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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.11, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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post Jan 14 2016, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(kit2 @ Jan 14 2016, 11:12 PM)
no deposit accounts? then open them. it's just a one time effort right?

auto renewal? then dont do auto renewal next time since most people want the promo interest rates. banks like uob and ocbc even allow you to withdraw your fd's online even your fds are set to auto renew.
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that is why i said I recently just opened some SAs with the bank nod.gif on the bolded part, meaning if I have FD with OCBC or UOB with auto renew instruction, upon maturity I can just login to my online account to uplift and deposit it there? hmm.gif Do you happen to know if this is possible with SCB too?

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post Jan 14 2016, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(kit2 @ Jan 14 2016, 10:11 PM)
we are already in the electronic age and people here are still using cheques? smile.gif
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People using chq because his FD placement is very large and exceeds the limit of electronic online fund transfer.
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post Jan 14 2016, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(sandkoh @ Jan 14 2016, 08:40 PM)
wat u said is transparent to the person who placed the cheque for fd. the contention is his statement below:

As long as use banker's cheque, your FD should start on the day itself. No need to wait like normal cheque.
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QUOTE(Pinnacle1295 @ Jan 14 2016, 09:12 PM)
Your are correct.

However like my case where I did FD placement with HLB using MayBank Banker's Cheque, the deposited amount will only be shown in my online account AFTER the Banker's Cheque are cleared (I was told 2~3 days). However the date remains as the date I deposited the Banker's Cheque.
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I would say as long as interests are given from the date of fd placement. Same case with mine 2 weeks ago at HLBB with a bankers cheque. nod.gif
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post Jan 14 2016, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Jan 14 2016, 11:17 PM)
that is why i said I recently just opened some SAs with the bank  nod.gif  on the bolded part, meaning if I have FD with OCBC or UOB with auto renew instruction, upon maturity I can just login to my online account to uplift and deposit it there?  hmm.gif Do you happen to know if this is possible with SCB too?
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For OCBC, FD placed at the counter, must withdraw at the counter. FD placed online, can withdraw online.

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Jan 14 2016, 11:17 PM)
that is why i said I recently just opened some SAs with the bank  nod.gif  on the bolded part, meaning if I have FD with OCBC or UOB with auto renew instruction, upon maturity I can just login to my online account to uplift and deposit it there?  hmm.gif Do you happen to know if this is possible with SCB too?
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yes, you can with uob and ocbc. login now and look for the withdrawal option.

not sure about scb. anyway that bank is on my bad list after they refuse my money citing money laundering concerns smile.gif)
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post Jan 14 2016, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 14 2016, 11:21 PM)
People using chq because his FD placement is very large and exceeds the limit of electronic online fund transfer.
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do it over the counter then?

if they have such a huge amount of money, they are entitled to priority or private banking and transfer limits should not be an issue.
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post Jan 14 2016, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(kit2 @ Jan 14 2016, 11:34 PM)
do it over the counter then?

if they have such a huge amount of money, they are entitled to priority or private banking and transfer limits should not be an issue.
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For promo FD, most of the time you still need to go to the counter. E banking can't solve this issue.

As for PB status, for security reason, there is still a limit for e fund transfer regardless of banking status. For large amount FD, chq is still more cost effective and convenient.

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post Jan 15 2016, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 14 2016, 11:49 PM)
For promo FD, most of the time you still need to go to the counter. E banking can't solve this issue.
correct. but it can allow us to skip one step, ie the visit to the source/withdrawing bank.

QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 14 2016, 11:49 PM)
As for PB status, for security reason, there is still a limit for e fund transfer regardless of banking status. For large amount FD, chq is still more cost effective and convenient.
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what security reason? otc, ibg limit is 1 million, rentas has no limit afaik. with cheque, many people are confused and worried about clearing time, etc.

btw, remember the funds transfer slips from affin and ambank private that were exposed online? smile.gif

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post Jan 15 2016, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 14 2016, 06:51 PM)
As long as use banker's cheque, your FD should start on the day itself. No need to wait like normal cheque.
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Not true, personal cheques are accepted in UOB and effective the same day
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post Jan 15 2016, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 14 2016, 08:03 PM)
Is not changing topic. Is I really don't know. Cause people tell me cheques need few days to clear. But banker's cheque is instant. I thought banks treat personal cheque (like the type you write and sign/some print) different from banker's cheque? Personal cheque should be more stringent compare to banker's cheque. No?

