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post Dec 22 2015, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Dec 22 2015, 06:23 PM)
OI!!! Some more pour salt on my wound!!!
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Basketballs! I tried to comfort u, then let u know u can get a 2nd TFV4 for 70 and this is the thanks i get???

If I really wanted to rub salt into yr wound, I would have told you that I too had paid higher for my first unit of TFV4...RM75!! And complained that I had overpaid by RM5!!! And I'd have posted this pic in the first place tongue.gif

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QUOTE(gnomemaster @ Dec 22 2015, 06:26 PM)
betul asking for lempah lettew whistling.gif  whistling.gif

but 70 is so cheapppppppp
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*in a Patrick Teoh-esque voice* NIAMAH!! tongue.gif...and yes...hella cheap. Hopefully it's the real thing.
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post Dec 22 2015, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(gnomemaster @ Dec 22 2015, 06:41 PM)
actually....i jz made payment for the same tfv4 5mins ago laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
we same boat brohahahahhhahaha
but i chose mini tho, normal too big for me d. cant handle that big D
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I want my two TFV4's to mate...and then produce many little TFV4 minis for me to play with biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(gnomemaster @ Dec 22 2015, 06:47 PM)
silver and black...interracial yo brows.gif  brows.gif

come we put more salts for that boy... drool.gif
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Aiyoo...not my style to put salt on anyone lah. Sometimes using text only in a forum can't convey one's meaning and intent as clearly as a face-to-face conversation.

I ordered another silver one lah...not being racially prejudiced tongue.gif ...just figured I don't want to chance the possibility of black paint flaking off like on an RX200 *ba-DUM tsssss* biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Dec 22 2015, 10:39 PM)
guys. my father recently changed from smoking to vaping, what would be a good gift for him on a budget. he has an ipv4s or something and he likes root beer taste
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What nekkidgramma means is: generally speaking there's 2 kinds of root beer. One is the traditional kind of root beer and the other is a very sweet and vanilla-ey kind of cream soda/ice cream float-ish flavor (eg A&W's sasparilla). You'll have to determine which type he likes first.
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Dec 22 2015, 11:10 PM)
this cotton is like the best ah? where to buy?
well he has 77flavour american float and dr brew rude beer.  he has 3 rude beer thought and 2 of them are emtpy dont know if that helps
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Vapefucious say, "Give man bottle of ejuice, he vape for one day. Give man DIY ejuice ingredients, he vape lots more for cheaper!"

There's a list of PG/VG/flavor etc suppliers on post#1 of this thread. Try writing in to them...am sure they could recommend you the necessary ingredients for a decent root beer.
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post Dec 23 2015, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(nekkidgramma @ Dec 22 2015, 11:38 PM)
laugh.gif the man is just starting to vape and you want to throw him into the rabbit hole? You're either mad or too generous, which in my POV is also labeled as mad. I think a new pair of socks is better as a gift than anything vape related. Too subjective depending on the person involved.
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post Dec 23 2015, 09:40 PM

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Something wrong somewhere biggrin.gif

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post Dec 27 2015, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Dec 27 2015, 07:19 PM)
I was intending to take off top cap together with the glass, while keeping the remaining juice on the glass. Sudde nly the glass came off. Jilaka. Whole thing hv to wash. Cant they do something like the kangertech mini?
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After the base is unscrewed, just maintain gentle steady pressure on the glass tank so that it won't separate from the topcap, until u put it down. It really isn't that hard. I just swapped RBAs...yes my juice is a coil killer...but oh so tastyyy biggrin.gif

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post Dec 27 2015, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Dec 27 2015, 11:08 PM)
That jibai glass came off in my hand when i try to unscrew stuff.

Also with the double coil, the coil seem to heat up quite slow. I get this super itchy throat for the first 5 or 6 puffs but it will be OK after that. Can it be the high resistant? My ohm reading is 0.9ohm.
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Now u know why Richard Ng called it an intermediate level tank. Hold the glass and topcap tighter when unscrewing. You'll get a feel for it soon enough.

