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 Battle of the +/- rm7k TVs, + Discussion on Sharp UE630X

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post May 4 2016, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ May 4 2016, 03:59 PM)
That's true😊 now trying to change the dynamic mode...when playing movie in youtube I feel the brightness too low...
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Dynamic is usually too bright!

3 ways u can play..

.. eco off.. eco1.. eco2
.. std, movie, dynamic, etc.
.. each of them, adjust own detail preference

Have fun for 2 weeks. Then u will settle for something.
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post May 4 2016, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ May 4 2016, 02:58 PM)
5 Ghz usually has lesser coverage area compared to 2.4Ghz, but throughput is much better and it is rated for higher bandwidth.
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yes, i understand that 5ghz as a higher frequency is stronger than 2.4 but with higher losses, it's only good for short distances.

question is how short is short... 20, 30, 50, 100ft? at what point does it negate the use of 5ghz? depends on the router specs, i would think.

"throughput" - this is interesting, meaning it can "push" more bits and bytes per sec? if so, that will surely be good.

will need to read up and test at next opportunity.


QUOTE(DannyOP @ May 4 2016, 12:35 PM)
Actually I'm not sure why the 2.4Ghz channel can't stream smoothly while the 5Ghz channel can.
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something to do with...

.. operating frequency efficiency
.. router specs
.. tv networking specs

i suppose! biggrin.gif

will be good if you can test a 35-40gb bdmv m2ts video, see if the tv and router can take it. thanks.

my android box can take everything except this size of bdmv's when it comes to streaming wifi 2.4ghz from pc.

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post May 5 2016, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(jdgobio @ May 4 2016, 08:44 PM)
How far 5ghz can reach will depend on your router but I would think that 50ft is too far based on the test results I've seen online. 20 ft radius will be more common.
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only 20ft... not very useful then.

will read up and experiment a bit more.
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post May 7 2016, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(bond @ May 7 2016, 02:21 PM)
The 5ghz band signal coverage is less compare to 2.4 but transfer speed is much faster, i get around 50-60mbps with 2.4 while 160-170mbps with 5ghz AC mode from speedtest app.
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thanks, that's good to know.

meaning 5ghz should be able to handle bdmv's 1080p & 2160p if distance is <30 ft.
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post May 8 2016, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(dick1971 @ May 8 2016, 12:40 PM)
Hi .. Bought the tv few days ago.. Very happy with PQ and andriod system.. Still learning kodi....
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the kodi u get on the tv is as good as any kodi in any box.

if u get the right build, it works wonders.

yes, check up kodi thread, experiment - kodi takes quite some knowledge and trials to get it working well.
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post May 8 2016, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(susu_capbadak @ May 8 2016, 12:15 PM)
But when i used Kodi to play the 00001.m2ts file, the video is grainier than most 1-2 GB video i watched.  Is there any setting i should adjust?  hmm.gif  
edit posting in Kodi thread   icon_rolleyes.gif
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that movie was filmed in uhd4k (or higher), available in bluray 4k.

the file u hv is a 1080p, maybe not ripped well.

yes, it does come out a "grainy", like some others that come out darker than usual.

i think it's because the tv upscales the 1080p. if u use a 1080p tv, it will not be the case.



i assume u are using kodi in the tv.

i am not sure if u can change the video output in kodi to lower, say 1080i or 720p.

if u r using a box like i do, can set the box output that way, the tv will upscale "less".

that way, it will be less grainy - i tried it, but observed that details are be lost.

i like it "grainy"! biggrin.gif i set my box to 2160p 24 or 30hz, the tv does whatever it can, picture is as good as it gets.

by the way, the movie is a visual dazzler - you want to see the color and details of the mountains, snow, water, forest.. besides the freckles and moustaches! laugh.gif

