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 Battle of the +/- rm7k TVs, + Discussion on Sharp UE630X

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post Feb 2 2016, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 1 2016, 10:46 PM)
it's a good 4k tv.

i posted my comments about netflix and iflix on this tv - both work very well.

check the threads if interested.
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Any idea if it is edge lit or back lit?
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post Feb 2 2016, 02:26 PM

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thats good, that partly explains for the better picture quality. Begger's can't be choosers I guess, coz next step up with capability of perfect uniform colours will be the LG 65" Oled at RM20k.

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post Feb 2 2016, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 2 2016, 11:38 AM)
been playing with the audio functions of sharp ue630x, a summary:

.. all 4 hdmi's used as inputs, hdmi1 not used as arc.
.. optical output set to bitstream.
.. optical output connected to avr as input.
.. netflix - can get dd5.1, good (with hd/4k video).
.. direct usb tv playback give good results - for both dts and dd.
.. same files playback with standalone android/media player audio pass thru- only dd is produced on avr, good; dts downgraded to lpcm, poor.

it is strange why direct tv usb playback can produce dts at optical but not when using hdmi input from another player.
anyone has an explanation?
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When you connect your source file via USB, what programme do you use to view the video?
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post Feb 2 2016, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 2 2016, 04:23 PM)
1. when source is from the tv like netflix, it can send out dd5.1 from optical out.

2. when source is usb direct on tv, it can send out both dd5.1 and dts5.1 from optical out.

3. when source is hdmi input from ext device, it can send out only dd5.1 and not dts from optical out.

i am curious why 3 cannot achieve dts while 2 can for the same files playback.

i guess it is either due to hdmi input like u said or dts licensing is not complete for optical output while dd is.
so... if above is true, it means most tv's having external hdmi input can't do optical out dts to avr?

i am curious about this becos this is the first time i m playing with optical out from tv... never had the need before! biggrin.gif
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If you have AVR and external device, you can connect the external device direct to the AVR, you don't need to connect to TV.
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post Feb 3 2016, 10:50 AM

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Btw what video format can the UE630X read? I tried BDISO 40+GB file it could not detect.
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post Feb 3 2016, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 3 2016, 11:52 AM)
it can read all common formats incl m2ts.

the reader/player is slow and sensitive - need to switch on/off tv, try a couple of times to get it.

as with other players, cannot expect the tv to read it like a bd player will read bluray disc with full menu, etc.

zipped iso i have not tried, but it will read the unzipped m2ts files.

and u need to find the right main m2ts file!

with optical output, dd truehd->dd, dts hdma->dts.

the video quality is good, as good as other standalone players.

but navigation for audio tracks, subs is clumsy.
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Aiyoo.. that's the sad part no wonder it could not detect some files. Thanks for your suggestion.
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post Feb 4 2016, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Feb 4 2016, 10:02 PM)
Yeah, more spending is required. Though, with tech this days, its like once released for sale on the market, its already obsolete. So my main concern is purchase satisfaction. Read about the Sony TVs... That has to go up on the wall, can't risk it tipping over..  biggrin.gif
Oh yeah, forgot to include sounds systems into the setup... Overkill.... A/V Receiver capable of DTS:X and Dolby Atmos 9.1.2 speakers config....  drool.gif  drool.gif ... Starting from scratch, top of the range everything can easily surpass RM100K. There's a thread up on avsforums dedicated to "casual" discussions about ultra high-end HT systems costing minimum $20K.. Wow! Much cash... Guess some folks really don't mess around with sound quality huh..
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Home theatre is cheap compared to hifi though, where a top model power cable alone can cost rm150k.

Being a cheap Charlie even when I use affordable setup my small 58" 4k TV, focus audio home theatre speakers, jtr captivator subwoofer and anthem avr all add in only cost half of my hifi amp.

Some forumers here are lucky enough to own landed bungalows with underground home theatre rooms, that is actually the most expensive part of the setup. Home theatre systems are fairly affordable in that sense.

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post Feb 8 2016, 02:15 AM

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For those using Plex, can you stream dts ma files smoothly? I get stuttering sound when I try playing those files from my notebook in another room on the Sharp UE630X. Using dual band router from Tplink. When I play smaller files it runs smoothly. What's the likely culprit?
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Feb 8 2016, 08:44 AM)
This is most probably due to bitrate. The wifi throughput you're getting is not enough. You need to improve your local network by using devices with more bandwidth or go for a wired connection with gigabit ethernet or av1200 powerline.

Maybe test out other big files and see how it goes first. Does the tv have ac wifi or only n? What about your notebook and your router? Which band are you using 2.4 or 5.0?

If only the sound is stuttering and the video is smooth, then try to downmix the audio to dts only. HD audio has high bitrate and needs a better network.
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At the moment I'm using 2.4.. Will try out 5.0, thanks for your suggestions.

* found the problem. I used an old 10/100 switch to add more ports and plugged in the ethernet cable from the tv to the switch, restricting it's bandwidth. Looks like that needs to be upgraded. I unplugged the cable and connected it direct to the router and voila no more stuttering.