Your "super itchy throat" could be due to several things: the juice itself irritates you till yr throat gets used to it, semi-dry hits because of poor wicking, or you have a mild allergy to some ingredient in the juice. Want faster ramp-up times, use nichrome instead of kanthal.
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QUOTE(hallucinogen @ Dec 27 2015, 11:43 PM)
Nichrome contains nickel? Must use TC?
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Yes it has some nickel as part of the alloy. It's not a TC wire, and is what many vapers used before kanthal became popular.Faster to heat up, and cool down, but it is not as forgiving as kanthal, and has a shorter life span. My coils (with dry burn cleaning) last about of 3 weeks compared to kanthal's 4-5 weeks. But i prefer the faster heating and (IMO) better flavor.
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post Dec 28 2015, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(hallucinogen @ Dec 28 2015, 12:02 AM)
Contain nickel but no need use TC? sweat.gif
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Don't confuse Ni60/Ni80 with Ni200(which is meant for TC).

QUOTE(hallucinogen @ Dec 28 2015, 12:04 AM)
I'm kinda interested with snow wolf mini.. But it does not support SS.. Too bad.. I'm interested to use SS instead of Ti, and definitely no for Ni i just want to avoid the risk
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What risk?
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post Dec 28 2015, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(hallucinogen @ Dec 28 2015, 02:37 AM)
nickel at high temp risk to health right.. well using TC suppose to keep the temperature at desired level, but only if the TC never mess up..  sweat.gif for those using expensive tc mod maybe save, but for cheapo like me, such as if using RX200 if temp goes haywire without our knowledge, die lo.. better off avoid it, for me la..

so Ni60/Ni80 no need temp control but they still contain nickel?  sweat.gif
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I had expected such a reply

You need to find out for yourself what temperatures your mod can actually produce, what temperatures the various alloys melt and vaporize at, and could you actually stand to vape at such temperatures in the first place biggrin.gif

Going along your line of logic, kanthal is also unsafe for it contains aluminium (oh yeah it can bind with your brain cells, dude), stainless steel also contains nickel and is unsafe. And while we're at it, why not throw in the dangers of diacetyl, acrolein and formaldehyde?

Are you a gibbering paranoid mess yet? Well don't be. My point is very simple: go find out for yourself the actual facts of the matters at hand, and you'll be better for it. smile.gif
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QUOTE(hallucinogen @ Dec 28 2015, 12:18 PM)
I am also expecting such reply.. Lol

First, it doesn't necessarily to be virtually melt for it to combust and reacts with the chemicals in the atmosphere.. Say, the coils suddenly have hard hotspot till it snaps, can you figure how much is the temperature at the point of hotspot before it snaps? At that moment, some chemical reaction could be happening.. I say, could..

Aluminium, yes most if not all metal compounds hazardous to health, but the aluminium u said could bind to brain or nerve cells upon direct exposure to the atomic compaund, which in this case is somwhat irrelevant as compared to the potentially carbon monoxide production from nickel due to catalyzed by combustion. Also, aluminium may contain nickel (depends on type) but at negligible percentage as far as carbon monoxide is concern.

And going along with your logic as well, if you know your juice contains diacetyl, acrolein and formaldehyde, wouldn't you want to steer to other type of juice that does not or contain minimal amount of that substances? I would. If you wouldn't, then your logic is self explanatory. sweat.gif

Am i a gibbering paranoid mess yet? No, its called "precautions" not paranoid.

My point is simple: i will minimize the hazard risk anyway i could. Its personal choice, anyway laugh.gif
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I say, could..
but do you have any proof of it? I think not. Wires don't snap by hotspots alone, inherent, or introduced weaknesses also contribute to it. When a wire snaps, what happens? No more vapor...so what's the problem?

By your logic, No wire is safe to use. I purposely brought up aluminium (in kanthal, which you did not choose mention in conjunction with it), and do you even know what temperature and heating period/conditions is needed in order for nickel to act as a catalyst and create CO? I think not.

And it's obvious you don't know how acrolein and formaldehyde come about, if you think it comes in a bottle of e juice biggrin.gif As for diacetyl, do u have proof that vaping causes intake in amounts large enough to cause any harm? I think not.

The very fact that you have to ask about nichrome and TC shows that you really need to know more. It is because of people like you who prefer to listen to scaremongering and sensationalist reporting, and erring too far on the side of caution/paranoia that will cause vaping to fail, and give more ammo to those who have vested interests to see it fail or be banned.

You can indeed claim "personal choice"/play safe and that is your right if you can't be bothered to find out the truth, the proper facts, and actual situation. But usage of such paranoia/ignorance to perpetuate scaremongering is irresponsible.
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post Dec 28 2015, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(hallucinogen @ Dec 28 2015, 01:03 PM)
again i need to remind here that i'm a nubissss LOL  biggrin.gif

but being a nubiss in vaping doesn't mean i am illiterate

you ask many questions above, i would ask you the same, do you know? no right.. but we all know there are potential risks.. POTENTIAL. and there are different level of risks available as option, i say i would go for the lowest risk, any harm for you?  sweat.gif

Dude, i do know how acrolein and formaldehyde come about, simple google can give anyone answer too.. how can you simply judge my knowledge by barely a sentence?