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post May 8 2016, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(susu_capbadak @ May 8 2016, 06:02 PM)
Yes, i played in tv using kodi.  When i tried a 4GB file The Happening, i was amazed at the incredible details of the freckles  biggrin.gif  as you said.  So i decided to download one of the largest movie file i could find but the result is not what i expected. will try to see if i can tweak the output to lower later...

add - it's also grainy when i played in PC.
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it's the file itself.

such bdmv's come in a variety of "quality" too.

i actually dislike some of them that come out too dark! biggrin.gif



if u know kodi, do make full use of it.

the tv android can take up to 9gb of your own stuff, so, plenty to work with.

e.g. those 4gb files u mentioned, u can actually get them direct on kodi-quasar on the tv.

assuming u hv 10mbps or higher.

and u get live sports incl bpl in hd - just the tv, no need any box. tongue.gif

do visit the kodi thread!

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post May 9 2016, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(HL2712 @ May 8 2016, 10:14 PM)
have been thinking whether to get 56 inches 330 or 50 inches 630, was thinking both are 4K tv from sharp and the picture quality should differ that much.

but i went to SenHeng today to compare side to side, the 630 is really better. well not very tech savvy, but 630x does look much better.
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did u buy it?

there are surely differences, no biz will sell 2 same things for diff price! tongue.gif

the differences were discussed in this thread.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3887746/+40#bottom

besides picture quality, one will also decide on how many hdmi input, arc audio quality, what android inside, etc.


for someone who does not want the android and only need 2 hdmi, the ue630x may not be a better buy.

i need 4 hdmi. and i love the android inside! biggrin.gif






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post May 9 2016, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(HL2712 @ May 9 2016, 12:34 AM)
I havent bought it yet as will only need it when i move to new place in the next few months.

I think for me, save for better picture quality, I would like to have the android to fully utilize the tv smile.gif
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Frankly, I do not know if I can use the android inside well if not for the fact that I have used android boxes for >2 years now.


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post May 9 2016, 06:16 PM

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Guys, if u haven't tried enough, check out YouTube in the tv.

Search for UHD or 4K...

Lots of incredibly stunning videos.

You can only get these in 2160p with the tv; boxes won't do, like Netflix 4K.



After watching a few more, I have to think about buying google stock. laugh.gif
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post May 9 2016, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(HL2712 @ May 9 2016, 07:39 PM)
Haha why Google stock? Can't recall, does google own YouTube? Haha.
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google owns youtube.

google parent co. is ALPHABET, $725 a share. biggrin.gif


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post May 23 2016, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(qwan1101 @ May 23 2016, 12:33 PM)
Anyone can suggest what is the best player (app) to watch large size videos (HD, Upscale 4K, 4K)? can enable subtitle also.. using the 630x tv... planning to watch upscale 4k avatar..
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U mean u have a 4K video on HDD, how to play?

U can use the usb ports of the tv, play with media function. Note the USB ports don't read certain brands or models of HDD too well.

U can use kodi app to play the HDD.

The default tv player and Kodi are the best.

Vlc, Es, mx players u can get on playstore do not support 4K, subs can be problematic.

Or, can get a standalone box player that will deliver 4K. This is the best way to play all files, all formats, easy navigation, get HD audio, etc.

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post May 24 2016, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(perky @ May 23 2016, 09:21 PM)
Do u guys know how to change the dns settings on the 630x?
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can do that in device network next to settings.
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post May 24 2016, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(perky @ May 24 2016, 07:59 PM)
Can't seem to find the dns settings in there
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hv u change dns in other device(s) before?

if not, i worry u might lose yr current connection!
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post May 25 2016, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(perky @ May 25 2016, 09:58 AM)
Yes on one of my Samsung TV to get netflix USA. Planning to get USA Netflix on my sharp tv too
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i do not know samsung except that it works on tizen, not androidtv found in sharp, sony and philips.

so, it will be a little different.

if u know androids, it works exactly the same, be it tv, box, tablet or phone.

to change dns, u just go to network settings, switch from dhcp to static, and key in yr new ip/dns.

ue630x will give netflix uhd, but what dns u use to get usa content, i wouldn't know.
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post May 31 2016, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(m a v 3 r i c k @ May 30 2016, 09:22 PM)
Hi guys,
Kinda need urgent help. I'm using 630x. Previously was using Unifi with HyppTV but just switched to Maxis Home BB.
How can I watch 8TV, NTV7 and TV3?
Tried downloading Tonton from Play Store in 630x but couldn't find it. Can't even find Google Chrome in that Play Store.
Hope sifu here can help me solve this as my parents love to watch the hokkien dramas on 8TV.

