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post Dec 14 2015, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(gnomemaster @ Dec 14 2015, 03:30 PM)
Regulates = mods with chipset to help u regulate the wattage and voltage.

Unregulated = mech mods, with no chipset. It always fires at maximum output depending on ur battery level.

I remember jimbo or someone shared the safety chart for battery amp discharge at any given resistance. Basically, for safety, don go below 0.1ohm lol.

For regulated mods, feel free to play around the watts, u wont get fireball that easily, jz harsh dry hit that hurts like a bitch lol.
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i normally use 1.2ohm coil,.. but after few refill,.. it'll go up to 1.4 or sometimes 1.5,..

and i use the lowest wattage,.. 6 watt,. lesser smoke, but save fluid and battery,..
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post Dec 14 2015, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Hamsom @ Dec 14 2015, 04:22 PM)
Meaning if i go max 50 watt on my Kbox Mini with vtc5 0.5 ohm. No problem leh? Just hot only? If so i have been misinformed. DAMN!
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why use so low ohm ???.. if short circuit dangerous oh... higher ohm safer..
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QUOTE(gunners_my @ Dec 14 2015, 08:41 AM)
What's the latest status? I heard KKM fully banned vape with fine of RM10k and 2 years prison when I am away from malaysia for the past few days... is it true?
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https://www.google.com/search?q=KKM+vape&ie...+vape&tbs=qdr:w

QUOTE(Hamsom @ Dec 14 2015, 04:22 PM)
Meaning if i go max 50 watt on my Kbox Mini with vtc5 0.5 ohm. No problem leh? Just hot only? If so i have been misinformed. DAMN!
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Should be ok since Kbox Mini package come with OCC 0.5-0.6ohm i guess, just need to check recommended wattage for it smile.gif

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post Dec 14 2015, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Special Agent @ Dec 14 2015, 04:39 PM)
why use so low ohm ???.. if short circuit dangerous oh... higher ohm safer..
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0.5ohm is not that low by today's standard imo hmm.gif
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post Dec 14 2015, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinling @ Dec 14 2015, 03:20 PM)
quite curious on this as well. not even sure where the vaping community is heading towards
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i just read recent news with statement from KKM saying that 1 day vaping equal to 150 cig sticks, and vape produces more harmful chemical than normal cig.. basically KKM is saying better smoke than vaping.. BULLSHIT.. why there is more moron than normal people in this country doh.gif

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post Dec 14 2015, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(ThisIsAter @ Dec 14 2015, 04:42 PM)
0.5ohm is not that low by today's standard imo  hmm.gif
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it's a heating device,.. not electronics,..
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post Dec 14 2015, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Hamsom @ Dec 14 2015, 02:36 PM)
Thanks. Will look further into Series/Parallel.
The issue here is what is regulated mod? i tried define: regulated mod in google but the answer wasn't satisfactory.
So I am assuming my Kbox Mini or My friends Gang Mod could just fire away? As long as were on kanthal?

Part and reason i ask this is because i wonder how come his hit tastes better. And mine doesn't. The obvious reasoning would be that he fires at 40+ watts where I dare not to.

And regulated aside. Mech mods. How to be safe? I suppose you shouldn't coil lower than certain level?
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Mech Mod 101

Learn/Read on battery safety and ohms law before using mechs.
"V=IR"
ALWAYS know your battery rating and limits.
DONT use cheapo/china/rewrapped batteries and dont over discharge your batteries.
INVEST on a reliable and accurate ohm reader.
Protruding 510 pin is a MUST when using hybrid connections.

Only build according to your battery rating and always leave some headroom for safety.
Always calculate that you are using a fully charged battery at 4.2V to know the maximum amperage your build will draw.
A fully charged battery with a 0.2 build will be draw 21A, HE4, HG2 & 25R are only rated for 20A and therefore cannot be used for a build this low on a mech.

I only use 30A Sony VCT4 and VCT5 for mechs, VCT4 has less capacity at 2100mah but has a lower internal resistance and hits harder when compared to a VCT5 with 2600mah.