Yes i ask about nichrome and TC because i am unsure, nickel is one of the main compound in nichrome, so why we should not use TC on it

"usage of such paranoia/ignorance to perpetuate scaremongering is irresponsible" but don't you think that you spread opinion that there is no such risk is also irresponsible? and again, not paranoia, can't you digest the word precautions already?

well, lets not drag this further, the point is that any information could be useful to anyone depends on how they perceived it, so this is a forum, can't we freely express opinion? no need to bash me la.. ayam nubisss only, taikor...  tongue.gif
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I never gave the slightest implication that anything I advocated was 100% harm-free. I challenge you to show me where I said anything was risk-free! Even tho this is non-serious kopitiam, I do take care in my choice of words, and you should do the same. I operate on the simple premise of innocent till proven guilty. Unfortunately the ignorant seem to prefer "guilty till proven innocent".

And I did easily judge how u don't know about acrolein and formaldehyde, simply by your inference that it is present in e juices. If you really googled properly, you'd have know what it takes to cause the formation of such chemicals. The facts are out there if you really want to know.

I do know you are new to vaping. And earlier on, I did suggest that you educate yourself more about the things which concerned you, but instead you took the easy route preferring to fall back on the "personal choice" cop-out. If you want to expound on matters which you are not very familiar with, the logical thing to do is to perform due diligence first. And this is not bashing at all, in my book. You did not hear what I said to one holier-than-thou asswipe IRL who tried to tell me that e juice contained TAR and was worse than smoking; now THAT was a proper bashing. I don't like to do that, but when push comes to shove, I do what I have to do simply because vaping matters to me.
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QUOTE(hallucinogen @ Dec 28 2015, 01:39 PM)
Aiyo taikor, your talk like go around the roundabout, like spitting to the sky.. Prior u said this, the later u said like that instead.. I can google or browsing scientific journals to find facts to keep on replying to you, but I won't because it is pointless to show who is more clever here. You also got all you vaping knowledge via the internet and experience, so whats the point.. But i still stand that all my arguments are legit.. You just refuse to accept.. On the side note, when you are good in english and using bombastic words, it doesn't prove anything when its just spurs of word without fact.. Same same lah taikor.. laugh.gif sorry lah no feel feel okeh.. Cheers
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And that's what I asked you for...FACTS! You say your arguments are legit, but didn't and couldn't back it up conclusively. There is no reason for anyone to give any credence to your stances. As far as I'm concerned, you're just trying to perpetuate scare-mongering. You want to be paranoid/play safe, fine and good. I accept that easily. Just keep your fears and ignorance to yourself.
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QUOTE(leddmirage @ Dec 28 2015, 01:30 PM)
e-juice contains TAR? LOL dat's new! LOLOLOLOL
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I have organized informal seminars on smoking-cessation through vaping before. Heard all kinds of shite from smokers who were "forced" to attend by their peers/loved ones. Only those who were really wanting to quit didn't come up with such screwed-up statements.

QUOTE(gnomemaster @ Dec 28 2015, 01:36 PM)
#VapeOn bro laugh.gif

all in all, read up more on chemistry and physics to always educate ourselves. vape liquid recipes are very simple and not that complicated, same goes to finding out the physical properties of the heating element we using.

vaping is never safe to begin with (if compare to breathing that is), but knowing how much chemical our body can take and excrete is the key. as far as im concerned, the non metal compound that is exposed to body from vaping, pretty negligible IMO, jz the metal compound from heating element that needs to be watch out for.

peace bros, i still look forward for possible LYN vapers meet up some day laugh.gif
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Unfortunately our KKM had been taking the extremist stance towards vaping by distorting facts and telling outright lies. They saw that they weren't fooling enough people, and had to eventually resort to the Poisons Act in an attempt to get their own way. All the more reason for vapers to educate themselves. Right now the biggest danger to vapers is our own government. Who knows if pockets had been lined by Big Tobacco.

