Why not, british know riffled reduce range but still go for it
Challenger doesn't use finned HEAT rounds like M1 Abrams for armor piercing (which has a smoothbore gun) , it uses HESH (High explosive Squash Head) for general and light armor use. That's why it can be used use rifled gun, the penetration of HESH round isn't effected by the rifling spin.
In fact Challenger 2 only carries 3 types of ammunition: APFSDS (for heavy duty armor -piercing), HESH (for general use and against light armor) and white Phosphorus rounds (for smoke geration and target marking). Because of the rifled barrel, The Challenger APFSDS round is encased in a special sabot that spins with the rifling during firing, but keeps the armor-piercing dart itself from spinning.
Challenger 2 Ammunition load types. APFSDS (front), white Phosphorus (on the left) and HESH (behind). The sticks in the center are propellant charges
Also, rifling actually increases the range of the Challenger, a finned round is more susceptible to deviations from crosswinds. Rifling can allow the Challeneger to engage targets up to 4 miles with the HESH.
This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jan 10 2016, 08:37 AM
Indeed, EC725 was for spec ops use but due to aforementioned problems French spec ops switching back to NH90... except EC725 has aerial refuel capability so Frenchies kinda
So now French mainly use EC725 for CSAR which is actually 1 of its main role, Germany and we also use it for CSAR More like resistance towards bullets and splinters eg RPG frag warhead. I'm sure its not for nothing EC725 invest 1 whole ton in armor and missile avoidance systems.
well France army no have EC725, they only have Puma and Cougar. now start replace to NH90。NH90 fully Cabon fiber composite body make advantage in CSAR。 well France Airforce have EC725. there Special Ops have some helicopter also some from AIrforce/Army so depend mission they can use many type helicopter，if needed they can ask from Airforce/Army too.
Empire Comes Back? UK Presses for Larger Military Presence in Asia
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US releases video it says shows Iranian rockets fired near American aircraft carrier
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The 45-second black and white video shot from a Seahawk helicopter reportedly shows “fast inshore attack craft” of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard firing rockets close to the Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier, the USS Bulkeley destroyer, the FS Provence French naval frigate and some commercial ships on December 26. The video was declassified in response to a Freedom of Information Act request.
well France army no have EC725, they only have Puma and Cougar. now start replace to NH90。NH90 fully Cabon fiber composite body make advantage in CSAR。 well France Airforce have EC725. there Special Ops have some helicopter also some from AIrforce/Army so depend mission they can use many type helicopter，if needed they can ask from Airforce/Army too.
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Syrian Army progresses along 4 axes near Marj Al-Sultan Airport in rural Damascus SYRIA
One month after seizing the imperative Marj Al-Sultan Military Airport in the East Ghouta region of rural Damascus, the Syrian Arab Army’s 102nd Brigade and their 416th Regiment of the Republican Guard have advanced across several farms that were formerly under the control of Jaysh Al-Islam (Army of Islam) and Jabhat Al-Nusra (Syrian Al-Qaeda group).
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According to a senior officer from the Syrian Arab Army in Damascus City, the Syrian Armed Forces are advancing at Al-Bilaliyah (east of Marj Al-Sultan), Al-Nashabiyah (northeast of Marj Al-Sultan), Hawash Al-Kharabo (northwest of Marj Al-Sultan), and Qantara (west of Marj Al-Sultan); these villages make up the 4 axes the Syrian Arab Army is advancing at near the Marj Al-Sultan Military Airport.
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Personally i support RMN get NH90 as 6 ASW helicopter and pair with Gowind 。。。 For Army NH90 or AW101 also OK, if wan more bigger can can get Chinook. but many need consideration like Budget, support， operation cost etc。。。
Firstly what's the reasoning in getting NH-90? Does it perform better than Lynx? For helicopters in RMN, passenger capacity is secondary to its ability to perform both ASW and ASuW warfare.
Even in other branch of service, there are more suitable options than NH-90. Personally, I would prefer if the air force to get at least 36 EC-725 while the army gets AW-149 (since it shares logistical line as A-109)
cuz it looks like a pure projectile round, i dun see any way its "guided" or its even a "missile"
It use some sort of embedded vanes to control the flight direction. You notice the small explosion shortly after the projectile was launch. this i think is when the control vanes was deployed. After being propelled out of tank gun, the projectile simply use it's momentum to glide to it's target.
Russian Army Airborne Units Receive New Portable Air Defense Systems
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The Verba MANPADS is ten times more effective in overcoming pyrotechnical glitches that its Igla predecessor, while covering a range two and a half times greater.
Personally i support RMN get NH90 as 6 ASW helicopter and pair with Gowind 。。。 For Army NH90 or AW101 also OK, if wan more bigger can can get Chinook. but many need consideration like Budget, support， operation cost etc。。。
For army AW101 much cheaper plus slightly bigger, but last time correct me if im wrong i heard the reason the airforce chose EC725 over AW101 was due to Agusta bad support for army
Navy seeing one of world’s best submarine hunter helicopters in service
January 10, 2016 Caleb Velasquez
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The government is now conducting background check to determine the capability of the manufacturer to deliver the equipment on time and comply with the specifications requested by the contracting party. AgustaWestland was selected by the DND as the possible supplier of its two ASW helicopters late in 2015.
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According to a defense market analysts, AW159’s SELEX Galileo Seaspray 7000E active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, sonar system, electro-optical device, ESM and countermeasure systems make it one of the best ASW helicopter in the world.
The ASW helicopter project is one of the seven military modernization projects which President Benigno S. Aquino III has given DND the green-light to go into a “multi-year contract” last November. Granting of the “multi-year contract” will allow to pursue the military modernization program beyond Aquino’s term, he added. with PNA
Germans ran into trouble with NH90 IINM (sorry they don't use EC725, its Brazil which uses a lot), the ramp was flimsy or something... maybe we have less trouble with Asian-sized troops
Since we're so buddy2 with US now apparently, why not try for Seahawks? As someone said earlier, don't have to buy French everything
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