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 8 2016, 12:41 PM)
what audio did you get with plex streaming wifi dtshdma files?

u are doing optical out from tv to avr, right?
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I still can get 5.1 but not dts ma, mainly due to limitation of the optical cable.

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post Feb 9 2016, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 8 2016, 12:50 PM)
for sharp ue630x users...

been trying all kinds pf picture settings.

i finally settle for this:

.. turn on eco1.
.. standard - use default reset.
.. movie - use default reset.

tv android apps (incc netflix, iflix), android box, acryan, bd player, - use movie.

hypptv - use standard (this one is ough becos diff channels come out diff video brightness, colors, sharpness).

since a standard or movie setting applies to all hdmi inputs and can't do individual variations, so it's either std or movie. there are also game, pc, dynamic settings which are irrelevant to me.

diff eyes see diff things.... please share yr settings, i can try them! biggrin.gif
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Where to find eco 1 setting?
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post Feb 10 2016, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 10 2016, 01:33 AM)
under settings, control.
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When I click tv setup there are 3 categories
1) picture
2) audio
3) general

But no control under these 3 settings. Could it be your options are different?
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post Feb 11 2016, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 10 2016, 11:18 AM)
no, not under tv setup.

on the tv launcher, go to the bottom.

settings, then control.

the same page where u access apps - the self installed apps.
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Found it thanks, it was already on eco 1. Will try a few calibration methods to see if I can get a better picture.

The only picture mode I can't take is Dynamic, the colours are too vibrant for long viewing that it hurts my eyes.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Feb 9 2016, 08:05 AM)
IMO, I believe it's best to get a HT/AVR with ARC, ample HDMI inputs and at least 1 HDMI output. At the very minimum, HD audio support up to the popular Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA. Maybe even Dolby Atmos. Cuz I believe (wouldn't blame them) TV manufacturers worry more about picture quality than HD audio options.
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I already have an avr which support DTS MA and truehd, the limiting factor is the TV doesn't support those formats, and I haven't seen one that does. Best way to get those support now is add an Android box which does.
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post Feb 11 2016, 10:39 AM

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Looking forward to see what's in store for 2016. Especially cost improvements to Oled and introduction of HDR.

I hope the Sharp UE630X will keep me good company in the meantime. Will try to adjust my sitting position also in the meantime. Currently sitting 15 feet away which makes the TV look small. It's not easy to position furniture in the living area which will also affect the view of the scenery.

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post Feb 22 2016, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 21 2016, 04:12 PM)
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after 8 weeks using this sharp lc50ue630x uhd 4k tv, let me summarize my experience with it:

.. good video quality; 1080p, bdmv, bluray, 4k videos - excellent.
.. good upscaling for 720p, 1080i videos
.. vibrant colors.
.. the android within is good - capable of doing any 2/16gb lollipop 5.1 can do.
.. the android within can take a good no. of apps, performance is no lower than any android box.
.. works very well with netflix hd/uhd4k even on wifi.
.. works well with iflix (iflix is all sd but when upscaled, very acceptable).
.. hypptv 1080i channels like bbc earth, travel & living, natgeopeople come out sharp and bright.
.. usb playback can handle all common formats incl mkv, m2ts.
.. toslink digital output is dts/dd capable.
.. a surprisingly cool tv, does not even get warm.
not so good:

.. somehow, i find the dark scenes a little too dark, the bright scenes a bit too bright. don't know if this is a characteristic of all 4k tv's..?
.. all hmdi's video setting is restricted to a choice of std, movie, pc, dynamic or dynamic fixed. u can change the variables in each set but that will apply to all hdmi's. this is not as good as previous models where u can change the variables in each setting for every hdmi input and save as user1, user2, etc.
.. all inputs and outputs incl hdmi, usb, optical, lan are at the back of tv, not side - access difficult for wall mounted cases.
overall, i am very happy with the tv. wink.gif
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Overall I'm happy with the picture quality of the 630x too, I feel the only weakness is in bright areas, because the brightness level seems too low or it maybe the panel can't produce high brightness. This seems to be the characteristic of 4k panels. However the black levels are good and if the room is not too glaring, the picture quality is excellent.



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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Feb 22 2016, 01:14 AM)
this is interesting.

i find the brightness (preset settings) at times too bright that my eyes sometimes feel uncomfortable.

then again, it could be due last years of a much less bright tv or my eyes have gotten sensitive, i.e. aged! laugh.gif
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I'm using movie mode though, if I use Dynamic my eyes will hurt.
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QUOTE(zlaugh @ Feb 28 2016, 03:18 AM)
can share the shop name?
surveying for tv now too, considering 58'' ue630x, sharp lc60le90x and philips 65'' 6909. Any recommendation? I just checked on Aeon big mid valley yesterday, 58'' ue630x is selling at whopping RM7099. Such a huge difference compare to your price.
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I may be letting go my Sharp 630x at rm4k+, any suitors for this few weeks old tv feel free to pm me.
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QUOTE(gme @ Mar 3 2016, 04:41 AM)
how about price for 65 ua330x?anybody know?
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Last I checked rm7k++

630x rm8k+

Picture quality of 630x is better.
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I wonder how the 8k models perform. Any shops have them on demo?

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