be at least hdmi 2.0 and hdcp2.2. biggrin.gif

am considering onkyo 747 and coming 757.

will be ok for next 5 years, i think.
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post Apr 3 2016, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(ericlai @ Apr 3 2016, 07:26 PM)
Wow, both the specs of the avr is yummy =D hmmm, if the price is right, i might be poisoned and get one next year too XD.

But in 2014, i heard onkyo avr got HDMI board and power supply problem, hope they have rectified all of these issues.
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yes, there are such probems with some models.

my friend had problems with 607 and 818, swears he will never buy onkyo again. biggrin.gif

my own 706 has been very good, so i will stick to 7xx series.

i think the problems come about due to overheating.

i use it moderately, in aircond room, zero problems for 6 years.

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post Apr 8 2016, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Apr 8 2016, 01:39 PM)
can I know how important is support for HDR. if those tv without HDMI 2.2 means no HDR support ?
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HDR is very very new, a 2016 thing.

UHD 4K TV's is not the latest.

latest is UHD PREMIUM, a class of UHD 4K TV that has HDR. biggrin.gif

http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/hdr...ision-explained
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post Apr 10 2016, 04:41 PM

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There is still little 4K material. HDR will take even longer.


Meanwhile, use the ue630x to the full... install as many apps as you can!

I now have a nice Kodi superboxbuild and a few more apps in it. No need another box, just the tv will give movies, tv shows, news, sports, English, Chinese, Singapore , Indonesia, Thai tv... Etc. etc. quite a lot in HD and loads pretty fast. now that is a smart tv!!

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post Apr 11 2016, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(ericlai @ Apr 11 2016, 04:29 PM)
Yeap, agree with AVFAN, very little 4k materials, maybe in 2017 only have slight HDR content floating around the internet =D

I just tried to connect my PC to the TV's HDMI straight instead of my AVR and then AVR to TV. I noticed that the ARC only supports stereo format from the sound properties under control panel. Even if i set the ARC audio to bitstream.

But when i try to watch movies with Kodi with 5.1 DTS audio format, my AVR able to receive the DTS signal with 5.1 sound. Sadly, it couldnt pass through DTS-MA and DTS-HD audio format.
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i've been hunting for 4k material and got little.

they are not coming out as fast as i expected.

even this list is miserable!
http://www.blu-ray.com/4k/

however, the tv we have is still a good choice due to its master eng pro upscaling and the good android inside.

as for audio, dd/dts is already not bad. biggrin.gif

i remember a few years ago, some tv's go silent with dts videos as they refused to pay for the license.

dtshdma/ddtruehd... will become a standard arc feature in tv's when dd atmos and dts:x become popular, i.e. tv's will always be one step behind standalone players and boxes when it comes to audio.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Apr 11 2016, 11:38 PM)
Consolation... Come...  console.gif  console.gif  tongue.gif
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really, it will be some time before more 4k material comes out.

https://torrentfreak.com/first-netflix-4k-c...t-sites-150828/
according to above, a 4k tv episode is about 18gb (movie about 160gb), which comes out to be about 7MBps or about 54mbps.
so, i wonder if we are really getting 4k even on netflix with 25-30mbps speed! biggrin.gif


still, i am happy with the tv's upscaling and vibrant colors, esp for bdmv's.

been replacing part of old collection.

and talking about that, it is just a normal progress.... vhs->dvd->bluray/bdmv...->uhd4k...->hdr4k.

just another way to spend your money to pamper your eyes. laugh.gif
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post Apr 15 2016, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Apr 14 2016, 11:28 PM)
It has begun...  biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif
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i'll find a chance to see if these early hdr4k tv's produce better pq than uhd4k for a common 1080p file.

since there is practically no hdr and very few uhd files around! laugh.gif
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post Apr 15 2016, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(10071985 @ Apr 15 2016, 07:41 PM)
Is 58ue630x and 58 eu1m same?
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a repeat question.

check post #415.
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post Apr 15 2016, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(10071985 @ Apr 15 2016, 10:43 PM)
Thanks bro. Saw ur post too but from specs I don't see much difference
And I'm searching for 55ue630x but can't seems to find it,even in online stores such as 11street or lazada
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it's 58ue630x.

thread starter danny wants to sell his.
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post Apr 18 2016, 03:05 AM

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QUOTE(potionmaster1987 @ Apr 18 2016, 12:18 AM)
I just bought Sharp 65 UE630X. I am hoping I am making the right decision....
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think u r the first one here who bought that size.

you'll love the tv! biggrin.gif

a few people here bought 50 and 58.

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post Apr 18 2016, 06:42 PM

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my latest adventure on the ue630x...

installed, "tweaked", set easy access for... kodi skysports 1-5 in HD.

nice to watch premier league at the touch of a few buttons.

i'm not a big fan of PL but just preparing for Euro 2106 kickoff on 11 jun. tongue.gif
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post Apr 18 2016, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(ericlai @ Apr 18 2016, 06:46 PM)
This tv is kinda heavy, if you plan to mount this tv, make sure u buy the non-retractable tv mount.
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actually, it is not as heavy as i thought. about the same as my last smaller lcd sharp.

mounts fine on my existing wall panel and bracket.

and it is nice to find it is very cool, no heat detected.
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QUOTE(potionmaster1987 @ Apr 18 2016, 08:03 PM)
I have a lot of catching up to do. I dont know what is kodi, dont know how to set up network HDD with the TV and do not understand why ericlai want to use converter 2.0......seriously...i feel outdated.... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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what u bought is an android uhd 4k tv. it can do a number of things. besides handling 4k videos and upscaling anything lower, it can handle the latest 4k60hz videos - if the rest of the equipment incl cables, player are such - hence the hdmi converter issue.

also, the tv comes with a good android built in. if u hv never used an android (be it box or tablet or phone) before, this is yr chance to play with it. first, u need to set it up with yr wifi to get internet access. read the manual also - there is an electronic version u can get on the tv itself. if not, u can find the website and download it. if u have not installed the tv, get the installer to do all that when they arrive - they know how.


if u r starting from ground zero. i suggest u read a bit about android boxes:

androidbox
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3126605/+1620

kodi is a major app u can install in the android. if u set it up properly, u get a lot of goodies. but... this one, i must say, will take time, not easy for a new user. anyway, do read:

kodi
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3139601/+3920

kodi is just ONE app. the android in the tv can take many apps. it works the same as in an android box. the only diff is the buttons on the remote controls (note u r given 2 of them, one with a mouse function).

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post Apr 20 2016, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(potionmaster1987 @ Apr 20 2016, 05:37 PM)
I received my TV yesterday.The black level totally awesome. The pic quality superb but if i sit too close like 1m it may appear blur.. When i at 4m, the image very clear.

One funny thing is, the video from youtube seems more lively compare to the astro..

Perhaps anyone can explain. I also downloaded kodi but do know how to use it...maybe need to do some study...
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for such a size tv, u can't sit too close!

yes, everything comes out better, be it astro or hypptv, youtube or playback - the upscaling is good.

if u have a 4k media player, try these 2 in bluray/bdmv with 2160p 24hz settings: point break 2015 and the force awakens - awesome details, colors and vibrance.

kodi... this one... u need to spend time to understand and get to know how it works. i can copy and paste wholesale my build onto yr tv and u enjoy for a short time but... it needs maintenance. so, get started, here: biggrin.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3139601/+3940

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