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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.11, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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post Dec 14 2015, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 14 2015, 11:36 AM)
Step up or pure FD? If is really pure FD, HL have really outdone themselves. Effective rates for 1 year will be >4.5%!! shocking.gif thumbup.gif first time a chinaman bank being so generous.
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How did you calculate for 1 year is >4.5%.?You cannot x2 the 6 months promo rate and claimed it is more than 4.5% for 12 months FD.



Just came back from HLB and placed 6 months FD at 4.5%. 12 months is 4.2%, this is what the counter guy said. Need to open saving account for bank to credit the monthly interest.


Promo ends either 31 Jan or RM 3.5 b quota is reach.

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post Dec 14 2015, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 14 2015, 02:07 PM)
I still cannot find details info the 4.5% 6 month pure FD as posted.

I don't want go to the bank, only then being told it is a step up.

So anyone who got the info, please share the source of info. Ty.
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Only effective today. Actually I did not plan to place FD but saw the flyer and decided to place it. It is certificate type. I prefer statement based. But only Islamic banking is statement based.

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post Dec 15 2015, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(sandkoh @ Dec 15 2015, 10:15 AM)
unkle fast this time! thumbup.gif

statement based fd, like uob?  hmm.gif islamic banking is statement based? i tot it depends on bank whether fd statement based or not. hmm.gif
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HL bank only
Conventiinal FD is certificate like Public bank, loss certificate charges RM20.
Islamic FD is statement based like Ocbc.

6 %! 4.5% is certificate.

Looking back, Am Bank earlier promo of 4.6% for 2 years has helped Am bank secured the cash they needs. Am bank was fined by BNM RM 53.7 millions.

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...gara/?style=biz
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post Dec 15 2015, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(sandkoh @ Dec 15 2015, 01:45 PM)
bro, student, read the post again/carefully! shakehead.gif  doh.gif
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That green guy does not know the sequence...just like he said 6 months 4.5%, 1 year is more than 4.5%. Some more try o deviate on his original point....yesterday went UOB, banker cheque is 68 sen. Hope he will remember

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post Dec 16 2015, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(nitehawk @ Dec 16 2015, 08:58 AM)
It is very difficult to get bank cheque from UOB. I almost shouted at the bank officer in order to get bank cheque and it cost more than 68 cents (II can't remember the exact amount). Some says different branch charge different rate.

Which branch charges 68 cents?
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No problem to get BC from UOB Penang. The teller not even informed me, straight away deduct 68 sen from the BC. Brought the BC to HL bank and top up with 68 sen so that the FD amount is rounded up.

Dislike UOB service, must first fill up form by customer service then take number proceed to casher counter. They should just hire clerks to fill in the form instead of hiring the customer service staffs. ....already said no leng lui in Ocbc, some more assigned a batang RM

I think you may not have known that the counter tellers cannot process BC request unless the form is filled up by the customer service "clerk"

To those need 68 sen proof, can show the image to them

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post Dec 16 2015, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 15 2015, 11:18 PM)
Fd joke

Mr K : i want to place fd. Got wad promo now?
Staff : sir, the promo now is 4.5%, min placement is 10k for 1 year.

Mr K: hmm.. can i get slightly higher if i place big fund, say rm 2m
Staff : sir, cannot oo. This is promo rate very good already.
Mr K : cannot help me ask manager see see meh ? 4.53 i also happy one.
Staff : cannot la sir

Mr K : like this ah. Help me place 200 FD certs of 10k la..

Staff : hang on, i check with my manager

3 minutes later

Staff : ok la sir, my manager say giv u 4.52.. let u happy a bit.

Hehehehe
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Two millions cash invest in properties will get much more return than the extra 0.02% FD interest
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post Dec 17 2015, 02:54 AM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Dec 16 2015, 04:45 PM)
CB online has option to SMS when new fund received in acct. It would SMS me when new fund received. This is GREAT as when the funds are received
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How to activate the sms option....does this apply to all accounts ...it is a very useful feature.....

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post Dec 17 2015, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 17 2015, 12:36 PM)
I just called OCBC, these 5.1% for 6 months or 5.5% for 3 months deals
need to buy insurance or investment products..
No free lunch in the world lah..  sad.gif

OCBC Customer Service Leng Lui, took this picture few days ago..
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It is good effort of you to find out the truth. Either these green guys just listen half or they are from Ocbc and trying to get people PM them for more info.

You can take picture inside bank?
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post Dec 17 2015, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 17 2015, 01:16 PM)
Received a call from SCB RM and offered a bond:

Product name: Bond Paper
Tenure: 2 Years
Return: 5.5% return is guaranteed
Principal: Minimum RM 250K, principal is guaranteed
Risk: Only if Standard Chartered bankrupt or close down

Can consider this or not?? hmm.gif
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Return 5.5% is the minimum or the most can get.
Every thing is guaratee sounds good. But the sifu is correct. Need to know the issuing party and past performance trend. invested on Public bank Templeton fund, only guarantee the principal.

