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post Jan 4 2016, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Jan 4 2016, 09:29 PM)
Sad thing is not many EM funds on fsm. cry.gif
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Asia ex Japan is also emerging market mah... Just that lacking a few economies like Brazil.
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post Jan 4 2016, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 4 2016, 09:42 PM)
You got that right! smile.gif

But do we really want the market to trend down lower just so that we top up? What about our existing gains? Haha.
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post Jan 4 2016, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 4 2016, 09:40 PM)
Actually it's good timing in conjunction with FSM convo this weekend if the rout drags longer!
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But RM also drop sad.gif

QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 4 2016, 09:42 PM)
You got that right! smile.gif

But do we really want the market to trend down lower just so that we top up? What about our existing gains? Haha.
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In for the long run ma.... Haha
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post Jan 4 2016, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 4 2016, 09:40 PM)
Actually it's good timing in conjunction with FSM convo this weekend if the rout drags longer!
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 4 2016, 09:42 PM)
You got that right! smile.gif

But do we really want the market to trend down lower just so that we top up? What about our existing gains? Haha.
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Actually comes to think of it, not really worth it... unless u just started to invest in the fund(s) la or top up large amount...

If top up.. how many percentage of the total amount of the fund u currently have already??!!
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post Jan 4 2016, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 4 2016, 09:45 PM)
Actually comes to think of it, not really worth it... unless u just started to invest in the fund(s) la or top up large amount...

If top up.. how many percentage of the total amount of the fund u currently have already??!!
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Clap clap clap!

That what I was thinking. But people can say, can keep topping up. That's the bunch of people that practice average down, not average up.

I'm one of them
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post Jan 4 2016, 10:30 PM

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Why not just sell off everything by tomorrow? That's the practice of stop loss right!
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US drop teruk... Gabra biawak now
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post Jan 4 2016, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 4 2016, 10:45 PM)
US drop teruk...  Gabra biawak now
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all because of the Saudi - Iran tensions cry.gif
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actually how do u guys lock your profit? once achieve target % then sell / switch to money market and wait for market bottom again?

or ride it all the way until new theme come?

bcoz if u dump and come back 10 yrs later there's possibility the amt same as that time u dump 10 yrs back right? like what happened in 2008. years of profit just burned.

hope all taikors kindly share for bilis like me.
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QUOTE(ableze_joepardy @ Jan 4 2016, 11:03 PM)
actually how do u guys lock your profit? once achieve target % then sell / switch to money market and wait for market bottom again?

or ride it all the way until new theme come?

bcoz if u dump and come back 10 yrs later there's possibility the amt same as that time u dump 10 yrs back right? like what happened in 2008. years of profit just burned.

hope all taikors kindly share for bilis like me.
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hmm.gif I am not sure about other taikors...BUT this very BIG Taikor that I know of, did it this way....

"I took profit in some areas like ......, and adjusted others".

read this, to know more about how he took profits...
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...SJBlog_20131227
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QUOTE(ableze_joepardy @ Jan 4 2016, 11:03 PM)
actually how do u guys lock your profit? once achieve target % then sell / switch to money market and wait for market bottom again?

or ride it all the way until new theme come?

bcoz if u dump and come back 10 yrs later there's possibility the amt same as that time u dump 10 yrs back right? like what happened in 2008. years of profit just burned.

hope all taikors kindly share for bilis like me.
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You may want to dump some amount at some point to preserve your ammo. Of course you don't wait 10 years to come back. Some would suggest holding on to it and average down but you'll ran out of ammo half way through unless you are heavy on fixed income as reserve ammo. In 2008, my PM UTC advised me to switch all my profits to MM after my profit was down by 20%. Switched back to equity in 2009 for the ride up. It is really up to you on what course of action to take due to several schools of though on this subject.

As for me, I regularly take profits as you never know when a black swan event will come. Downside of doing this is I will not fully benefit from compounding effect.
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post Jan 5 2016, 12:02 AM

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DJIA tumble 421 or 2.42% now
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post Jan 5 2016, 12:39 AM

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the first trading day started with heavy sell off
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post Jan 5 2016, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jan 4 2016, 11:36 PM)
You may want to dump some amount at some point to preserve your ammo. Of course you don't wait 10 years to come back. Some would suggest holding on to it and average down but you'll ran out of ammo half way through unless you are heavy on fixed income as reserve ammo. In 2008, my PM UTC advised me to switch all my profits to MM after my profit was down by 20%. Switched back to equity in 2009 for the ride up. It is really up to you on what course of action to take due to several schools of though on this subject.

As for me, I regularly take profits as you never know when a black swan event will come. Downside of doing this is I will not fully benefit from compounding effect.
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How regularly do u mean? By a period of time? Or by a percentage of profit?

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post Jan 5 2016, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jan 5 2016, 12:02 AM)
DJIA tumble 421 or 2.42% now
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Loiks like i need to hold back my rebalancing action..
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post Jan 5 2016, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jan 4 2016, 11:36 PM)
You may want to dump some amount at some point to preserve your ammo. Of course you don't wait 10 years to come back. Some would suggest holding on to it and average down but you'll ran out of ammo half way through unless you are heavy on fixed income as reserve ammo. In 2008, my PM UTC advised me to switch all my profits to MM after my profit was down by 20%. Switched back to equity in 2009 for the ride up. It is really up to you on what course of action to take due to several schools of though on this subject.

As for me, I regularly take profits as you never know when a black swan event will come. Downside of doing this is I will not fully benefit from compounding effect.
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The question is if we take profit, where to invest next?

Let's say we sell equity fund A and buy equity fund B. When bear market comes, both may down equally.

Of course if we anticipate bear market we can switch to money market fund. But did you, or your UTC, anticipate financial storm in 2008?
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jan 4 2016, 09:43 PM)
Asia ex Japan is also emerging market mah... Just that lacking a few economies like Brazil.
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Russia leh...South Africa leh...Emerging Europe leh...

PIGS leh (Portugal Ireland Greece Spain)... tongue.gif
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post Jan 5 2016, 08:52 AM

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Dont dare to see the market lor today!
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post Jan 5 2016, 09:18 AM

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Hehe.. lock profit first for my old Smart Treasure fund! Almost 80++% profit after less than 5 years holding..

Just lock 38% profit only (as this is the gain for this fund in 2015), rest just keep it inside...
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celaka....just top up a bit on 30th Dec and yesterday stock market drop sad.gif
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