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post Dec 22 2015, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Dec 22 2015, 02:39 PM)
Ooo.......ask the master of credit points and you shall be given. Convert your INTER-fund switch into INTRA-fund switch.

Affin Hwang Equity Fund = Affin Hwang Bond Fund = Kenanga Bond = Kenanga Equity Fund.
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1. FSM MANA ADA CARRY Affin Hwang PUNYA BOND FUND???
2. FSM that stupid? blink.gif When u switch from A equity fund to A bond fund, yeah u earn credit points. But when u switch from A bond fund to B bond fund, yeah no SC, but credit u earn from A can be used for B meh? rclxub.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Dec 22 2015, 02:39 PM)
Ooo.......ask the master of credit points and you shall be given. Convert your INTER-fund switch into INTRA-fund switch.

Affin Hwang Equity Fund = Affin Hwang Bond Fund = Kenanga Bond = Kenanga Equity Fund.
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Affin Hwang Equity Fund => Affin Hwang Bond Fund ...you get credit points

Affin Hwang Bond Fund => Kenanga Bond ....0% sc

Kenanga Bond => Kenanga Equity Fund...need to pay SC?

This post has been edited by T231H: Dec 22 2015, 02:44 PM
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post Dec 22 2015, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 02:42 PM)
1. FSM MANA ADA CARRY Affin Hwang PUNYA BOND FUND???
2. FSM that stupid? blink.gif When u switch from A equity fund to A bond fund, yeah u earn credit points. But when u switch from A bond fund to B bond fund, yeah no SC, but credit u earn from A can be used for B meh? rclxub.gif
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Bro, I have done this a few hundred times. I have now close to 200,000 unutilised credit points.

FSM has the Affin Hwang Bond Fund. doh.gif

Do not challenge the master of credit points. biggrin.gif


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post Dec 22 2015, 02:49 PM

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Topped up ponzi 2.0 for 4 consecutive days. icon_idea.gif

May the force be with ponzi 2! flex.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 22 2015, 02:43 PM)
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Affin Hwang Equity Fund => Affin Hwang Bond Fund ...you get credit points

Affin Hwang Bond Fund =>  Kenanga Bond ....0% sc

Kenanga Bond => Kenanga Equity Fund...need to pay SC?
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No need to pay SC. You are automatically using the credit points which you obtained in the first place when you switched from the Affin Hwang Equity Fund into the Affin Hwang Bond Fund.
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post Dec 22 2015, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Dec 22 2015, 02:48 PM)
Bro, I have done this a few hundred times. I have now close to 200,000 unutilised credit points.

FSM has the Affin Hwang Bond Fund.  doh.gif

Do not challenge the master of credit points.  biggrin.gif
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I find it hard to resist...

nia singh ah laugh.gif

Oh ya hor, Affin and Hwang dah merge, from former Hwang fund can switch to former Affin fund

I try hmm.gif
Kalau aku kena SC, aku slap engkau mad.gif

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post Dec 22 2015, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Dec 22 2015, 02:37 PM)
Hi, new to the thread !

I read back the last 5-10 pages and your guys postings are very interesting with all the special terminology.

I find it very interesting that you guys trade in and out of funds like people trade shares.
There is no loyalty i guess...when the investment environment atmosphere changes,...it has to adapt.....

What are you guys strategies like ? Asset allocation ?
on the out side is asset allocation like...FI:EQ,
then region/country allocation
for asset allocation by sectors in the country/region...have to leave it to the FM

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that is just me.... biggrin.gif
may not be suitable or liked by others..
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 02:50 PM)
I find it hard to resist...

nia singh ah laugh.gif

Oh ya hor, Affin and Hwang dah merge, from former Hwang fund can switch to former Affin fund
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You should just try it once...it is hard to resist...like vape? tongue.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Dec 22 2015, 02:52 PM)
You should just try it once...it is hard to resist...like vape?  tongue.gif
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but hor

If I do that...my excel worksheet suddenly got 2 new funds (Affin Bond and Kenanga Bond) doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 02:50 PM)
I find it hard to resist...

Kalau aku kena SC, aku slap engkau mad.gif
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BEFORE you press the button for the final transaction, it will show whether you are charged SC or not. If the screen shows that you are being charged SC, then just ABANDON the transaction lor. biggrin.gif

But the whole INTER-SWITCH to INTRA FUND transaction using my method will take at least 10 days. Unless you are in rush. In this case, once you have performed the Affin Equity Fund to Affin Bond Fund switch, just use your CMF to buy the Kenanga Bond Fund for switching into Kenanga Equity Fund. Don't wait to switch the Affin Bond Fund into Kenanga Bond.

After that, in a few days time, just sell back your Affin Bond Fund into CMF.

P/S: If you are transacting RM10K and above, you can save at least a few hundred RM.


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post Dec 22 2015, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 18 2015, 09:35 PM)
I AM TOTALLY LOST. What the hell is wrong with Aberdeen Islamic World??? shakehead.gif
I have a very simple theory, but I'm not sure if you'd agree.