Normal FD need to offer about 5.4% with compounded interest then only can slight match this bond paper. Fill up EPF quota first before considering this option.

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post Dec 17 2015, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Dec 17 2015, 06:32 PM)
You have Citibank account also ?

It is under Services, My Profile, Citialerts, Manage Alerts. I guess they don't differentiate if one is Citigold or not for the online account. Try it and see. biggrin.gif
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Thanks will try latter. . Most of the time using phone banking. This feature very useful to monitor incoming fund
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post Dec 18 2015, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 17 2015, 09:45 PM)
Tats why i say u will think i bs you.. but i betul belum even 30.. laugh.gif

Ok. We sidebet 6%

If 2016 got 6%, then how ? Haha
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Central bank in every country manages the economy through monetary policy to control the money supply in the market. The basic tool used by central bank is through the interest rate. Increase interest rate when there is too much money in the market during the inflation and decrease interest rate when recession to stimulate the economic growth.
However during global financial crisis, in USA, the interest rate is zero percent and hence the conventional monetary policy of playing with interest rate is not effective. QE, quantitative easing policy was used. With confirmed economic growth, FED then only announced increase in the rate.

Domestic wise
Malaysia inflationrate is affected by the GST implemented in April and it has caused a cost push inflation. The ringgit has depreciated and it has increased the cost of input material imported from overseas. Again confirming a cost push inflation scenerio. People will be conservative in spending as future outlook is weak. Rightly, the interest rate should be reduced to encourage more spending.

Internationally, USA as expected raised the rate and this will affect the money supply in Malaysia market. With RM depreciation and US interest rates on the uptrend, the money may flow out of the country, increase the money supply. Interestingly China has offer to buy the Bond from Malaysia. If this is true the money supply through selling the bond to China will increaseve money supply

Oil prices outlook is on the down trend and Petronas has made a loss. This will affect government fiscal policy on spending. Budget 2016 - almost 80% income will be spent on the administration and sustaining. Very little left for spending to stimulate economy.

Tan Sri Zeti will retire in April 2016, judging on current BN ministers quality, my personal opinion is no one is more capable than her. The OPR will be decided by bank negara - her successor and the team.

Based on what I have mentioned above, I do not think 1Q next year will have any increase in OPR unless the US rate increase has caused a large out flow and China is not commiting on buying of Bond.

Malaysia GDP dropped last quarter and it has confirmed the country is experîencing slower economy growth. If the trend persists, interest rate will either maintain in 1Q and may even reduce in 2Q.

This is only my personal opinion and other members are welcome to discuss on the economic outlook.

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post Dec 18 2015, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Dec 18 2015, 07:20 AM)
shocking.gif BNM implementing "QE" with china's help?
There'll be 2 meetings in Jan & March before she goes
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QE policy is used only when the interest rate is near zero. Is Malaysia interest rate near zero? No. QE not applicable.

Thanks for the input on MPC meeting next year. Outcome of the meeting can be a decision factor on placement of FD

http://www.bnm.gov.my/?ch=mone&pg=mone_mpc&lang=en

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post Dec 18 2015, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Dec 18 2015, 11:34 AM)
I think if we look at domestic only.. Yeah, when economy down, interest rate should go down to spur more economical activities. When economy up, interest rate should go up to sustain the inflation from blowing over.

Yeah,in my opinion, this is applicable if the world is only Malaysia.

But when it is about global economy, I dun think the interest rate thing is applicable for this. Because Malaysia is not taikor in economy, so I view malaysia as no great power, only can be follower. US hike rate, that will stem out money leaking to US, and currency will be weaker. If they don't defend the currency, many big corporate with usd denominated bond and loan will suffer and break. If they defend, local consumption will struggle..

End up, usually will defend.. haha

All is just my opinion.. biggrin.gif
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Most of the bonds are denominated in RM.

Next Malaysian Government Securities will be due on 15 Jul 2016 (RM11.5b) and 15 Sept 2016 (RM 15.2b).

As mentioned earlier, BNM has to look at domestic economy trends and also global financial trends as Malaysia is part of the global system before determing the OPR. Following US increase the rate will tighten further the weakening economy and move towards recession. The question here will be how soon will BNM react. Anyway, your guess may be correct as it is very difficult to predict domestic and global economy with so many uncertainty in economic, political and the threat of IS.

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post Dec 18 2015, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Dec 18 2015, 02:00 PM)
Ya, save the RM2+ for parking fee, for you guys in KV. But the Pg branch that I normally use is in a bungalow, free parking !  thumbup.gif gsc also use that branch and where we all agreed no leng lui RM (he always disagreed with me on OCBC leng lui RM). tongue.gif
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Let's calibrate our eyeballs. Look at BCC Ocbc leng lui photo, is your leng lui better looking than that?