My question on the scenario is still not answered. So I am right or wrong in the above scenario? rclxub.gif

I have never received a cheque before nor have I wrote a cheque before.

And yygo Since you know so much, teach me la. I really don't know this cheque stuff or you just NATO? laugh.gif
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Please dont answer people's question with hearsay. Not sure or personnally not experienced it yourself, try count 1 to 1000 and let other answer.


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post Jan 15 2016, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(kit2 @ Jan 15 2016, 12:01 AM)
correct. but it can allow us to skip one step, ie the visit to the source/withdrawing bank.
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As said, the contention is why ppl use chq, online banking cater for smaller amount FD placement. Ppl use chq because online banking has daily limit.

QUOTE(kit2 @ Jan 15 2016, 12:01 AM)
what security reason? otc, ibg limit is 1 million, rentas has no limit afaik. with cheque, many people are confused and worried about clearing time, etc.

btw, remember the funds transfer slips from affin and ambank private that were exposed online? smile.gif
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If you want to do OTC IBG, RENTAS, you need to go to counter and it defeat your intention to "skip one step".
OTC IBG and RENTAS have vague fresh fund policy. Chq is clear cut fresh fund.
Chq FD placement gets immediate FD commencement upon presentation of chq before 4pm cut-off time.
Chq clearing time has no bearing to FD commencement date. The FD commencement date is either before 4pm cut-off time or after 4pm cut-off time. If after 4pm cut-off time, FD commence next business day.

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 15 2016, 12:33 AM)
As said, the contention is why ppl use chq, online banking cater for smaller amount FD placement. Ppl use chq because online banking has daily limit.
If you want to do OTC IBG, RENTAS, you need to go to counter and it defeat your intention to "skip one step".
OTC IBG and RENTAS have vague fresh fund policy. Chq is clear cut fresh fund.
Chq FD placement gets immediate FD commencement upon presentation of chq before 4pm cut-off time.
Chq clearing time has no bearing to FD commencement date. The FD commencement date is either before 4pm cut-off time or after 4pm cut-off time. If after 4pm cut-off time, FD commence next business day.
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A couple years back, i did IBG OTC at Ocbc and was told over the limit and has to split into two days, not sure about the limit now. You are correct to use BC when there is a limit. The other reason I use BC too is because I dont have the saving and I dont intent to open one because too many SA. Ocbc, RHB, Cit, Public, Am, HL, HSBC....just closed Std Chart SA
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 14 2016, 11:21 PM)
People using chq because his FD placement is very large and exceeds the limit of electronic online fund transfer.
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Actually the limit of electronic online FT can be very big. If I am not wrong, it is RM 1million a day. But in order to open more limit in the IBG, one will need to go over the counter and request for it.. (Something like changing ur IBG limit)

Another option for those with real big funds.. Yea, am talking real real big.

You can opt to open a enterprise solely for fund transfer purposes.
With that enterprise, you can open a company current account.
Why enterprise, not sdn bhd or others.. It is because enterprise only u control, no 2 or more persons. And no need file audit and other bla bla.. So is save cost.

The online IBG limit for company current account is RM 10 million a day.. (I guess this amount is good enough for most?)

And yea, i am using online company current account for real large transfer biggrin.gif Handy, cheap, safe and easy

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post Jan 15 2016, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(kit2 @ Jan 14 2016, 10:47 PM)
many banks now offer 50k. if you have much bigger sum, go to bank counter to initiate the transfer and limits will be much higher too. then you don't have to worry about clearing date, bankers or personal, public holiday, etc.
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Which banks offer 50K IGB on personal account?
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post Jan 15 2016, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 15 2016, 12:33 AM)
As said, the contention is why ppl use chq, online banking cater for smaller amount FD placement. Ppl use chq because online banking has daily limit.
if your sum is huge, then you should get pb treatment.

QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 15 2016, 12:33 AM)
If you want to do OTC IBG, RENTAS, you need to go to counter and it defeat your intention to "skip one step".
OTC IBG and RENTAS have vague fresh fund policy. Chq is clear cut fresh fund.
Chq FD placement gets immediate FD commencement upon presentation of chq before 4pm cut-off time.
Chq clearing time has no bearing to FD commencement date. The FD commencement date is either before 4pm cut-off time or after 4pm cut-off time. If after 4pm cut-off time, FD commence next business day.
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after reading from earlier postings, it seems not all banks have clear policy on commencement date for cheque placement.

better banks like hlb, uob, ocbc, hsbc, clearly define incoming fund transfers as fresh funds.
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QUOTE(nitehawk @ Jan 15 2016, 01:20 AM)
Which banks offer 50K IGB on personal account?
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check the ibg/ibft thread.
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jan 15 2016, 01:04 AM)
Actually the limit of electronic online FT can be very big. If I am not wrong, it is RM 1million a day. But in order to open more limit in the IBG, one will need to go over the counter and request for it.. (Something like changing ur IBG limit)

Another option for those with real big funds.. Yea, am talking real real big.

The online IBG limit for company current account is RM 10 million a day.. (I guess this amount is good enough for most?)

And yea, i am using online company current account for real large transfer biggrin.gif Handy, cheap, safe and easy
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wow awesome!

limits are enforced by banks themselves, not by meps or bank negara. they can be increased depending on what level you are.
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QUOTE(gsc @ Jan 15 2016, 12:58 AM)
A couple years back, i did IBG OTC at Ocbc and was told over the limit and has to split into two days, not sure about the limit now. You are correct to use BC when there is a limit. The other reason I use BC too is because I dont have the saving and I dont intent to open one because too many SA. Ocbc, RHB, Cit, Public, Am, HL, HSBC....just closed Std Chart SA
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To exceed the daily limit of OTC IBG of one bank I know is RM500k brows.gif
Yes. Need SA from both ends in order for e banking to work. Hence the chq.

QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Jan 15 2016, 01:04 AM)
Actually the limit of electronic online FT can be very big. If I am not wrong, it is RM 1million a day. But in order to open more limit in the IBG, one will need to go over the counter and request for it.. (Something like changing ur IBG limit)

Another option for those with real big funds.. Yea, am talking real real big.

You can opt to open a enterprise solely for fund transfer purposes.
With that enterprise, you can open a company current account.
Why enterprise, not sdn bhd or others.. It is because enterprise only u control, no 2 or more persons. And no need file audit and other bla bla.. So is save cost.

The online IBG limit for company current account is RM 10 million a day.. (I guess this amount is good enough for most?)

And yea, i am using online company current account for real large transfer biggrin.gif Handy, cheap, safe and easy
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No doubt about the benefit of electronic fund transfer. I prefer e banking too. But chasing promo FD from bank to bank is not as simple as fund transfer to any 3rd party account leh. Hindrances such as Personal CASA has daily limit, need both ends CASA, need fresh fund, fresh fund must be within x days transfered and diff bank diff policy. That's why ppl still use chq as the most convenient and cost effective mode of payment ( for FD placement).

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QUOTE(kwokwah @ Jan 14 2016, 04:03 PM)
FYI
Latest UOB FD Promo (Fresh Funds)
23-11-15 till 31-1-2016 (subject to sudden change)

3 mths - 4.15%
6 mths - 4.2%
12 mths - 4.4%
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Received message from Ocbc

9 mth 4.15%
15 mth 4.3%

Just need to top up 10k fresh fund onto existing fund.....that is rare from Ocbc
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QUOTE(kit2 @ Jan 15 2016, 01:28 AM)
if your sum is huge, then you should get pb treatment.
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Doesn't matter I get PB or not, ppl still use chq to cater for areas not covered by e banking.

QUOTE(kit2 @ Jan 15 2016, 01:28 AM)
after reading from earlier postings, it seems not all banks have clear policy on commencement date for cheque placement.

better banks like hlb, uob, ocbc, hsbc, clearly define incoming fund transfers as fresh funds.
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HLB, uob, ocbc, RHB, Ambank, SCB, Mbb, Pbb, accept FD placement by chq before 4pm as same day commencement.
As for fresh fund policy, chq payment is clear cut fresh fund for all banks, no need headache reading the individual bank fresh fund transfer policy.



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