ok, good to know.

i think there is a lag.

just wait a few days, it will either auto update or prompt u to update firmware which will give the new youtube.

i also think it may be dependent on broadband speed - if it detects >20mbps, should be fine, auto update.

i think this tv has some sharp-netflix monitoring, can't "cheat". i tried.

kodi - for me, this is the best thing about the tv - with 9gb available, i get a lot of hd stuff from kodi.

iflix, no problem.

youtube 4k content... ya, whenever i get bored, i go there to refresh my eyes.

5 feet... i won't go anything >30in.

i find my 50in good for 8-10ft.

12-13ft, 58in will be good.

too near to too large a screen, and unlikely u have all hd/4k videos 100%, your eyes will find it awful and even hurtful.

u surely need to do that if wall mounted. there will be a charge.

remember to ask the guy to set up the android function, internet access and pair the 2nd remote control with the tv.

after that, u read the e-manual, play with it for a week or two to tweak whatever u wish.

can u provide link to the bolded part?



pic quality, startup time... i think they are not android driven but by the prime tv engine of the tv maker.

usb playback - this is driven by the video&audio codecs installed accordingly to their licensing.

the android comes in only when u select the android apps.

I do not know enough of chipset specs...

Only that the android in the tv is generally faster and smoother than the quad box I have.

As for startup, the time is not excessively long, not longer than a normal hdtv.



Tv native media player.... Yes, poor, we discussed in some detail earlier in this thread. It does not work on some brands of HDD. But there is one good point - using arc or digital output, it can output dts and dd whereas some other tv's can't. HDD that do not work with native player, use Kodi or es file explorer... Will work but can't get dts or dd, only lpcm.

I personally do not use tv for playback as my box has far better audio codecs, can do dtshdma, ddtruehd and ddatmos.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jul 6 2016, 01:42 PM

i think the same chipset is used on similar range of tv's for sharp, sony and philips - for google android lollipop.

they likely adopted the same standard/specs to comply with google and app providers like netflix.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jul 6 2016, 06:00 PM

first, u must decide what is impt and not impt to you, middle ground will not help u decide.
do u, will u play mostly SD or HD?
do u see playing 2160p, 10bit in the next year or so?
if sticking to mostly SD or 720 stuff like astro and hypptv, can save the money, buy fullHD.
if mostly 1080p, bluray, may go higher, 4kTV will amaze u with the upscaling.
for that, do not stinge - go for the better ones. if not, don't buy it.
but take note the better 4ktv/HDR tv's typically come with a good androidtv - if not using it, it will be a waste.

dannyop is quite right. 8ft, 10ft, 15ft... how it comes out is about your own eyes. many have said they cannot see any diff between 720p and bluray videos. so, only way is you compare with yr own eyes.

the other thing is there is almost zero chance someone here bought a 4k tv AND a fullHD tv recently to be able to comment on the diff. and tech changes very quickly; every year, significant changes become reality. the only way is to read the comments on specific models in diff threads, then judge with your own eyes in the shop.

by STB, do you mean hypptv or astro or android box?

hypptv or astro boxes are proprietory devices, dedicated to what they offer.


when i say "a good 4ktv comes with androidtv", i mean it has a built in smart function for online streaming.

premium 4k sony, sharp and philips come with Google's Android TV which is the common system found in standalone android boxes.

other brands come with their own ops sys/apps; no idea if low cost 4ktv's come with anything.

i cannot comment on other systems since i have only used Google AndroidTV.

the android in the tv of this thread (sharp ue630x) is a pretty good one.

i am now using it more than the box that i have - faster, easier, save power.

it can do some things the box cannot do, e.g. uhd4k netflix.

but it can't do some things the box can, e.g. hd audio and some apps blocked by the tv's security feature.

so, it's good to have both.

but in general, i would say for common use, the android in the tv is as good as if not better than a typical box.

however, u will need to know the basics of handling apps, just like u need for a box.

if new to androidtv/boxes, do visit this busy thread:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3126605/+2260


back to the video quality issue, i was going through my hundreds of old DVDs.

decided to junk a hundred more of them - too old, poor video, no need for them since i now have better versions.

but in the process, i found some of these old DVDs come out quite good on a 4K tv, better than iflix or some Kodi streams.

the explanation is probably some DVDs were made well, plus good upscaling by the bluray player and TV.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jul 24 2016, 11:53 AM

i noticed a message about update available.

but when i read further saying it will take "317 min", i did not proceed.



some bug in the update?

maybe wait a few days, google to see if any news.

meanwhile, do report here if u find anything new.

just updated, took about 1 hr.

version 20100_20160704.

all is good.

kodi, iflix, youtube, other pps, all good.

netflix... my subscription is not active, so got to the page "restart membership".

u should have come and read this thread earlier!

u can install almost any android app.

but some issues:

.. some apps are consider potentially harmful, op sys security feature will not allow them to be installed. so far, i have come across only two.

.. many apps are built and designed for touch screen, not mouse or keys. so, it will be clumsy to use them.

.. some will only work in vertical position, so u either tilt yr head or the tv by 90 deg.

try anything!

problem may be simply due to current high traffic volume.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jul 31 2016, 03:32 PM

googlecats wasn't smooth before update?

i only tried yesterday with my new tablet, works fine.

The estimated time is very conservative. Wont take more than 1 hr.

Go to settings, about, system update, manual update, network update.

If new available, it will begin.

If none, it will say its up to date.

need a reset.

just reset at settings or off/on power.

using remote on/off = standby, not power off.

unplug power = power off.

u can reset under settings, explore the options, impt.


if u still can't get it, then something may have messed up the wifi connection, need to redo at settings -dynamic/static ip, password, dns, etc.

I mean the wifi settings on the tv messed up.

If u are using unique dns, possible it is dead, need change.

Also, i think it is better to leave tv on standby when unused.

This mode allows it to detect, prepare for system updates when available.

Yes, this is true.

Need to reset sometimes for googlecast.

Not a big issue for me since i do very little casting.