Many thanks in advance.
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not a good move if parents want those channels and u gave up the hyppbox.


the tv has a good android inside but is not going to give what hypptv or astro can give.

options:

.. learn what androids do, learn kodi... can get tv3, 7, 9 (not 8 to my knowledge but some experts probably can get) but no guarantee they remain.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3943906
.. get help from some one, use hypp everywhere on the tv (again, need to know how androids work)
.. get astro iptv

the tv will show only apps it selects and approved by sharp. but u can open up the android to install yr own apps in there, incl chrome browser.
read the manual, check out all the functions incl settings.

the android inside is a good one.

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post May 31 2016, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(m a v 3 r i c k @ May 31 2016, 09:21 AM)
Somehow I found a tutorial on Youtube but I only managed to get TV1, TV2, TV3, TVi(?) and others but not 8TV and NTV7.
Reason why I switched to Maxis is because Unifi at my home is getting slower (prolly TM is messing with it since I didn't want their 30mbps upgrade).
A little regret now...haha. Is there any ways we can install a phone version of Google Play into the 630x? I installed the Play Store apk but it says this version is not compatible with the TV. Gahhh...!!
Just finding an alternative faster internet connection sad.gif
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The youtube there is very good.
Just search "uhd", u find dozens of nice videos in 4K - u need to set to 2160p at youtube; assuming u have good speed.
Search for skynews - this UK news station comes on live in HD.
Not many live TV stations on Youtube, I find.

The playstore there is customized to allow only certain apps and versions.

Any apk will work on the TV android after u allowed access for "user installed apps" in settings.

Chrome browser... just google on pc, get the apk and install it with es file explorer (this one, u can get at TV playstore).

Some knowledge about androids is required to do the above and more.



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post Jun 4 2016, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(ati radeon @ Jun 4 2016, 09:49 PM)
anyone has opinion or used philips 55" PUT6800 model?

considering sharp 58" 630x or this philips.

plus side for philips is more hdmi and connection ports and cheaper
downside is 3" smaller
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this one?
http://www.mea.philips.com/c-p/55PUT6800_5.../specifications

never checked this tv, but from the specs...

4 hdmi, 3 usb = same as sharp ue630x.

android os = same.

but it says android 8gb memory expandable with usb - this may be useful for heavy android apps user.



my suggestion would be to trust yr eyes and wallet. the 2 together will give u the answer.

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post Jun 4 2016, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(ati radeon @ Jun 4 2016, 10:23 PM)
yes, this.

my gut feeling is no wrong to choose sharp 630x, forgoing others like LG,sony and samsung.

but my dad likes the philips model put8509 and also this put6800.
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one thing u will like if u have broadband 30mbps or higher.

whether sharp or sony or philips - their 4k tv's come with google android os, currently all of them are lollipop 5.1.

this feature is valuable:

.. netflix uhd 4k.
.. youtube with 4k 2160p videos.
.. can install your own apps - the most powerful one is KODI:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3943906
with KODI, it opens up a whole new dimension - int'l news, sports, movies, etc. in hd too.
if new to kodi, do get to it if u buy an android os tv. no need for any box!

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QUOTE(dc89 @ Jun 6 2016, 11:21 PM)
click on device > then click on device again...from there you can set the audio output options (take me quite awhile to discover this  sweat.gif )
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not sure what u mean... what "device"?

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