The situation for vapers in Malaysia is dire enough as it is. Of course we should vape safe, but there's really no need to be self-destructive and throw fuel to the fire from needless scare-mongering. We should not be our own worst enemy.
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QUOTE(hallucinogen @ Dec 28 2015, 02:31 PM)
now i could figure why my posts offended you..

sincerely sorry for that, never a slight thought on my head to go against vaping.. i am successfully on zero cigg for almost 2 months now, finally can really depends on vaping for the nic crave, which i'm very glad.. my new year resolution is to totally ditch cigg (this resolution has been repeated almost every year, this time i really wanna make it)..

but just being a newbie, i'm craving for information and looking for healthy discussion about the doubts and issues that i think of.. you and me probably on a different mindset (i would say) when we started replying to each other.. that is quite unfortunate.

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No worries I am not offended, nor is any apology necessary.

I congratulate you on being cig-free! As an ex-smoker myself (3-4 packs/day), I know it is not an easy addiction to break from. If you really want to and are determined enough, it is very possible to achieve your goal. And if you choose to, you can slowly wean yourself away from nic too...just take it in gentle gradual stages by making DIY juices with lessening nic content suitable to your comfort level.

And it is possible to DIY zero nic juices which have a hefty throat hit and tobacco taste/aroma to allay any remaining cravings, but only do this when you are totally ready for the last stage. As everyone is different, such a formulation is best done according to personal tastes and former smoking style. Speaking generally, the slow and gentle quitting curve brings about longer-lasting/permanent behavioral change.

However if you prefer to continue having some nicotine vaping in your life, I see nothing wrong with that at all. In fact nicotine (in the proper amounts of course) can actually benefit our cognitive abilities. For too long public perception of nicotine as an evil drug has persisted (mainly due to smoking), and that has to change.


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QUOTE(leddmirage @ Dec 28 2015, 03:57 PM)
have a tip for TFV4 users.. keep those o-rings from ur RBA/OCC coil heads.. dun throw them away.. they can be replacement o-ring for the just in case situation smile.gif i.e. o-ring on ur rba broke..
heck.. i hoard o-rings from OCC/rbas etc.. it's handy to have them around.
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That is a most excellent tip, and I did the same thing some time ago. There's also a "spare" o-ring in the mouthpiece upper section (some call it the drip-tip but who the heck drips thru that? biggrin.gif ) in case the chimney o-ring goes kaput.

Unfortunately the o-rings for the rba's and occ's (1mm thickness and 11mm outer diameter) simply didn't last more than a day or two for me.
You can get black o-rings from Fasttech.com (SKU 2066607) or scour local automotive/fuel pump repair/seal and bearing shops for a 1.5mm thick 11mm o-ring. It fits despite being 0.5mm thicker, just get the ones made from softer more-compressable nitrile rubber. They're tough and last long.
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QUOTE(leddmirage @ Dec 28 2015, 04:50 PM)
did you screw it on too tight? u will clip those flimsy o-rings.. lol.. try applying some e-juice to the o-ring before screw it on..  biggrin.gif
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Bro, this ain't my first rodeo tongue.gif

No they weren't on too tight and they were well-lubed with juice. The culprit was simply bad machining with many rough/sharp edges which I tried to sand down with wet-dry sandpaper of various grits. Couple that with crap o-ring material and the result was inevitable. Even rip trippers raged @ smok for the poor quality o-rings. However nitrile rubber o-rings work well and don't get torn up.

Despite those flaws, I love this atty, and have a 2nd TFV4 on the way...it's been stuck @ PPL Puchong since last Sat. Sighhh.
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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Dec 28 2015, 07:17 PM)
I dont know what to with my TFV4 anymore.

I cant bring the flavour out. I dont know if it is the tank's problem, the juice problem or my problem.

Juice I am using bell's brew breakfast crunch.

I built 0.37ohm double coil running various watage ranging from 38 to 50w. I just can't taste anything. I have tried wicking here and there. The cotton is snuggly fit. No leaking, no problem with chain vaping.

So I dont know if the juice is crappy or the tank is crappy or I am crappy. I vape till I overdose also still cant get anything right.

I really dunno what to do now. Who wants my TFV4?
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Before you flog off your TFV4, maybe you have vaper's tongue? Try another juice (maybe a fruity flavor) in a different tank if possible and see if u can taste it.

http://www.cyclopsvapor.com/blog/dealing-w...-vapers-tongue/

If u don't have vaper's tongue, it could be the juice (bad batch/needs more steeping time/pirated version).

Should you still want to sell your TFV4, you know I'll give it a good home...but u know how much I can buy them for (and I got my dual RBAs very cheap too), so I won't make an offer because it may offend you.





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