Please be safe when using a mech, i know some idiots that trust their lives on a efest battery with a 0.1 build. sad.gif

QUOTE(Hamsom @ Dec 14 2015, 04:22 PM)
Meaning if i go max 50 watt on my Kbox Mini with vtc5 0.5 ohm. No problem leh? Just hot only? If so i have been misinformed. DAMN!
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Even if you fire 50w with a 0.3 build on your kbox you'll be only drawing 13A the most.

QUOTE(Special Agent @ Dec 14 2015, 04:39 PM)
why use so low ohm ???.. if short circuit dangerous oh... higher ohm safer..
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How would it short circuit unless there is something physically done to it? A short at 0.3 or 1.2 is the same, now a battery that vents is a different story
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post Dec 14 2015, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(ThisIsAter @ Dec 14 2015, 05:42 PM)
0.5ohm is not that low by today's standard imo  hmm.gif
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yes.. with subohm everywhere... 0.5 is consider high... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Dec 14 2015, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(kuli2sahaja @ Dec 14 2015, 04:50 PM)
How would it short circuit unless there is something physically done to it? A short at 0.3 or 1.2 is the same, now a battery that vents is a different story
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low resistance are prone to current hike,.. high resistance wud burn on high current, hence good for safety measure..

QUOTE(gunners_my @ Dec 14 2015, 04:53 PM)
yes.. with subohm everywhere... 0.5 is consider high...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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ain't higher resistance give higher heat ??..
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post Dec 14 2015, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(Special Agent @ Dec 14 2015, 05:58 PM)
low resistance are prone to current hike,.. high resistance wud burn on high current, hence good for safety measure..
ain't higher resistance give higher heat ??..
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opposite, bro... higher resistance lower hear... lower resistance higher heat... so, somewhere near 0.5ohm is consider safe for regulated mod.. I coil around 0.4-0.6 all the time... just nice...

btw... how can u vape at 6watt? my side, minimum 15watt... maximum 30watt... 6watt not going to get u the flavour real taste for sure...
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QUOTE(kayent @ Dec 14 2015, 01:01 PM)
dude u have 3 stubs?  shocking.gif
i have a thundercloud v3 frm the same guys who made it (VPRS), am planning for a stubnose sometime in the future but need more feedback
hows the stubnose compared to others in its class (eg. deringger)
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If u knew how many snubbies I actually use daily, u'd think me mad...so let's leave it at 3 smile.gif

If you want to compare the snubnose to derringer, you'll have to ask yourself what u prefer:

3 posts with 4 holes or 3 posts with 3 holes?
Cyclops AFC with open flow and more positioning options, or cyclops AFC with 3 restrictive holes?

It all depends on what u r looking for. I've always preferred the snubbie because of the AFC. And if you had to rebuild a bunch of them daily, you'd appreciate the 4 holes for a less-fiddly time. But that's just me. IMO flavor quality between the two are almost the same. The difference in flavor is not as pronounced as say, between the Mad Hatter and Mad Hatter mini.

Tobeco clones are very cheep...not much of a risk to buy one of each model and compare for yourself.
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QUOTE(gunners_my @ Dec 14 2015, 05:09 PM)
opposite, bro... higher resistance lower hear... lower resistance higher heat... so, somewhere near 0.5ohm is consider safe for regulated mod.. I coil around 0.4-0.6 all the time... just nice...

btw... how can u vape at 6watt? my side, minimum 15watt... maximum 30watt... 6watt not going to get u the flavour real taste for sure...
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Last time I fired at 6w was on 2.2 ohm protank2, vamo mod. Those days are gone hehe

Need to know what device he's using.. Could b one with no step down. Or maybe 6w is still nice to some
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post Dec 14 2015, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(gunners_my @ Dec 14 2015, 05:09 PM)
opposite, bro... higher resistance lower hear... lower resistance higher heat... so, somewhere near 0.5ohm is consider safe for regulated mod.. I coil around 0.4-0.6 all the time... just nice...

btw... how can u vape at 6watt? my side, minimum 15watt... maximum 30watt... 6watt not going to get u the flavour real taste for sure...
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no... tarak resistance mana ada heat ??... thats basic of electricity..