The shariah compliance list is very short. The generally prohibited sectors include

1. Alcohol
2. Casinos
3. Restaurants
4. Broadcasting
5. Cable / Satellite
6. Entertainment
7. Tobacco
8. Conventional banking
9. Insurance
10. Real estate

So the only major areas left are O&G, plantations, pharma, FMCG. From the malaysian perspective, this is very apparent as 2014-2015 has turned out to be severely disappointing for all local shariah compliant funds.

Most of these funds are invested in the O&G and plantation/commodity sectors, which have tanked in value. In the preceding 3-4 years, it was magnificent as an over-weighted O&G sector was soaring.

On a grander scale, this is what we call concentration risk. If you're right, you're a star, if you're wrong you burn.

With that being said, its quite unfair to be expecting a single fund to be performing when all the others seem to be.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 02:54 PM)
but hor

If I do that...my excel worksheet suddenly got 2 new funds (Affin Bond and Kenanga Bond) doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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Apa excel sheet? No point talking to a layman like me about how your IRR or XIRR will be affected. biggrin.gif


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post Dec 22 2015, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Dec 22 2015, 02:58 PM)
BEFORE you press the button for the final transaction, it will show whether you are charged SC or not. If the screen shows that you are being charged SC, then just ABANDON the transaction lor.  biggrin.gif

But the whole INTER-SWITCH to INTRA FUND transaction using my method will take at least 10 days. Unless you are in rush. In this case, once you have performed the Affin Equity Fund to Affin Bond Fund switch, just use your CMF to buy the Kenanga Bond Fund for switching into Kenanga Equity Fund. Don't wait to switch the Affin Bond Fund into Kenanga Bond.

After that, in a few days time, just sell back your Affin Bond Fund into CMF.

P/S:  If you are transacting RM10K and above, you can save at least a few hundred RM.
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kau ni...

I think in real life u must be a real kedekut miser kiamsiap guy, kira sampai rumput pun mati laugh.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 02:24 PM)

Aiyo, just switch when u see Singapore and HK index kaboom, cos Ponzi 1.0 heavy on those 2 markets. Wait for KLCI rally to 1,700? U slowly wait tongue.gif
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Thanks for the tip.... you are right.... doesn't look like it's happening ler. Luckily KGF still going strong, else my employer PRS also kaboom liao
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post Dec 22 2015, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Dec 22 2015, 02:58 PM)
I have a very simple theory, but I'm not sure if you'd agree.

The shariah compliance list is very short. The generally prohibited sectors include

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So the only major areas left are O&G, plantations, pharma, FMCG. From the malaysian perspective, this is very apparent as 2014-2015 has turned out to be severely disappointing for all local shariah compliant funds.

Most of these funds are invested in the O&G and plantation/commodity sectors, which have tanked in value. In the preceding 3-4 years, it was magnificent as an over-weighted O&G sector was soaring.

On a grander scale, this is what we call concentration risk. If you're right, you're a star, if you're wrong you burn.

With that being said, its quite unfair to be expecting a single fund to be performing when all the others seem to be.
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hmm.gif good analysis and insights....but hor....there are some very impressive syariah funds too when compared with Aberdeen

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post Dec 22 2015, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 21 2015, 11:38 AM)
KGF is not exactly large cap fund. Take a look at its stock holding and you will see what I mean.... In Lee Sook Yee  wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif I trust.

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KGF mandate allows it to invest anywhere in the entire KLSE. They are bottom up stock pickers, running what they call a bar-bell strategy. 50% growth stocks 50% dividend yield stocks.

If you like Ms. Lee's style you should look into KAPTRF and the new KATRF.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 03:06 PM)
kau ni...

I think in real life u must be a real kedekut miser kiamsiap guy, kira sampai rumput pun mati laugh.gif
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Salah, salah, salah. In real life, I am one of the most generous person you will ever know. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lukenn @ Dec 22 2015, 03:10 PM)
KGF mandate allows it to invest anywhere in the entire KLSE. They are bottom up stock pickers, running what they call a bar-bell strategy. 50% growth stocks 50% dividend yield stocks.

If you like Ms. Lee's style you should look into KAPTRF and the new KATRF.
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why u talk like a veteran hmm.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 02:35 PM)
OT a bit

How many of u dah dapat annual bonus? Reduced from last years'? hmm.gif
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Yup, sudah dapat.... a bit less than last year. But grateful at least got bonus la.... Told myself to set aside at least 50% as savings la. Will be even tougher next year liao
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Dec 22 2015, 02:50 PM)
No need to pay SC. You are automatically using the credit points which you obtained in the first place when you switched from the Affin Hwang Equity Fund into the Affin Hwang Bond Fund.
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just checked....
i had credit points earned...BUT not thru CIMB transactions....
i bought into Ponzi 2.0 last week using cash IBG...FSM charge me 1%sc.
i think credits points to be used must be earned from that FH to be eligible....
hmm.gif unless i am just kena conned another 1% doh.gif


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