The gold price has came down but still much higher than before RM depreciated....US interest rate up again, gold will continue going down

Analyst said next year OPR remain in 2016....

http://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-ne...m_content=links

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post Dec 18 2015, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(matow @ Dec 18 2015, 04:50 PM)
After reading the postings here, decided that HLB 4.5% was the FD to get since my SCB 15mth FD matured today. So hurriedly I uplift my SCB FD and proceed to HLB Bkt Tinggi, Klang branch which was near my office. The HLB branch there was quite busy with many people. My turn came and I proceeded to inform the counter girl that I want to place FD on the promotional 4.5% rate for 6 months. The counter girl ask if I have a saving account with the branch, I say no but I do have a a savings account with another branch. She says cannot, I have to open another account with the branch in order for me to place the FD. I need to take another que number to open the account. Got fedup, took my money and proceeded to Affin Bank. There I was greeted like an old friend, attended to immediately by a middle age lady (no leng lui here...sigh) and she proceed to explain to me on the promotional rate of 4.6% where by 20% of it need to be placed in either a 1 month (4.05%), 2 months (4.10%) or 3 months (4.3%) FD while the balance 80% will enjoy the 4.6% pa interest. She advised me to take up the 3 months FD @ 4.3%. After making some rough calculations, the first 3 months interest came out more that than the HLB 4.5% FD (3 months period). After that, I can take the 20% and find other FD to put (hopefully can find a better rate) while the balance 80% can enjoy the 4.6% interest.
I find that the customer service experience at Affin bank so much more better, we are really being treated as customers instead of being treated like livestocks at HLB.
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3 months 4.3% , how could the first 3 months better than the first 3 month of HL 4.5%? For simple compariso using months instead od days.

Assume 100k,
Affin bank

20k x 0.043 x 3/12
80k x 0.046 x 6/12

HL bank
100k x 0.045 x 6/12
Interest is credited monthly

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post Dec 21 2015, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(michaelho @ Dec 21 2015, 02:16 AM)
CIMB and AMBANK FD upliftment at any branch for any amount , as long as IC can be read. PUBLIC BANK interbranch  FD withdrawal possible BUT only up RMxxk (pls refer to PBB branch, I forgot exact amount)
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public bank, account in Penang but I want to withdraw at KL branch. Max is RM10k, I think that was the limit. It happened about 2 years back. I told the teller I need more than that. She said unless Penang branch could verify me and allowed to do so. Called up the assistant manager Penang branch and gratefully he said okay. The teller said it is unusual they allowed me to do that.
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post Dec 21 2015, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Dec 17 2015, 07:18 PM)
By the way, received 2 tickets for Special Screening of Star Wars The Force Awakens from CB for Dec 22nd in Gurney Plaza. Did you receive it ?  biggrin.gif
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No tickets...you got it thru sms or ? Anyway enjoy the show
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post Dec 21 2015, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Dec 15 2015, 08:34 PM)
no discussion on the public bank step up fd promo ?
really that bad ar ?
eyeing the galaxy tab.....biggrin.gif
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Took up Public bank 4 months step up FD at 4.17 % effectively rate. I took this FD last month since I have some money idle for some times. No new fund required.
So far Public bank has a clear print out on the step up interest and it also shows the rate is locked in even though the bank when advertised mentioned rate may changed if OPR changes. See attached photo.

RHB has the worst FD print up on step up promotion. It prints only the first 3 months rate and maturity date after 3 months and cant tell the eventual maturity date which is another 9 months away.


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post Dec 21 2015, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Dec 21 2015, 03:58 PM)
In SCB PB centre, one of the leng lui greeted me with my surname Mr so and so. Not bad. Friendly courteous staff. Have the same experience in Citigold.  biggrin.gif

No interest for FD over non working days on maturity.

Was told that for SCB, the cert we received is just a receipt or statement only. Not needed on maturity. In a way similar to UOB, no need any FD cert, statement, receipt on maturity. Just

Asked about FD maturity on Sat/Sun, was told they pay the interest but the FD has to be on auto renewal. BC or Cashier's Order RM2.80.

So both SCB and OCBC, pay RM2.80 only to get their cheque.  biggrin.gif

Went to HL to place the 6 mths 4.5% monthly interest FD.  biggrin.gif
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Had FD with SCB before, renewed or withdrew before without that small blue background FD paper. Was told do not need those on maturity.

You are one of the lucky Citi Gold customers.

That tall Ocbc PB centre counter girl? Leng lui?

Is there any ruling on not paying interest over non working days? Shall we write a complain letter to BNM?

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post Dec 22 2015, 11:03 AM

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A few months back HL junior saving rate instead of the same as 1 month FD has dropped to 2.5% but HL junior islamic isaving is still maintain at 1 mth FD. Was told yesterday, the islamic also drop to 2%.. Is this true.

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