my mod max 50 watt.. min 6 watt,.. mech mode on 1.2ohm only 8-10 watt..
at 15 watt the juice taste funny liao,.. 20 watt got burned cotton carbon smell liao...
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post Dec 14 2015, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(Roshie @ Dec 14 2015, 06:21 PM)
Last time I fired at 6w was on 2.2 ohm protank2, vamo mod. Those days are gone hehe

Need to know what device he's using.. Could b one with no step down. Or maybe 6w is still nice to some
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bro.. your so called "last time" must be at least 1 or 2 years ago... laugh.gif laugh.gif

6w if nice... the only reason is because the users haven't try anything higher... I started with 8w myself... ever since subohm generation, there's no way back to anything below 15watt...15watt also only for those very harsh liquids... most of the time, 20watt is the optimum one...
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QUOTE(Roshie @ Dec 14 2015, 05:21 PM)
Last time I fired at 6w was on 2.2 ohm protank2, vamo mod. Those days are gone hehe

Need to know what device he's using.. Could b one with no step down. Or maybe 6w is still nice to some
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high wattage form formaldehyde,.. bro

my mod is an ancient X-pro M65,...or maybe it's a cap palang one..

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post Dec 14 2015, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(hallucinogen @ Dec 14 2015, 04:42 PM)
i just read recent news with statement from KKM saying that 1 day vaping equal to 150 cig sticks, and vape produces more harmful chemical than normal cig.. basically KKM is saying better smoke than vaping.. BULLSHIT.. why there is more moron than normal people in this country  doh.gif
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There is one argument which I fully agree. We do know the short term effects are very little but we've yet to determine what long term side effects it would have. It's still in it's early stages to be able to determine what vape would cause to people's health.

QUOTE(Special Agent @ Dec 14 2015, 04:58 PM)
low resistance are prone to current hike,.. high resistance wud burn on high current, hence good for safety measure..
ain't higher resistance give higher heat ??..
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I had a friend who gave me a simple formula regarding resistance. Please bear in mind that I'm not responsible for what you'll think about once you read it:

"When you piak piak, if have high resistance won't be syiok right? But if low resistance, no more pain right? Which you think is better".

Please don't condemn me for my friend's simple explanation on resistance whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Special Agent @ Dec 14 2015, 06:25 PM)
no... tarak resistance mana ada heat ??... thats basic of electricity..

my mod max 50 watt.. min 6 watt,.. mech mode on 1.2ohm only 8-10 watt..
at 15 watt the juice taste funny liao,.. 20 watt got burned cotton carbon smell liao...
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bro.. the higher wattage achievable thanks to low resistance... for example, using 1.2ohm, u need around 4.5v to fire 20watt... but, if u are using 0.5ohm, it's only around 3.5V to achieve the same 20watt... if 20 watt burned out cotton with carbon smell.. those with 30-50 watt meletup already... anyway, I am talking from the perspective of regulated mod... not mech mod...
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QUOTE(kelvinling @ Dec 14 2015, 06:29 PM)

"When you piak piak, if have high resistance won't be syiok right? But if low resistance, no more pain right? Which you think is better".

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post Dec 14 2015, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Special Agent @ Dec 14 2015, 06:27 PM)
high wattage form formaldehyde,.. bro

my mod is an ancient X-pro M65,...or maybe it's a cap palang one..
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bro.. formaldehyde is not something confirm... even if it's confirm, two points... 1st, u shld fire above 5V in order to get that... 5V is equivalent to 40watt on my side... 2ndly, cigaratte has higher (roughly 100x) formaldehyde compares to vaping.. so, is formaldehyde a concern? hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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Formaldehyde is a known degradation product of propylene glycol that reacts with propylene glycol and glycerol during vaporization to produce hemiacetals. -

See more at: http://blog.mtbakervapor.com/the-truth-beh...h.4ti0zua5.dpuf

In order to achieve the voltage necessary to reach the levels of formaldehyde discovered in this study, you would have to overheat your atomizer, burn your coils, and then vape that repeatedly to be exposed.

See more at: http://blog.mtbakervapor.com/the-truth-beh...h.4ti0zua5.dpuf

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